My Corrado (a little bit different)
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.Podie said:
aka_kerrly said:
Podie said:
The weight of the Corrado can't be far off a Furby. With a remap, they really can surprise a few things...
I think you will find that the corrado is LIGHTER than a furby ( assume you mean Skoda Fabia VRs)
Yeah, thanks for that - I'm well aware the Corrado is lighter. From memory the Corrado was about 1240kg? Fabia about 1315kg? Personally I wouldn't say that wasn't far off.The figure you quoted is for a VR6 corrado, 4 cylinder models weigh around 1100kgs and i'd expect the TDI lump to be around the same as a G60.
aka_kerrly said:
Podie said:
aka_kerrly said:
Podie said:
The weight of the Corrado can't be far off a Furby. With a remap, they really can surprise a few things...
I think you will find that the corrado is LIGHTER than a furby ( assume you mean Skoda Fabia VRs) Yeah, thanks for that - I'm well aware the Corrado is lighter. From memory the Corrado was about 1240kg? Fabia about 1315kg? Personally I wouldn't say that wasn't far off.The figure you quoted is for a VR6 corrado, 4 cylinder models weigh around 1100kgs and i'd expect the TDI lump to be around the same as a G60.
Podie said:
The rolling eyes were in response to the somewhat sanctimonious comment "I think you'll find.."
I certainly hadn't intended for my comment to come across like that, I only wanted to firm provide some facts rather than suggest that one may be around the same weight as the other as per your post. Either way, let us not worry about trivial things.
Wow, wasn't expecting so many replies 
There're quite a lot of questions so I'll try to cover them all.
MPG wise, it varies depending on how I drive but it seems to be averaging about 57-60mpg. On a long run I can get 65mpg and blatting it around the country lanes I generally return 50ish.
Performance wise, it's not 'quick' but it's not slow either. I've measured the 0-60 time as being about 10.5 seconds, which as someone said is pretty much the same as the 2.0 8V that I removed from the car. The engine is really nice, plenty of torque but doesn't have much to give above about 3000rpm, particularly with it currently being a non-VNT turbo. It does however deliver a fairly nice shove in the back at lower rpm and it can still be 'fun' to stir the gears and eeek the best in terms of performance. I have owned high-revving petrol engined cars (including a Corrado VR6 as I previously said) so I feel fairly well qualified to comment on the old 'petrol vs diesel' debate. I would sum it up by saying that while the driving experience lacks the high-intensity drama of a revvy petrol car, it still provides a good amount 'smiles per mile'. I find it quite satisfying to only have 90bhp and still be able to play with more powerful cars on the twisties, as I'm sure a lot of you know that the Corrado benefits from a superb chassis. I also know it'll never really be quick enough to kill myself so it sort of encourages me to drive it quickly everywhere
To settle the weight argument that someone was having - it weighs 1155kg with not much fuel in the tank. Somewhere halfway between a 4-pot and a VR basically. When you were talking about Furby's I thought you meant those annoying little penguin things that all the kids wanted for Christmas about 10 years ago so I'm glad Kerrly clarified that it was a Fabia because I'd never have got it
You won't believe the amount of times I've been told that "that VE engine is a waste of time, you should have just shoved a PD in there and be done with it". Well this is my opinion on the matter.......there isn't really any benefit - the PD is more complicated, expensive to buy, suffers if incorrectly maintained and require lots of electronics to get it to work, including the use of the donor vehicles clocks. Not to mention the inherent difficulty of the engine mounts which require a fair bit of modification to the chassis legs or hefty subframe modifications coupled with turbo changes etc. Admittedly, they're *slightly* more refined, but offer no other benefit. They're even less economical. The VE TDi literally drops straight in, is good for big power (200bhp on standard internals is achievable with relatively good reliability, they will give 170bhp all day long with no bother), allows one to easily run the standard Corrado clocks, standard wiring, etc. It is relatively cheap (sub £1k) to modify the engine to give 150bhp/260lbft, so once you've factored in the purchase price of a PD engine and all the ancillaries etc I believe a VE is the way to go.
I built the car to look as close as possible to how it would have done if VW had ever built a Corrado TDi. It uses an engine of the same vintage (90bhp 1Z for someone who asked), which is a *relatively* straightforward physical swap. I say relatively because there were still a few challenges to overcome, and I did chose to rebuild the rest of it at the same time
To the person who asked if I was at the 'Ring last year, I was indeed. I remember you guys arriving and I spent a bit of time admiring the cars when you weren't looking I think. Someone even got a picture of the Corrado which made me happy:
Think that's everything, thanks for reading
There're quite a lot of questions so I'll try to cover them all.
MPG wise, it varies depending on how I drive but it seems to be averaging about 57-60mpg. On a long run I can get 65mpg and blatting it around the country lanes I generally return 50ish.
Performance wise, it's not 'quick' but it's not slow either. I've measured the 0-60 time as being about 10.5 seconds, which as someone said is pretty much the same as the 2.0 8V that I removed from the car. The engine is really nice, plenty of torque but doesn't have much to give above about 3000rpm, particularly with it currently being a non-VNT turbo. It does however deliver a fairly nice shove in the back at lower rpm and it can still be 'fun' to stir the gears and eeek the best in terms of performance. I have owned high-revving petrol engined cars (including a Corrado VR6 as I previously said) so I feel fairly well qualified to comment on the old 'petrol vs diesel' debate. I would sum it up by saying that while the driving experience lacks the high-intensity drama of a revvy petrol car, it still provides a good amount 'smiles per mile'. I find it quite satisfying to only have 90bhp and still be able to play with more powerful cars on the twisties, as I'm sure a lot of you know that the Corrado benefits from a superb chassis. I also know it'll never really be quick enough to kill myself so it sort of encourages me to drive it quickly everywhere
To settle the weight argument that someone was having - it weighs 1155kg with not much fuel in the tank. Somewhere halfway between a 4-pot and a VR basically. When you were talking about Furby's I thought you meant those annoying little penguin things that all the kids wanted for Christmas about 10 years ago so I'm glad Kerrly clarified that it was a Fabia because I'd never have got it
You won't believe the amount of times I've been told that "that VE engine is a waste of time, you should have just shoved a PD in there and be done with it". Well this is my opinion on the matter.......there isn't really any benefit - the PD is more complicated, expensive to buy, suffers if incorrectly maintained and require lots of electronics to get it to work, including the use of the donor vehicles clocks. Not to mention the inherent difficulty of the engine mounts which require a fair bit of modification to the chassis legs or hefty subframe modifications coupled with turbo changes etc. Admittedly, they're *slightly* more refined, but offer no other benefit. They're even less economical. The VE TDi literally drops straight in, is good for big power (200bhp on standard internals is achievable with relatively good reliability, they will give 170bhp all day long with no bother), allows one to easily run the standard Corrado clocks, standard wiring, etc. It is relatively cheap (sub £1k) to modify the engine to give 150bhp/260lbft, so once you've factored in the purchase price of a PD engine and all the ancillaries etc I believe a VE is the way to go.
I built the car to look as close as possible to how it would have done if VW had ever built a Corrado TDi. It uses an engine of the same vintage (90bhp 1Z for someone who asked), which is a *relatively* straightforward physical swap. I say relatively because there were still a few challenges to overcome, and I did chose to rebuild the rest of it at the same time
To the person who asked if I was at the 'Ring last year, I was indeed. I remember you guys arriving and I spent a bit of time admiring the cars when you weren't looking I think. Someone even got a picture of the Corrado which made me happy:
Think that's everything, thanks for reading
Nice work.
I've dropped a diesel into my Mk2 Scirocco. Only a 1600 running a VE Bosch Pump.
52mpg urban, 73mpg @ 50mph, 60mpg @ 70mph.
I've got a whole 54bhp and 74lbs ft at the moment but I've just got a head, manifolds, pump, injectors etc from a Golf GTD which will see me up to 75bhp and over 100lbs ft. My car only weighs 940kg so it'll be ok.
I wanted to drop in a non PD TDI such as your own but the Scirocco box wouldn't go over the flywheel which meant using a Passat box and changing to cable gearshift from rods. Also, the fusbox on a Passat and Corrado is on the drivers side? Scirocco is passenger which meant I could plug and play with a Caddy diesel loom. Essentially all my wiring is factory, as is the exhaust, engine mounts, transmission and cooling system. It really was just an engine swap for me.
If you ever sell, give me a shout.
Good luck
I've dropped a diesel into my Mk2 Scirocco. Only a 1600 running a VE Bosch Pump.
52mpg urban, 73mpg @ 50mph, 60mpg @ 70mph.
I've got a whole 54bhp and 74lbs ft at the moment but I've just got a head, manifolds, pump, injectors etc from a Golf GTD which will see me up to 75bhp and over 100lbs ft. My car only weighs 940kg so it'll be ok.
I wanted to drop in a non PD TDI such as your own but the Scirocco box wouldn't go over the flywheel which meant using a Passat box and changing to cable gearshift from rods. Also, the fusbox on a Passat and Corrado is on the drivers side? Scirocco is passenger which meant I could plug and play with a Caddy diesel loom. Essentially all my wiring is factory, as is the exhaust, engine mounts, transmission and cooling system. It really was just an engine swap for me.
If you ever sell, give me a shout.
Good luck
MJK 24 said:
Nice work.
I've dropped a diesel into my Mk2 Scirocco. Only a 1600 running a VE Bosch Pump.
52mpg urban, 73mpg @ 50mph, 60mpg @ 70mph.
I've got a whole 54bhp and 74lbs ft at the moment but I've just got a head, manifolds, pump, injectors etc from a Golf GTD which will see me up to 75bhp and over 100lbs ft. My car only weighs 940kg so it'll be ok.
I wanted to drop in a non PD TDI such as your own but the Scirocco box wouldn't go over the flywheel which meant using a Passat box and changing to cable gearshift from rods. Also, the fusbox on a Passat and Corrado is on the drivers side? Scirocco is passenger which meant I could plug and play with a Caddy diesel loom. Essentially all my wiring is factory, as is the exhaust, engine mounts, transmission and cooling system. It really was just an engine swap for me.
If you ever sell, give me a shout.
Good luck
PICTURES!I've dropped a diesel into my Mk2 Scirocco. Only a 1600 running a VE Bosch Pump.
52mpg urban, 73mpg @ 50mph, 60mpg @ 70mph.
I've got a whole 54bhp and 74lbs ft at the moment but I've just got a head, manifolds, pump, injectors etc from a Golf GTD which will see me up to 75bhp and over 100lbs ft. My car only weighs 940kg so it'll be ok.
I wanted to drop in a non PD TDI such as your own but the Scirocco box wouldn't go over the flywheel which meant using a Passat box and changing to cable gearshift from rods. Also, the fusbox on a Passat and Corrado is on the drivers side? Scirocco is passenger which meant I could plug and play with a Caddy diesel loom. Essentially all my wiring is factory, as is the exhaust, engine mounts, transmission and cooling system. It really was just an engine swap for me.
If you ever sell, give me a shout.
Good luck
MJK 24 - sounds awesome, you should start a thread
Just to let you know, I've recently acquired another Corrado and I'm getting the itch to build another TDi. Its ripe for it as its a VR6 without the engine/box so the TDi would slot in there perfectly. I'd be building it to sell so if you're seriously interested then let me know
Just to let you know, I've recently acquired another Corrado and I'm getting the itch to build another TDi. Its ripe for it as its a VR6 without the engine/box so the TDi would slot in there perfectly. I'd be building it to sell so if you're seriously interested then let me know
Podie said:
MJK 24 said:
Nice work.
I've dropped a diesel into my Mk2 Scirocco. Only a 1600 running a VE Bosch Pump.
52mpg urban, 73mpg @ 50mph, 60mpg @ 70mph.
I've got a whole 54bhp and 74lbs ft at the moment but I've just got a head, manifolds, pump, injectors etc from a Golf GTD which will see me up to 75bhp and over 100lbs ft. My car only weighs 940kg so it'll be ok.
I wanted to drop in a non PD TDI such as your own but the Scirocco box wouldn't go over the flywheel which meant using a Passat box and changing to cable gearshift from rods. Also, the fusbox on a Passat and Corrado is on the drivers side? Scirocco is passenger which meant I could plug and play with a Caddy diesel loom. Essentially all my wiring is factory, as is the exhaust, engine mounts, transmission and cooling system. It really was just an engine swap for me.
If you ever sell, give me a shout.
Good luck
This is the most recent picture. Last October or November on a sunny day!I've dropped a diesel into my Mk2 Scirocco. Only a 1600 running a VE Bosch Pump.
52mpg urban, 73mpg @ 50mph, 60mpg @ 70mph.
I've got a whole 54bhp and 74lbs ft at the moment but I've just got a head, manifolds, pump, injectors etc from a Golf GTD which will see me up to 75bhp and over 100lbs ft. My car only weighs 940kg so it'll be ok.
I wanted to drop in a non PD TDI such as your own but the Scirocco box wouldn't go over the flywheel which meant using a Passat box and changing to cable gearshift from rods. Also, the fusbox on a Passat and Corrado is on the drivers side? Scirocco is passenger which meant I could plug and play with a Caddy diesel loom. Essentially all my wiring is factory, as is the exhaust, engine mounts, transmission and cooling system. It really was just an engine swap for me.
If you ever sell, give me a shout.
Good luck
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