1998 996 C2

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ATM

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Tuesday 6th July 2021
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snotrag said:
ATM said:
I've finally found a 986 interesting enough to add in to the mix. Hopefully arriving any day now.
Ooh, specs and details! How do you expect that to sit in the mix with the other two?
Well I've not really thought too much about that. I know I like the drive of my 996 and I know I like the roof down action of the 981. Put the 2 together and you get a 986.

BUT

I dont fit in a 986. So it might need new seats and steering wheel and maybe pedals adjusting.

So lets see what happens.

RM

596 posts

99 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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ATM said:
Well I've not really thought too much about that. I know I like the drive of my 996 and I know I like the roof down action of the 981. Put the 2 together and you get a 986.

BUT

I dont fit in a 986. So it might need new seats and steering wheel and maybe pedals adjusting.

So lets see what happens.
I have thought that Pole Positions would be great in a 986. No idea if it is possible! Will you open a new thread (please)?

ATM

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Tuesday 6th July 2021
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RM said:
ATM said:
Well I've not really thought too much about that. I know I like the drive of my 996 and I know I like the roof down action of the 981. Put the 2 together and you get a 986.

BUT

I dont fit in a 986. So it might need new seats and steering wheel and maybe pedals adjusting.

So lets see what happens.
I have thought that Pole Positions would be great in a 986. No idea if it is possible! Will you open a new thread (please)?
New thread - yes

I've recently found recling the standard seat feels a bit better in the lower back but it feels odd lying down so still getting used to it. I do have the extra reach of the mono steering wheel so this let's me lie further back. I have the swat as far back as it will go.

None of this would be possible in the 986 as I'd hit the bulk head sooner or with my seat closer to the wheel my knees will probably interfere with the wheel.

Anyone here experienced a 986 and anyone here also on the taller side too?

snotrag

14,507 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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I'm struggling to understand what issues would be different between 986 and 996 - its the same cabin, with all the difference being behind the seats, even the seats and seat rails are interchangeable?

If you fit in the 996 with the (regular) seat fully back, surely you will fit in the Boxster?

I'd reccomend the same centre console delete as a starter, even at a measly 5ft 10 it gave me a lot of extra knee room.

ATM

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Tuesday 6th July 2021
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snotrag said:
I'm struggling to understand what issues would be different between 986 and 996 - its the same cabin, with all the difference being behind the seats, even the seats and seat rails are interchangeable?

If you fit in the 996 with the (regular) seat fully back, surely you will fit in the Boxster?

I'd reccomend the same centre console delete as a starter, even at a measly 5ft 10 it gave me a lot of extra knee room.
My first Porsche was a 986. I loved that car even though I didnt really fit.

So the seat doesnt go as far back on the runner as a 996. I think it stops short. Even if you can get it all the way back you have to have the back rest straight up as it will hit the bulk head if you try to angle it down when all the way back. Also it will interfere with the roll bar if you have the base slightly higher. So to get the back rest angled you need to bring the base forward. This then means your knees start approaching the indicator stalks.

Basically if you are on the taller side it just doesnt work.

For contract the 997 I had after the 986 was almost too far from the pedals with the seat all the way back and angled slightly. So I believe the 9x7 pedals are a bit further inboard but not sure if thats true or not. Also the wheel can adjust up and down as well as in and out. Which helps with knee room. I've never driven a 987.

snotrag

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213 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Thats a pain. For some reason I assumed you had the centre console delete (GT3 style) in the 911 but I flicked back to the start and at least initially it looks like you dont - I'd definitely start with that as its cheap, and frees up knee space.


ATM

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Tuesday 6th July 2021
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snotrag said:
Thats a pain. For some reason I assumed you had the centre console delete (GT3 style) in the 911 but I flicked back to the start and at least initially it looks like you dont - I'd definitely start with that as its cheap, and frees up knee space.

I fit ok in the 996. Its the 986 I wont fit in.

I still want to try different seats in the 996. The standard seats are a bit rubbish.

ATM

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Saturday 10th July 2021
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RM said:
I have thought that Pole Positions would be great in a 986. No idea if it is possible! Will you open a new thread (please)?
Here she is


https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...







ATM

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Friday 16th July 2021
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I think I found the cream for the repaint if It ever happens

Porsche original specification colour “Hellelfeinbein”. (Pale Ivory)


Filibuster

3,178 posts

217 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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ATM said:
I think I found the cream for the repaint if It ever happens

Porsche original specification colour “Hellelfeinbein”. (Pale Ivory)

Very nice indeed!
Trying not to be anal, but the colour is called „hell Elfenbein“. Or as you have translated correctly, light or pale ivory.

shalmaneser

5,942 posts

197 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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ATM said:
I think I found the cream for the repaint if It ever happens

Porsche original specification colour “Hellelfeinbein”. (Pale Ivory)

As wonderful as that car looks I'm not sure the cream would work with a 996. Would be interested to see if it does though!

ATM

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Sunday 18th July 2021
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shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
I think I found the cream for the repaint if It ever happens

Porsche original specification colour “Hellelfeinbein”. (Pale Ivory)

As wonderful as that car looks I'm not sure the cream would work with a 996. Would be interested to see if it does though!
I'm just thinking about a retro type colour which goes with the red leather. Otherwise I'm changing the red leather too.

ATM

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Wednesday 11th August 2021
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ATM said:
This is my wheel. Looks like 340mm to me.



Edited by ATM on Tuesday 2nd October 21:58
No its 350mm

I think it's called a Momo Model 07

https://momo-uk.co.uk/MOMO-racing-rally-MOD.07-ste...



ATM

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Saturday 4th September 2021
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Just picked up some 997 seats for this. Hopefully I'll fit them tomorrow.

ATM

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Thursday 16th September 2021
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ATM

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Friday 17th September 2021
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4 rear wheels on the car


ATM

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Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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Four Rears
I didn't intend to be driving around with 4 rears on the car. I borrowed the fronts so I could try the Boxster with 4 fronts on. I need to figure out what I am doing with the wheels on the Boxster now so I can get the fronts back for the 996. I might even try some smaller wheels on the back of the 996 next. The car drives fine with rears on the front as in no rubbing or catching at all. I've had some comments from people saying they look better. The steering definitely feels a lot more vague with them on especially around the centre. Maybe if you were planning to track the car you could use rears on the front but they are not for me.


Clutch and Brakes
Now that I have the Boxster of similar vintage I've been comparing these 2 cars back to back. The Clutch is very different on the 996 with its biting point being very low. Occasionally I also get the pedal sticking down too. I think someone mentioned this might be the master cylinder so I need to investigate this as its really starting to annoy me now I know how much better it could be. The brakes lack a bit of bite too. I think this might be due to the track day type pads which came on the car. They do create a lot of dust and make the wheels go black instantly. Which is one of the reason I dont bother cleaning the car too often and because it is all scratched and dented from the random vandalism.


Seat and Steering Wheel
Now that I have had some seat time I am really liking the 997 seats. They are almost too low so occasionally I find myself trying the seat raised slightly. But then I remind myself I wanted this so I lower it to the floor again. Legroom is also so much better. I dont have the seat all the way back like I did with the original seats. I am currently forward by 3 clicks. It probably doesn't help that the rake adjustment is a bit too far back for me as I am longer in the legs. I dont have the wiring connected so I cant adjust the rake and have to live with it in the current position for now. The steering wheel even feels almost too far away too. I definitely prefer the feel of the thinner Momo compared to the Boxster which uses the original wheel.

HughG

3,554 posts

243 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Seen in Kensington today, sorry wasn’t quick enough on the draw to get one of the front!


ATM

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Tuesday 28th September 2021
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HughG said:
Seen in Kensington today, sorry wasn’t quick enough on the draw to get one of the front!

Ooooo

Cream with Beige?

Early gen 1 car?

HughG

3,554 posts

243 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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No 996.2
On the front the colour was ok, neither amazing or unpleasant (imo).