E92 M3 Competition Pack
Discussion
It's a nice car.
"I only live once" - I would then rather go 997 Turbo with race-derived Mezger boxer 3.6L engine with a manual transmission, it is awd, but when you drive it you realize how rear-biased it is, and taking the front shaft out makes it rwd if that is so important.
Porsche 6-speed manual with factory short throw pack is the best gearbox there is. After manual TTRS the gearbox in 997T is a revelation. Manual in Z4 was not good either.
"I only live once" - I would then rather go 997 Turbo with race-derived Mezger boxer 3.6L engine with a manual transmission, it is awd, but when you drive it you realize how rear-biased it is, and taking the front shaft out makes it rwd if that is so important.
Porsche 6-speed manual with factory short throw pack is the best gearbox there is. After manual TTRS the gearbox in 997T is a revelation. Manual in Z4 was not good either.
I have just bought my M3 after a few Porsches and at the mo still a bit scared of it - which is a good thing.
Don't think that gearbox is that great, and on mine reverse gear is an absolute nightmare sometimes.
But .. it does make a nice noise and once a few niggles are sorted I can't wait to properly get to know it over some nice roads.
Don't think that gearbox is that great, and on mine reverse gear is an absolute nightmare sometimes.
But .. it does make a nice noise and once a few niggles are sorted I can't wait to properly get to know it over some nice roads.
Can't quite believe it, but my car made the front page of Pistonheads and was selected as Readers' Car of the Week. 
Untitled by RS Grant, on Flickr
Untitled by RS Grant, on Flickr
...was out for a meal and got a text from my friend saying 'You're famous' ...my obvious reaction was 'Oh no, what have I done?!' but thankfully he went on to explain what he meant!
To be honest I might not have seen it if he hadn't told me or it'd not been mentioned on here; I try hard to stay away from the home page as I've got a habit of meandering over to the Classifieds, which has ended up quite expensive before!!
But given the number of amazing cars and threads on here, it was a surprise to have my thread picked out! I'm very glad it has though and equally as happy to see how well received my mumblings have been too, I'll keep this updated with my journey with the E92 M3; good, bad or ugly.
Untitled by RS Grant, on FlickrUntitled by RS Grant, on Flickr...was out for a meal and got a text from my friend saying 'You're famous' ...my obvious reaction was 'Oh no, what have I done?!' but thankfully he went on to explain what he meant!
To be honest I might not have seen it if he hadn't told me or it'd not been mentioned on here; I try hard to stay away from the home page as I've got a habit of meandering over to the Classifieds, which has ended up quite expensive before!!
But given the number of amazing cars and threads on here, it was a surprise to have my thread picked out! I'm very glad it has though and equally as happy to see how well received my mumblings have been too, I'll keep this updated with my journey with the E92 M3; good, bad or ugly.
MikeGoodwin said:
Lovely. Which warranty company? The MC I originally wanted was under warranty from warranty wise and after he sold it I messaged to ask his opinion on them. He rated them highly saying he had a fair bit done with no issue.
Actually ignore me you said already. Doh.
Haha no worries Mike.. re: WarrantyWise, I'm sure one of my friends had a policy with them on an E60 M5 Touring and in true E60 M5-fashion, it threw up some fairly hefty bills, all of which I'm sure were covered by his policy; I can check for certain if needs be. Aside from the inspector being called, I cannot fault the warranty that I've got on my car, although I'm unsure what the cost of that was as it came with the car.Actually ignore me you said already. Doh.
Once I come towards the end of this years cover, I'll see how much it will cost to continue with my current provider but I may end up biting the bullet and shelling out for the BMW Insured warranty given that it's a comprehensive, no quibble, in-house job.
1974foggy said:
Lovely car and stunning countryside, hope to trundle up in my e46 m3 someday soon.
Ill be packing my camera as well having seen the inspirational images here!
Thank you, you'll not be disappointed if you make the trip.. I loved taking my old E46 M3 on the same roads.Ill be packing my camera as well having seen the inspirational images here!
999090_10151596811948918_655254154_n by RS Grant, on Flickrapm142001 said:
Lovely car, much cleaner and more elegant than the F80/82 (not to mention a more interesting engine), and looks like you've got one of the best ones about.
Great pictures too, the Forth Bridge ones a particular favourite!
I agree about the F8* cars, they are considerably quicker (in the correct conditions!) due to the turbos and huge increase in mid range ability, but I find them less satisfying to drive quickly than the E9* cars. Looks are a personal thing, I love an F80 mainly due to the comedy rear arches but I'm a bit indifferent about the F82 overall.Great pictures too, the Forth Bridge ones a particular favourite!
FRB pictures are something I've been wanting to do for a long, long time so I'm glad I finally got it out of my system. They're also a favourite of mine, so I'm planning to see if they are good enough quality to 'blow up' so I can get one framed.
domtheone said:
Great thread. Enjoyed reading that.
Gorgeous looking car too. One day....
Gorgeous looking car too. One day....
cuda said:
Lovely indeed. A front lip/splitter would make it perfect...
ZX10R NIN said:
Nice car & +1 to the above.
Thanks, unsure about a splitter.. I've always liked the small carbon corners on an E92 M3, so unless they meet a grizzly end then I don't think I'd change them.SiT said:
Loving reading this and you made PH homepage!! Congratulations!
I am glad the faults have been rectified seamlessly for you, my previous mention of filling my performance gap later on in the year may have been brought forward a touch, thanks in the most part to this thread!!!!
Keep it up.
Si
No point putting these things off Si... I am glad the faults have been rectified seamlessly for you, my previous mention of filling my performance gap later on in the year may have been brought forward a touch, thanks in the most part to this thread!!!!
Keep it up.
Si
Avus Blue said:
This has really been my week on PH! First a 106 Rallye thread (had a black S1 for 4 years and loved every minute of it!) and now a bit of M3 love. I had an E36 3 litre for 10 years, great car but was starting to lose the battle against the rot and I don't have a garage that I could've retired it to as a toy so it had to go. I love E46 M3's but felt they were a bit too similar to what I already had, plus I'd lusted after the E92 M3 since I first saw and heard them. After a bit of man maths I decided I could afford it and took the plunge nearly 3.5 years ago. Bought used from Sytner Newport. Jerez Black with Fox red leather, manual box and non EDC dampers, style 220's and a few other options ticked. I've done a few little bits to it over the past 3 years. As an early 57 plate one the kidney grills were all chrome, surrounds and slats and it made the front look a bit toothy so they were swapped out for a set of genuine BMW gloss black ones. I wanted the side gills to match but BMW wouldn't sell them to me as I don't have the right chassis number! Ended up buying some carbon ones with a weave to match the roof. The carbon is good, but fitting was a bit of an ordeal and took some fettling to get them sitting right. I wanted the bonnet vent surrounds to match but after the experience with the gills I bought some genuine ones unpainted from BMW and had them carbon dipped, cost half as much as aftermarket carbon, fit perfectly and unless you look closely you cant tell they aren't carbon. I had the BMW performance rear spoiler fitted last year and I'm really happy with the improvement. Not cheap but definitely quality. Corner splitters are next and possibly mirror caps, will be going for the BMW ones as the fit and finish is so much better than the aftermarket stuff.
The OP mentions an exhaust upgrade. I've got a Remus "wolf inside" cat back on mine, with gloss black and carbon tips and I love it. Nice tone without being boomy or droning, came in at around £1400 with the tips I chose. The other engine upgrade I've done is a BMC filter and this again makes a lovely noise, much deeper induction noise than standard. The two together have made a noticeable improvement to engine pick up. It gets through the lower part of the rev range so much quicker now. Not really more power, but definitely more response. Another trick I found is in the M settings you can set the throttle response to sport as soon as the key is in. I've then got it set for sport + on the M button. In "normal" I found the throttle response to be a bit mushy. They do lack a little bit of low down torque, but if you're prepared to rev them out it more than makes up for it at the top end. 6K to the redline is epic, and never fails to put a smile on my face.
Interesting post, I assume that BMW wouldn't sell them to you because your car wasn't one of the later LE models that came with gloss black gills? That seems a bit ridiculous, I knew they were a bit precious about genuine E46 CSL parts, but hadn't realised that they were the same way with small E92 bits like that. I was hoping to replace my sides with gloss black gills to match the current front grills, but may have to look somewhere other than OE now.The OP mentions an exhaust upgrade. I've got a Remus "wolf inside" cat back on mine, with gloss black and carbon tips and I love it. Nice tone without being boomy or droning, came in at around £1400 with the tips I chose. The other engine upgrade I've done is a BMC filter and this again makes a lovely noise, much deeper induction noise than standard. The two together have made a noticeable improvement to engine pick up. It gets through the lower part of the rev range so much quicker now. Not really more power, but definitely more response. Another trick I found is in the M settings you can set the throttle response to sport as soon as the key is in. I've then got it set for sport + on the M button. In "normal" I found the throttle response to be a bit mushy. They do lack a little bit of low down torque, but if you're prepared to rev them out it more than makes up for it at the top end. 6K to the redline is epic, and never fails to put a smile on my face.
Also appreciate the info regarding the exhaust, I'd been fairly set on Milltek but Remus may be an option too... will have to spend some more time listening to these on YouTube it seems, what a chore?!
A BMC replacement element will also be getting fitted sometime too, for £50-60 it seems silly not to really.
9k rpm said:
Interesting write up and lovely motor. Interesting you managed to find a manual comp pack.
I still miss my DCT one.
Looks good, was that Silverstone? It's a lovely colour if so!I still miss my DCT one.
mike150 said:
...they both look great, Lapiz Blue is a lovely colour on the Golf (which is why it's so popular!) and Melbourne Red is a particular favourite of mine on an E9* shape car. Great taste. pomp1 said:
Brilliant car, I hope you enjoy.
I had one of these a few years ago, it was technically superb - fast and comfy but sadly it did nothing for me. Came out of it into a W204 C63, a completely different animal that whilst was nowhere near as accomplished did more for me.
Sadly that too has been replaced now. Enjoy these larger engined cars whilst you still can....
Yep they are both great cars. I love the noise of the C63 and they are aggressive looking cars, I find them more like sledgehammers with the M3 being a little more like a regular claw hammer; both capable of destruction but the M3 being able to do it with a little more delicacy.I had one of these a few years ago, it was technically superb - fast and comfy but sadly it did nothing for me. Came out of it into a W204 C63, a completely different animal that whilst was nowhere near as accomplished did more for me.
Sadly that too has been replaced now. Enjoy these larger engined cars whilst you still can....
ChawenHalo said:
BMW dealerships are far better than most will give them credit IMO.
Couldn't agree more, I'm sure it varies a little depending on area; but locally we are quite lucky to have one or two dealers who are helpful, polite and don't think they're something special because their cars are worth a little more than the bloke down the street selling/servicing Dacias.Patrick Bateman said:
You're right in my neck of the woods, I'll have to keep an eye out.
Likewise, what am I keeping an eye out for?Ho Lee Kau said:
It's a nice car.
"I only live once" - I would then rather go 997 Turbo with race-derived Mezger boxer 3.6L engine with a manual transmission, it is awd, but when you drive it you realize how rear-biased it is, and taking the front shaft out makes it rwd if that is so important.
Porsche 6-speed manual with factory short throw pack is the best gearbox there is. After manual TTRS the gearbox in 997T is a revelation. Manual in Z4 was not good either.
Sure, if money were no object then something more exotic might join the M3.. funny you mention a 997 Turbo actually because growing up I have always wanted a 911 Turbo; 993, 996, 997... but now I'm old enough to appreciate/want more than all out pace, I don't think I'd buy one! I still love 911s, but I think now it'd be a 911 GT3 that I'd be buying rather than a Turbo."I only live once" - I would then rather go 997 Turbo with race-derived Mezger boxer 3.6L engine with a manual transmission, it is awd, but when you drive it you realize how rear-biased it is, and taking the front shaft out makes it rwd if that is so important.
Porsche 6-speed manual with factory short throw pack is the best gearbox there is. After manual TTRS the gearbox in 997T is a revelation. Manual in Z4 was not good either.
Taking the shafts out of a 997 Turbo is quite a ballsy move too, not something I'd be comfortable doing!!
Ursicles said:
I have just bought my M3 after a few Porsches and at the mo still a bit scared of it - which is a good thing.
Don't think that gearbox is that great, and on mine reverse gear is an absolute nightmare sometimes.
But .. it does make a nice noise and once a few niggles are sorted I can't wait to properly get to know it over some nice roads.
I'm not surprised to hear that the gearbox isn't on the same level as something like a Porsche, it's not even as good as the manual gearbox in the VW Golf that I had before. However there are things which you can do to improve it, an F10 M5 gearknob is a common modification but if you need to go further then you can order an AS Short Shift kit which reduces the throw by various difference percentages.Don't think that gearbox is that great, and on mine reverse gear is an absolute nightmare sometimes.
But .. it does make a nice noise and once a few niggles are sorted I can't wait to properly get to know it over some nice roads.
Fingers crossed you get your niggles sorted out though, I think they're great cars to be in and string a few bends together on a flowing back road.
Fantastic write up that I’ve read from start to finish. I made a similar move to yourself, I went from an Audi RS3 to the E92 M3. The Audi was a good car and had some real tricks up it’s sleave that it did well, and in some situations would blow the M3 out of the water. For me though driving is largely down to the experience, and that’s where the M3 is miles ahead. You have to be switched on, assessing, evaluating the road conditions, weather every second when making progress in the M3. It makes you feel alive, have a purpose rather than being a passenger. Every time I get out of the M3 I feel fresher than when I stepped into it. At the age of 30 and having crossed the motoring spectrum in terms of how the power is put onto tarmac, I can quite easily say that nothing is more enjoyable that finding yourself on an empty country road, in a RWD V8. Gorgeous car and I really love the colour (apart from the seats but that’s mainly because I’m a City fan 🤣). Exhaust mod I would recommend 100%. Contact PCW Exhausts he has done hundreds of these and cost between £200-400 depending on what you require.
Rick
Rick
RS Grant said:
Avus Blue said:
This has really been my week on PH! First a 106 Rallye thread (had a black S1 for 4 years and loved every minute of it!) and now a bit of M3 love. I had an E36 3 litre for 10 years, great car but was starting to lose the battle against the rot and I don't have a garage that I could've retired it to as a toy so it had to go. I love E46 M3's but felt they were a bit too similar to what I already had, plus I'd lusted after the E92 M3 since I first saw and heard them. After a bit of man maths I decided I could afford it and took the plunge nearly 3.5 years ago. Bought used from Sytner Newport. Jerez Black with Fox red leather, manual box and non EDC dampers, style 220's and a few other options ticked. I've done a few little bits to it over the past 3 years. As an early 57 plate one the kidney grills were all chrome, surrounds and slats and it made the front look a bit toothy so they were swapped out for a set of genuine BMW gloss black ones. I wanted the side gills to match but BMW wouldn't sell them to me as I don't have the right chassis number! Ended up buying some carbon ones with a weave to match the roof. The carbon is good, but fitting was a bit of an ordeal and took some fettling to get them sitting right. I wanted the bonnet vent surrounds to match but after the experience with the gills I bought some genuine ones unpainted from BMW and had them carbon dipped, cost half as much as aftermarket carbon, fit perfectly and unless you look closely you cant tell they aren't carbon. I had the BMW performance rear spoiler fitted last year and I'm really happy with the improvement. Not cheap but definitely quality. Corner splitters are next and possibly mirror caps, will be going for the BMW ones as the fit and finish is so much better than the aftermarket stuff.
The OP mentions an exhaust upgrade. I've got a Remus "wolf inside" cat back on mine, with gloss black and carbon tips and I love it. Nice tone without being boomy or droning, came in at around £1400 with the tips I chose. The other engine upgrade I've done is a BMC filter and this again makes a lovely noise, much deeper induction noise than standard. The two together have made a noticeable improvement to engine pick up. It gets through the lower part of the rev range so much quicker now. Not really more power, but definitely more response. Another trick I found is in the M settings you can set the throttle response to sport as soon as the key is in. I've then got it set for sport + on the M button. In "normal" I found the throttle response to be a bit mushy. They do lack a little bit of low down torque, but if you're prepared to rev them out it more than makes up for it at the top end. 6K to the redline is epic, and never fails to put a smile on my face.
Interesting post, I assume that BMW wouldn't sell them to you because your car wasn't one of the later LE models that came with gloss black gills? That seems a bit ridiculous, I knew they were a bit precious about genuine E46 CSL parts, but hadn't realised that they were the same way with small E92 bits like that. I was hoping to replace my sides with gloss black gills to match the current front grills, but may have to look somewhere other than OE now.The OP mentions an exhaust upgrade. I've got a Remus "wolf inside" cat back on mine, with gloss black and carbon tips and I love it. Nice tone without being boomy or droning, came in at around £1400 with the tips I chose. The other engine upgrade I've done is a BMC filter and this again makes a lovely noise, much deeper induction noise than standard. The two together have made a noticeable improvement to engine pick up. It gets through the lower part of the rev range so much quicker now. Not really more power, but definitely more response. Another trick I found is in the M settings you can set the throttle response to sport as soon as the key is in. I've then got it set for sport + on the M button. In "normal" I found the throttle response to be a bit mushy. They do lack a little bit of low down torque, but if you're prepared to rev them out it more than makes up for it at the top end. 6K to the redline is epic, and never fails to put a smile on my face.
Also appreciate the info regarding the exhaust, I'd been fairly set on Milltek but Remus may be an option too... will have to spend some more time listening to these on YouTube it seems, what a chore?!
A BMC replacement element will also be getting fitted sometime too, for £50-60 it seems silly not to really.
As for the exhaust, Miltek stuff is good, my mate with the B6 S4 has one on there. Its quite a bit louder than mine though. One thing I really like about the Remus one is that is does away with the big, ugly transverse box that hangs down under the bumper and has two smaller longitudinal mounted boxes instead which looks a lot neater IMO. I cant remember what the Miltek system is like, I did look at them before I bought the Remus and from memory it was a bit cheaper than the Remus too.
TheAngryDog said:
Lovely looking car. This is helping me make my mind up between an M3 and an S4...
As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
Which shape S4 are you thinking of getting? My mate has a B6 saloon with a manual box. Its got a cat back Miltek system on there and an AMD map, a dyno run he found in the service history showed it making about 370 bhp. It goes nicely enough, and the low down torque is better than my M3, but it doesn't pull as hard further up the range and it doesn't handle as nicely as the M3 either and on our North Wales trip I could pull away from it every time we opened them up together. It's a lot more subtle looking than the M3, especially in silver.As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
It also hasn't been the most reliable car either. It's had a misfire (faulty coil pack), lots of oil leaks, a knackered PCV valve, shot valve stem oil seals and issues with sticking valves in the cooling system and its latest trick now is creaking suspension which after a quick google search seems to be a common issue with upper control arm ball joints. We ended up having to pull the engine out and rebuild it back in August to solve most of the above. At some point in it's past somebody had completely gutted both main and pre cats on it so it was running rich as hell and chucking loads of unburnt fuel down the exhaust. The fumes were enough to give you a serious headache if you were following behind it for a while.
Avus Blue said:
TheAngryDog said:
Lovely looking car. This is helping me make my mind up between an M3 and an S4...
As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
Which shape S4 are you thinking of getting? My mate has a B6 saloon with a manual box. Its got a cat back Miltek system on there and an AMD map, a dyno run he found in the service history showed it making about 370 bhp. It goes nicely enough, and the low down torque is better than my M3, but it doesn't pull as hard further up the range and it doesn't handle as nicely as the M3 either and on our North Wales trip I could pull away from it every time we opened them up together. It's a lot more subtle looking than the M3, especially in silver.As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
It also hasn't been the most reliable car either. It's had a misfire (faulty coil pack), lots of oil leaks, a knackered PCV valve, shot valve stem oil seals and issues with sticking valves in the cooling system and its latest trick now is creaking suspension which after a quick google search seems to be a common issue with upper control arm ball joints. We ended up having to pull the engine out and rebuild it back in August to solve most of the above. At some point in it's past somebody had completely gutted both main and pre cats on it so it was running rich as hell and chucking loads of unburnt fuel down the exhaust. The fumes were enough to give you a serious headache if you were following behind it for a while.
Your M3 looks lovely in that blue, really suits it.
Patrick Bateman said:
Keep an eye out for a red Clio Trophy and a silver 7 series.
Will do! 
RickAudiRS3 said:
Fantastic write up that I’ve read from start to finish. I made a similar move to yourself, I went from an Audi RS3 to the E92 M3. The Audi was a good car and had some real tricks up it’s sleave that it did well, and in some situations would blow the M3 out of the water. For me though driving is largely down to the experience, and that’s where the M3 is miles ahead. You have to be switched on, assessing, evaluating the road conditions, weather every second when making progress in the M3. It makes you feel alive, have a purpose rather than being a passenger. Every time I get out of the M3 I feel fresher than when I stepped into it. At the age of 30 and having crossed the motoring spectrum in terms of how the power is put onto tarmac, I can quite easily say that nothing is more enjoyable that finding yourself on an empty country road, in a RWD V8. Gorgeous car and I really love the colour (apart from the seats but that’s mainly because I’m a City fan ??). Exhaust mod I would recommend 100%. Contact PCW Exhausts he has done hundreds of these and cost between £200-400 depending on what you require.
Rick
Totally agree with that, including the exhaust mod! There's a guy locally trading in his E92 and he is taking bits off his car beforehand, one of those bits would be the exhaust with 2-pipe mod.. so given that mine is standard then a switch could happen if the planets align and we are able to meet somewhere before his trade in date and have them changed over, not before time either, cannot wait to unlock some V8 burble from it!! Rick
9k rpm said:
RS Grant said:
Looks good, was that Silverstone? It's a lovely colour if so.
Yes it’s Silverstone II metallic. Looks nice in different light. Tempted to get an M4 in the same. TheAngryDog said:
Lovely looking car. This is helping me make my mind up between an M3 and an S4...
As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
Two pretty different beasts, the S4 is the more practical choice and likely to cost less to run I'd assume. However, personally it's just a quick A4 to me, more of a competitor to a 335i/340i with the RS4 being more on the M3 level of occasion and performance... that said, with a few small modifications to a B8 S4 then an E9* M3 probably couldn't live with it in a straight line!! They are very tuneable cars, I had a run against a guy who has a facelift B8 S4 running c450bhp (from memory!) in an F80 M3 and pulled out a few car lengths on him.. but as I've said before, I think an F8* is a faster car than an E9* model so expect that margin to be reversed should I repeat the run in my car.As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
Yeah I used to frequent PF for hours at a time 'back in the day' however it's a changed place now, I lurk on and off occasionally but there's not much being posted to keep an eye on anymore.. the great Photobucket shafting has also destroyed so many good restoration threads on there too. It's a shame because that forum used to be extremely busy and a good laugh a few years ago.
Avus Blue said:
It was exactly that. I was trying to order online, and they came back saying that my car wasn't fitted with those parts so I couldn't have them. I might have been able to if I'd gone to Sytner Newport or Trainer in Swansea and spoken to the parts guys direct as I know a few of them through the BMW car club but I didn't bother trying after the email I had back. If you get no joy with your local dealer then they are available through Turner Motorsport in the USA, and even with shipping its cheaper than what BMW charge here. I did try and order a set but my bank thought it was a fraudulent payment request and blocked it! So I bought the carbon ones instead. The original ones are a pig to get out of the wings too, I read online that you have to squeeze them a bit, and then rotate the bottom out but it really isn't that easy! I thought the wing was coming off before they were!
As for the exhaust, Miltek stuff is good, my mate with the B6 S4 has one on there. Its quite a bit louder than mine though. One thing I really like about the Remus one is that is does away with the big, ugly transverse box that hangs down under the bumper and has two smaller longitudinal mounted boxes instead which looks a lot neater IMO. I cant remember what the Miltek system is like, I did look at them before I bought the Remus and from memory it was a bit cheaper than the Remus too.
Yeah, the Milltek system is around £1100 on t'internet but have got a friend who is a Milltek supplier doing me a little better than that, so it works out a fair bit different to a Remus and in a completely different league to even a used Akrapovic system, which whenever I've seen them are £2500 or more. As for the exhaust, Miltek stuff is good, my mate with the B6 S4 has one on there. Its quite a bit louder than mine though. One thing I really like about the Remus one is that is does away with the big, ugly transverse box that hangs down under the bumper and has two smaller longitudinal mounted boxes instead which looks a lot neater IMO. I cant remember what the Miltek system is like, I did look at them before I bought the Remus and from memory it was a bit cheaper than the Remus too.
...not sure I could bring myself to pay that for some pipework?! Can only find 'Remus Race' and 'Remus Sport' clips on YouTube rather than the 'Wolf Inside' systems when I looked, but maybe a little more investigation will turn something up.. this was the official Remus video, which does make it sound pretty good to be fair, although I'd prefer the straight tips like you have since they are more OEM looking compared to the angled tips in the video.
Remus YouTube Video
TheAngryDog said:
Lovely looking car. This is helping me make my mind up between an M3 and an S4...
As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
As a side note, I recognise your user name from passionford days.
RS Grant said:
Two pretty different beasts, the S4 is the more practical choice and likely to cost less to run I'd assume. However, personally it's just a quick A4 to me, more of a competitor to a 335i/340i with the RS4 being more on the M3 level of occasion and performance... that said, with a few small modifications to a B8 S4 then an E9* M3 probably couldn't live with it in a straight line!! They are very tuneable cars, I had a run against a guy who has a facelift B8 S4 running c450bhp (from memory!) in an F80 M3 and pulled out a few car lengths on him.. but as I've said before, I think an F8* is a faster car than an E9* model so expect that margin to be reversed should I repeat the run in my car.
Yeah I used to frequent PF for hours at a time 'back in the day' however it's a changed place now, I lurk on and off occasionally but there's not much being posted to keep an eye on anymore.. the great Photobucket shafting has also destroyed so many good restoration threads on there too. It's a shame because that forum used to be extremely busy and a good laugh a few years ago.
That is my thinking, a modified S4 will pull away from an M3, but an M3 revs to 8400 rpm, and that sounds like fun. Plus it's a V8, looks better, correct wheel drive etc. As you say, the M3 is the top dog and the S4 isn't really comparable. The M3 is currently top for me at the moment. Yeah I used to frequent PF for hours at a time 'back in the day' however it's a changed place now, I lurk on and off occasionally but there's not much being posted to keep an eye on anymore.. the great Photobucket shafting has also destroyed so many good restoration threads on there too. It's a shame because that forum used to be extremely busy and a good laugh a few years ago.
I haven't used pf since I sold my Cossie in 2006. I noticed it starting to drop around that time unfortunately. I was SapphyMike on there (or sappymike as lambchops would type lol)
TheAngryDog said:
I'm considering the b8 with the supercharged 3 litre.
Your M3 looks lovely in that blue, really suits it.
My M3 is the black one above! It does go a bit blue when in sunlight, there is a bit of a pearl effect to the paint like the old carbon black used to be on the E46's. My user name is from when I had my E36 M3, just never bothered to change it when I changed the car.Your M3 looks lovely in that blue, really suits it.
RS Grant said:
Yeah, the Milltek system is around £1100 on t'internet but have got a friend who is a Milltek supplier doing me a little better than that, so it works out a fair bit different to a Remus and in a completely different league to even a used Akrapovic system, which whenever I've seen them are £2500 or more. ...not sure I could bring myself to pay that for some pipework?!
Can only find 'Remus Race' and 'Remus Sport' clips on YouTube rather than the 'Wolf Inside' systems when I looked, but maybe a little more investigation will turn something up.. this was the official Remus video, which does make it sound pretty good to be fair, although I'd prefer the straight tips like you have since they are more OEM looking compared to the angled tips in the video.
Remus YouTube Video
I could be wrong on the wolf inside bit, maybe it was the sport system I have. Seem to remember the boxes it came in had the wolf logos on so maybe I've got it a bit mixed up. Either way it's a big improvement over standard in terms of flow and noise. The bends on it are a lot better and less restrictive than the standard one, some of the pipes are almost triangular on the standard one and quite pinched in places. It also weighs a ton, couldn't believe how heavy it was when we dragged it out from under the car. The akrapovic stuff is nice, but it was working out nearly £3k with vat and delivery and I couldn't justify that to myself. I had the Remus, rear spoiler and wheels for that price! ...not sure I could bring myself to pay that for some pipework?! Can only find 'Remus Race' and 'Remus Sport' clips on YouTube rather than the 'Wolf Inside' systems when I looked, but maybe a little more investigation will turn something up.. this was the official Remus video, which does make it sound pretty good to be fair, although I'd prefer the straight tips like you have since they are more OEM looking compared to the angled tips in the video.
Remus YouTube Video
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