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TyrannosauRoss Lex

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RicksAlfas said:
Love the colour. Good luck with it!

(Will you have to think about a new username now)?
I will, but no idea what it'll be yet!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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ST565NP said:
Did you sell the LS 460 yet?
They are part-exchanging it at £5k. I could have got a bit more privately, but advertised at £6k, I expected £5400-5500, so £5k to remove the hassle of dealing with the public and significantly speeding up the process.....I'll take that.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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stickleback123 said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
This is the car.

https://www.straffordcars.co.uk/used/cars/bmw-m3-m...

Obviously I'll be sure to do a reader's ride thread. The first job will be the rod bearings which I've factored in.
Oh wow that's a change from the old man Lexus, that engine is something we'll never ever see again. Could you have picked two V8s more different in character?!

I think £5k PX is very reasonable for the LS, I wouldn't be arsed dealing with mouthbreathers to make another £500 or so either. Really looking forward to hearing how the M3 goes, and possibly seeing it at a barge meet sometime.
After my dad sold his M3 at the end of 2012 I have lusted after one ever since. The engine is an absolute masterpiece, and I'm stoked to be getting my own.

In other news I just had an offer from someone on my Facebook advert for the LS460. They were generous enough to offer £2500 laugh

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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bolidemichael said:
Did you also negotiate on the M3, Ross?
Yes, but they wouldn't budge much at all. To be honest, can't blame them, looking at saloons online it is actually around the price of private sellers, but comes with 3 month's warranty, so I think the price seems fair.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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I haven't looked, are you sure they're cup 2s and not just ps2s? Harry's were fine until he had them pointed out. I'm sure they'll be fine, and it'll soon be warming up anyway.

No, I'll just do the rod bearings, which means it'll get an oil change but I see no point in doing other work unnecessarily early.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.
I'll likely get it looked over in the next few weeks, but I think you worry too much. Maybe he did take it on track days. Maybe they only used it in dry weather and the tyre place recommended that tyre, or only had that Michelin in stock and it has never seen a track before.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.
I'll likely get it looked over in the next few weeks, but I think you worry too much. Maybe he did take it on track days. Maybe they only used it in dry weather and the tyre place recommended that tyre, or only had that Michelin in stock and it has never seen a track before.
I'm not worried, just chatting because thread.
I didn't mean you were worried RE my tyres, just that you (seemingly) worry unnecessarily. Maybe.

I gather the tyres won't last very long, and if they're unsuitable then I shall change them smile

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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Thursday 2nd March 2023
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-Cappo- said:
In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!
They are considered as a "must do". However, I gather there are altered bearings available which means that, once done, never need doing again

It will cost me £1800. Eep! Still, cheaper than a new engine.....

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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Thursday 2nd March 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
-Cappo- said:
In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!
I was intrigued by this too, and a bit of Googling suggests it is recommended to replace the conrod bearings (big end shells) at 80,000 miles on pre-2011 cars and it's a chunky job as the subframe and steering rack have to be moved.
e.g.
https://www.evolveautomotive.com/rod-bearing-repla...

Wouldn't get that on a Lexus!
boxedin
Interesting, mine is a 2011 car....does that mean the problem isn't a problem?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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RicksAlfas said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Interesting, mine is a 2011 car....does that mean the problem isn't a problem?
Worth asking someone who knows what they are on about. That was the first link I found and says "The replacement rod bearings used are the new updated design from 2011 onwards" so you might be OK.
Thanks. I phoned Evolve who said that even the later bearings do wear, but just not quite so badly and they still recommend getting them done. The car is booked in for the work (as well as engine mounts - might as well whilst they can get to them easily) for April 12th.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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RicksAlfas said:
Sounds good. You'll be happier knowing they are done.

When do you collect the car?
I've collected it, hence the photos hehe

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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RicksAlfas said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I've collected it, hence the photos hehe
Ah! There's a new thread! Sorry, hadn't spotted it.
Doh, I thought I was replying to the new thread laugh

E90_M3Ross

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Sunday 10th March
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I keep my old cars in my "garage" on the Vehicle Smart app and I wonder what's happened to this car....

It is currently registered as sorn, and the MOT expires in 2 days. Being registered as sorn could mean the car is for sale, has been taken off the road (it's not really a car to store and save for the summer!) or whatever.... However, it's not even on the insurance database. Which seems very odd. I wonder if it's been scrapped or written off or something but still registered as sorn.

Weird, what think you lot?

E90_M3Ross

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Sunday 10th March
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donkmeister said:
Broken for parts is one option. Complex cars, very expensive new bits, people now running them without wanting the running costs of a super-barge means there is a decent market for used parts.

Might find bits of it on eBay.
Seems odd, it was a good solid example (at least when I sold it) aside from it needing a track rod end (for which it was actually booked in for, but then I decided to sell). I don't think it wanted for anything else! Although you never know.....if the steering rack went, or some suspension went it could soon cost several £k.

E90_M3Ross

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Sunday 10th March
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ChocolateFrog said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Seems odd, it was a good solid example (at least when I sold it) aside from it needing a track rod end (for which it was actually booked in for, but then I decided to sell). I don't think it wanted for anything else! Although you never know.....if the steering rack went, or some suspension went it could soon cost several £k.
I've sold plenty of solid cars that have never passes another MOT.

Sad but most owners of older cars give up at the first bill.
Be a shame if that is the case. Hey ho!

E90_M3Ross

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Thing is it was sold to a dealer that had it up for £7500, so seems odd to break it if you spent that on it, no?

E90_M3Ross

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ChocolateFrog said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Thing is it was sold to a dealer that had it up for £7500, so seems odd to break it if you spent that on it, no?
Depends. If you're at the behest of the garage to maintain a car then one bill for something like a steering rack, major suspension work, gearbox fault etc will quickly add up to a significant percentage of the cars value.

Only really works if you DIY or have deep pockets.
Guess I'll never know what happened to it. Just find it strange that someone may have paid £7500 for it under 1 year ago /last V5 was April last year apparently) and then scrap it. Likewise, I can't think of any other reason why it's be not insured.

E90_M3Ross

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Monday 11th March
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ST565NP said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Guess I'll never know what happened to it. Just find it strange that someone may have paid £7500 for it under 1 year ago /last V5 was April last year apparently) and then scrap it. Likewise, I can't think of any other reason why it's be not insured.
Maybe it was exported ?
Wouldn't be registered as sorn though, would it?

E90_M3Ross

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0a said:
Could it have been put on a private plate? The owner might have SORNed it for all sorts of reasons.
That's a fair point, to be fair.