Fiesta ST stage 3 build

[Leicester Loyal]

WCZ said:

the mp215 kit isn't great imo, I switched to cp2 after a couple of years and it's a big improvement. the short shift kit is nice too. both are mods that when fitted I thought 'this is how the car should have came'

Which short shift kit did you go for mate?

Sorry for hijacking the thread OP, looking forward to your updates in the next few days.

[Westyrs]

Dylanaledhall said:

Ah nice, always liked the mk1 my dad has a Mk3 and I'm trying to persuade him to put a map on it

Get it done!

[Dylanaledhall]

Westyrs said:

Get it done!

Trust me I'm trying

[WCZ]

Leicester Loyal said:

Which short shift kit did you go for mate?

Sorry for hijacking the thread OP, looking forward to your updates in the next few days.

the mountune one, you won't regret it!

[Dylanaledhall]

So guys a bit of an update. Dropped the car off this morning to get the Stage 2 collins map and the parts fitted. I'll let you know shortly how everything goes.

[Dylanaledhall]

So I've finally got the car back. What a difference in power, definitely feeling better both bottom end and top end of the rev range. The Milltek is sounding nice and with the sports cat is allowing some lovely pops on the overrun at around 5 thousand revs. To be honest, the Milltek isn't known for being loud but the pops are insanely loud. Can't image what it would sound like with a decat and a 3" cobra system.
Unfortunately I don't have a dyno sheet but will definitely look around to see if anyone in the area is doing any dyno runs then I will show you guys what torque and power we've got.

Next on the list will be the brakes and suspension. But it will need to wait just for me to get more funds.

Thanks guys

[HazzaT]

Dylanaledhall said:

So I've finally got the car back. What a difference in power, definitely feeling better both bottom end and top end of the rev range. The Milltek is sounding nice and with the sports cat is allowing some lovely pops on the overrun at around 5 thousand revs. To be honest, the Milltek isn't known for being loud but the pops are insanely loud. Can't image what it would sound like with a decat and a 3" cobra system.
Unfortunately I don't have a dyno sheet but will definitely look around to see if anyone in the area is doing any dyno runs then I will show you guys what torque and power we've got.

Next on the list will be the brakes and suspension. But it will need to wait just for me to get more funds.

Thanks guys

Nice one! I'm really looking forward to seeing how your project goes. I've got a Revo Stage 1 Mk8 (stage 1 on the Mk8 is roughly equivalent to stage 2 on the Mk7, so 240-250 brake) and it's absolutely fantastic. Mine has the Quaife diff as it's a Perf Pack car, it does still kick the TC light on into 3rd when it's wet but that's more due to the tyres being on their last legs. I'm going for the Ford Performance coilovers and the Revo brake kit as next on the list, I think 250 is the sweet spot for the me power-wise.

300+ will be mental in your Mk7 though! Enjoy lad

[Dylanaledhall]

HazzaT said:

Nice one! I'm really looking forward to seeing how your project goes. I've got a Revo Stage 1 Mk8 (stage 1 on the Mk8 is roughly equivalent to stage 2 on the Mk7, so 240-250 brake) and it's absolutely fantastic. Mine has the Quaife diff as it's a Perf Pack car, it does still kick the TC light on into 3rd when it's wet but that's more due to the tyres being on their last legs. I'm going for the Ford Performance coilovers and the Revo brake kit as next on the list, I think 250 is the sweet spot for the me power-wise.

300+ will be mental in your Mk7 though! Enjoy lad

Thank you so much for reading and I'm really glad you're enjoying the mk8. I actually was very close to buying a Mk8 ST2 and I think it would have been £240 a month with £2000 deposit but for me personally I just preferred the look of the Mk7 although I think the MK8 is a stunning car , especially the interior compared to previous fiestas in my opinion . A diff and brakes are next on my radar just to put the power down a bit easier. Having said that, my tuner said he has a friend who owns a turbo EP3 that's making 750bhp and apparently puts the power down ok providing it's not damp, but he's about £60k deep into that thing
For me I think anything over 300 will de decent enough, on the drive home to me it felt plenty quick and I don't think I'd get bored of the power, but us car guys, always want that bit more each time

[MK1RS Bruce]

Dylanaledhall said:

Thank you so much for reading and I'm really glad you're enjoying the mk8. I actually was very close to buying a Mk8 ST2 and I think it would have been £240 a month with £2000 deposit but for me personally I just preferred the look of the Mk7 although I think the MK8 is a stunning car , especially the interior compared to previous fiestas in my opinion . A diff and brakes are next on my radar just to put the power down a bit easier. Having said that, my tuner said he has a friend who owns a turbo EP3 that's making 750bhp and apparently puts the power down ok providing it's not damp, but he's about £60k deep into that thing
For me I think anything over 300 will de decent enough, on the drive home to me it felt plenty quick and I don't think I'd get bored of the power, but us car guys, always want that bit more each time

Definitely get an ATB diff for it, that will make the biggest difference to the way it drives for sure! I have a mk7 fiesta ST and a MK1 focus RS and the biggest thing I miss on the fiesta is the diff! The brakes aren't bad for what they are in the fiesta and will be fine for the road which is probably all you will need for a while given the current situation. What tyres are you running on it, I have michelin PS4 tyres on the RS and they are also very good for high power FWD.

[griffin dai]

Dylanaledhall said:

So I've finally got the car back. What a difference in power, definitely feeling better both bottom end and top end of the rev range. The Milltek is sounding nice and with the sports cat is allowing some lovely pops on the overrun at around 5 thousand revs. To be honest, the Milltek isn't known for being loud but the pops are insanely loud. Can't image what it would sound like with a decat and a 3" cobra system.
Unfortunately I don't have a dyno sheet but will definitely look around to see if anyone in the area is doing any dyno runs then I will show you guys what torque and power we've got.

Next on the list will be the brakes and suspension. But it will need to wait just for me to get more funds.

Thanks guys

Not hanging about here Dylan!!

What’s the power/torque on their stg2 map?

Agree on the PS4’s they gave TONS of grip, really good.

I went to GotBoost in Bridgend for a RR day I arranged a few years ago, they were ok but struggled to get any traction on the rollers so my run was all over the place.

Another decent place is Indigo GT (Ystrad Mynach)

[Dylanaledhall]

MK1RS Bruce said:

Definitely get an ATB diff for it, that will make the biggest difference to the way it drives for sure! I have a mk7 fiesta ST and a MK1 focus RS and the biggest thing I miss on the fiesta is the diff! The brakes aren't bad for what they are in the fiesta and will be fine for the road which is probably all you will need for a while given the current situation. What tyres are you running on it, I have michelin PS4 tyres on the RS and they are also very good for high power FWD.

Hi, I can't quite remember what tires I have on the rear but I have PS4s on the front. As for a diff I am eager to get one but are so expensive to buy and fit However, if it's worth it and makes the car more drivable I'm a happy boy

[Dylanaledhall]

griffin dai said:

Not hanging about here Dylan!!

What’s the power/torque on their stg2 map?

Agree on the PS4’s they gave TONS of grip, really good.

I went to GotBoost in Bridgend for a RR day I arranged a few years ago, they were ok but struggled to get any traction on the rollers so my run was all over the place.

Another decent place is Indigo GT (Ystrad Mynach)

Hi Dave, nah, definitely not hanging about

Stage 2 maps on these can vary massively. Power can be anywhere from 225 to 255 ( some claim 260 on some dynos but I think the max this turbo can produce is 250) and some people have seen up to 280lb/ft on a stage 2. Not massive numbers but I'd like mine to be around the 240bhp and 250lb/ft. Apparently if I change the actuator I could gain an extra 5bhp but I probably won't bother till a bigger turbo goes on.
Got Boost are literally 5 minutes away from me so I may book it in there. As for indigo GT I believe their dyno is a bit harsh. A guy called Spark Plug Steve that lives in the valleys took his stage 2 ST to Indigo's dyno and only made 227bhp, he then took it to a dyno in Abercynon and made bang on 250bhp. He himself admits it's probably wise to go with 240bhp just so he's roughly in the middle of the two figures I'm definitely not chasing numbers though, I mean the car feels really good at the moment so I'd imagine at around 300+bhp it will feel fairly rapid. Still a long way to go though

[MK1RS Bruce]

Dylanaledhall said:

Hi, I can't quite remember what tires I have on the rear but I have PS4s on the front. As for a diff I am eager to get one but are so expensive to buy and fit However, if it's worth it and makes the car more drivable I'm a happy boy

It all depends on what sort of driving you do with the car, but for b road drives the diff will make more difference than additional power, if its motorway pulls then it probably won't make any difference.

[mooseracer]

Good work A good map on these really transforms them.

For 240ish bhp and road use the standard brakes are fine imo. Looking forward to reading about the next installment!

[Dylanaledhall]

MK1RS Bruce said:

It all depends on what sort of driving you do with the car, but for b road drives the diff will make more difference than additional power, if its motorway pulls then it probably won't make any difference.

At the moment the only real place I'm noticing the absence of the diff is acceleration from roundabouts and corners. Straight line it feels ok but I think it will be a different sorry with more power. Torque steer is an issue on these cars from standard so anything to try and limit that is a bonus I suppose

[Dylanaledhall]

mooseracer said:

Good work A good map on these really transforms them.

For 240ish bhp and road use the standard brakes are fine imo. Looking forward to reading about the next installment!

Hi, thanks for reading . I agree the brakes are fine, may look at pads for now just to stay safe rather than sorry. My tuner also recommended better brake fluid when I come to changing the brakes entirely to race fluid I believe. Lucky he's a j hook brake supplier and can sort everything out for me. But at the moment I'm really happy with how the car is feeling

[Scobblelotcher]

Dylanaledhall said:

HazzaT said:

Nice one! I'm really looking forward to seeing how your project goes. I've got a Revo Stage 1 Mk8 (stage 1 on the Mk8 is roughly equivalent to stage 2 on the Mk7, so 240-250 brake) and it's absolutely fantastic. Mine has the Quaife diff as it's a Perf Pack car, it does still kick the TC light on into 3rd when it's wet but that's more due to the tyres being on their last legs. I'm going for the Ford Performance coilovers and the Revo brake kit as next on the list, I think 250 is the sweet spot for the me power-wise.

300+ will be mental in your Mk7 though! Enjoy lad

Thank you so much for reading and I'm really glad you're enjoying the mk8. I actually was very close to buying a Mk8 ST2 and I think it would have been £240 a month with £2000 deposit but for me personally I just preferred the look of the Mk7 although I think the MK8 is a stunning car , especially the interior compared to previous fiestas in my opinion . A diff and brakes are next on my radar just to put the power down a bit easier. Having said that, my tuner said he has a friend who owns a turbo EP3 that's making 750bhp and apparently puts the power down ok providing it's not damp, but he's about £60k deep into that thing
For me I think anything over 300 will de decent enough, on the drive home to me it felt plenty quick and I don't think I'd get bored of the power, but us car guys, always want that bit more each time

750bhp in an EP3? Nah that will be terrible, you know the bottom 3 gears will be wheel spin city. I have a good friend with a supercharged one (335bhp) and it struggles even with uprated suspension, improved wheel/tire combo and LSD. My old EP3 was okish @240ish but not amazing although my car didn't have any mods that could help it in that respect. I sold that car though after going in a ride in a Impreza, I was shocked by how ruthlessly effective the Impreza was across a typical British B-Road with 270bhp. In perfect conditions in my EP3 on these roads the Impreza was in a different league and in any wet/damp conditions it just disappeared.

Have you noticed any changes to the sound of your car? I've always loved an induction kit on a turbo car running high boost, the sound adds real drama to the car and even driving it gently you can hear the turbo spooling which is something I've always loved. I dislike overly loud exhausts and bangs though (everyone does it and it annoys everyone) but love induction noises!

[Dylanaledhall]

Scobblelotcher said:

750bhp in an EP3? Nah that will be terrible, you know the bottom 3 gears will be wheel spin city. I have a good friend with a supercharged one (335bhp) and it struggles even with uprated suspension, improved wheel/tire combo and LSD. My old EP3 was okish @240ish but not amazing although my car didn't have any mods that could help it in that respect. I sold that car though after going in a ride in a Impreza, I was shocked by how ruthlessly effective the Impreza was across a typical British B-Road with 270bhp. In perfect conditions in my EP3 on these roads the Impreza was in a different league and in any wet/damp conditions it just disappeared.

Have you noticed any changes to the sound of your car? I've always loved an induction kit on a turbo car running high boost, the sound adds real drama to the car and even driving it gently you can hear the turbo spooling which is something I've always loved. I dislike overly loud exhausts and bangs though (everyone does it and it annoys everyone) but love induction noises!

Yeah, even though I was considering an EP3 and throwing a turbo kit at it, I wouldn't want anything near 750bhp because like you say on a normal British road it would be both too much to put the power down and by the time you've finally hooked up you're doing such stupid speeds there's no point. I watched Lee Lockwood's video with a 500+ bhp EP3 and that looked stupid fast, but even they said it was almost too fast for British roads.

As for my car I have noticed a slight change in sound. Before I went and got the car mapped I fitted an ITG intake onto the car and I really liked the sound but with the map, intercooler and exhaust now on I am definitely getting a lot more induction noise. I will try and video this over the next few days but sometimes it's difficult to get sound across on camera. Other than that the idle is a lot better than the standard exhaust and now I have a few pops on the overrun which again I will try and video at some point this week( but I completely understand it is very marmite, just wanted it to see how I get on with it, plus I've just come from a diesel so I am taking advantage of actually being able to get some pops). I think you certainly get more turbo noise once bigger boost pipes are fitted along with the crossover pipe and a diverter valve. If it's turbo whistle you're after then people usually mention that the X47-R turbo from pumaspeed makes a lot of whistle noises. But yeah, I have noticed a decent change in induction noise but may get better with a GFB diverter valve, boost pipes as I mentioned and the crossover pipe

[Kaveney]

Dylanaledhall said:

Yeah, even though I was considering an EP3 and throwing a turbo kit at it, I wouldn't want anything near 750bhp because like you say on a normal British road it would be both too much to put the power down and by the time you've finally hooked up you're doing such stupid speeds there's no point. I watched Lee Lockwood's video with a 500+ bhp EP3 and that looked stupid fast, but even they said it was almost too fast for British roads.

As for my car I have noticed a slight change in sound. Before I went and got the car mapped I fitted an ITG intake onto the car and I really liked the sound but with the map, intercooler and exhaust now on I am definitely getting a lot more induction noise. I will try and video this over the next few days but sometimes it's difficult to get sound across on camera. Other than that the idle is a lot better than the standard exhaust and now I have a few pops on the overrun which again I will try and video at some point this week( but I completely understand it is very marmite, just wanted it to see how I get on with it, plus I've just come from a diesel so I am taking advantage of actually being able to get some pops). I think you certainly get more turbo noise once bigger boost pipes are fitted along with the crossover pipe and a diverter valve. If it's turbo whistle you're after then people usually mention that the X47-R turbo from pumaspeed makes a lot of whistle noises. But yeah, I have noticed a decent change in induction noise but may get better with a GFB diverter valve, boost pipes as I mentioned and the crossover pipe

The X47 i had did have a noticeable turbo noise more like a low grinding whistle

Quick link to how the TT S280 turbo sounds on a fly by .

https://youtu.be/Od2y9L4k8pA

[Dylanaledhall]

Kaveney said:

The X47 i had did have a noticeable turbo noise more like a low grinding whistle

Quick link to how the TT S280 turbo sounds on a fly by .

https://youtu.be/Od2y9L4k8pA

Haha, almost sounds like a supercharger whine