Are there good 911s for £13k? ...
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er, hello, 
don't mind me, just hopped over the fence from the Italian section to ask some advice.
Undoubtedly the answer to the above question is yes ... but what model to go for, that is the confusing bit.
My F348 Spider goes on Saturday and, until I can sort out the funds for a 512 Testarossa or 456, I need something to keep me in mischief for 6-12 months, which isn't going to cost the earth and hence not take too much of a beating come re-sale time.
The 911 is the obvious answer. I think I need to be looking at a 3.2 CS, a 964, or a late 80s Turbo. I presume that all of these will do a true 150mph so that I can mostly keep up on runs (continental of course!)
I prefer the more up to date interior and bigger 3.6 engine of the 964, but don't like the "soft" back end without a fixed spoiler (but 964 Turbos are too expensive). Should I go for an earlier Turbo, or may I be buying potential trouble and bills?
I just don't know enough about the pros and cons of each model variant.
The budget is £12-14k, Coupe only, RHD preferred, also larey colours like magenta or Club Sport blue would be seen as a bonus
Any pointers or advice will be gratefully recieved.
thanks,
al
>> Edited by burriana on Wednesday 16th November 14:44
don't mind me, just hopped over the fence from the Italian section to ask some advice. Undoubtedly the answer to the above question is yes ... but what model to go for, that is the confusing bit.
My F348 Spider goes on Saturday and, until I can sort out the funds for a 512 Testarossa or 456, I need something to keep me in mischief for 6-12 months, which isn't going to cost the earth and hence not take too much of a beating come re-sale time.
The 911 is the obvious answer. I think I need to be looking at a 3.2 CS, a 964, or a late 80s Turbo. I presume that all of these will do a true 150mph so that I can mostly keep up on runs (continental of course!)
I prefer the more up to date interior and bigger 3.6 engine of the 964, but don't like the "soft" back end without a fixed spoiler (but 964 Turbos are too expensive). Should I go for an earlier Turbo, or may I be buying potential trouble and bills?
I just don't know enough about the pros and cons of each model variant.
The budget is £12-14k, Coupe only, RHD preferred, also larey colours like magenta or Club Sport blue would be seen as a bonus
Any pointers or advice will be gratefully recieved.
thanks,
al
>> Edited by burriana on Wednesday 16th November 14:44
There's a lovely 3.2 Targa on www.911sport.co.uk - saw it when I went over to collect my 996 C4 and just loved it. Can't remember how much he wants for it but I think it is just about in budget.
Good luck!
Good luck!
No chance of a club sport I`m afraid when people are asking £20-25k. A decent 911 turbo is going to set you back £20k ish and a 964 @ £13k will have some issues, (although we do have a lovely LHD 964 at £12k and a scruffy but mechanically sound 964 cab in RHD going on the site for £13-14k).
A 3.2 Carrera is the most likely car for the money. Again though the best examples will exceed your budget.
Henry
A 3.2 Carrera is the most likely car for the money. Again though the best examples will exceed your budget.
Henry
I would recommend a 964
For £14k you will be pushing it to find a good RHD 964, you should be able to take your choice on LHD though. Subscribe to 964porsche@smartgroups.com if you are serious and they will give you a guide on what to watch out for. You shouldnt lose much in the way of dep'n if its a good one
For £14k you will be pushing it to find a good RHD 964, you should be able to take your choice on LHD though. Subscribe to 964porsche@smartgroups.com if you are serious and they will give you a guide on what to watch out for. You shouldnt lose much in the way of dep'n if its a good one
Al, I noticed that Justin Banks had a 964 cab for that sort of money - haven't looked to see what it's like though - his stuff can be "cosmetically challenged" though.
The answer's "yes" - I've seen quite a few private 964s for that cash but do be aware of the top-end issues with these - even if the trade deny they exist, it's the first thing they look for when negotiating price to buy your car in at!
As Henry says, not a chance of a CS. A number of 3.2s in the trade for £13k - G50 boxes too.
Right time of year to buy as well - especially private - sellers asking silly money may start to take offers now.
The answer's "yes" - I've seen quite a few private 964s for that cash but do be aware of the top-end issues with these - even if the trade deny they exist, it's the first thing they look for when negotiating price to buy your car in at!
As Henry says, not a chance of a CS. A number of 3.2s in the trade for £13k - G50 boxes too.
Right time of year to buy as well - especially private - sellers asking silly money may start to take offers now.
Hmm, that's a shame, and it flys well in the face of what both P.Heads classifieds and Auto trader are saying re: values, unless they are all dogs?
This one for example looked quite nice for the money?
[url]www.pistonheads.com/sales/55523.htm[/url]
Just a little bit subtle for me, hence why I said "Magenta or Club Sport blue" ... not actually a Club Sport car.
I suspected a Turbo might be out of reach, they tend to start at about £17-18k
However, keep the advice coming guys, it's all going in
This one for example looked quite nice for the money?
[url]www.pistonheads.com/sales/55523.htm[/url]
Just a little bit subtle for me, hence why I said "Magenta or Club Sport blue" ... not actually a Club Sport car.
I suspected a Turbo might be out of reach, they tend to start at about £17-18k
However, keep the advice coming guys, it's all going in
burriana said:
Hmm, that's a shame, and it flys well in the face of what both P.Heads classifieds and Auto trader are saying re: values, unless they are all dogs?
This one for example looked quite nice for the money?
[url]www.pistonheads.com/sales/55523.htm[/url]
Just a little bit subtle for me, hence why I said "Magenta or Club Sport blue" ... not actually a Club Sport car.
I suspected a Turbo might be out of reach, they tend to start at about £17-18k
However, keep the advice coming guys, it's all going in
On face value that looks like an interesting car but with a bit of knowledge and experience it actually raises alarm bells with me - A it's too cheap and B it's very vague in the description of it's history. It may well be worth a look but be very suspicious.
For £13k you will find a pretty good 3.2 Targa but you're unlikely to find a top Coupe. There are however some decent high milers around for that money.
So, the Targas are cheaper than the Coupes? Any rough idea of the difference?
I had considered LHD and to be honest, don't mind, but RHD means the wife could occasionally drive it where she wouldn't touch a LHD in this country. Again, what is the price differential between right and left. On Ferraris it's usually about £4-5k
I had considered LHD and to be honest, don't mind, but RHD means the wife could occasionally drive it where she wouldn't touch a LHD in this country. Again, what is the price differential between right and left. On Ferraris it's usually about £4-5k
rubystone said:
That's a Tiptronic though - IMHO 964 Tiptronics are second only to 968 Tiptronics in to dog department, but don't take my word for it, go and drive one! Bit like comparing a Mondial 8 to a Mondial T if you know what I mean...
LOL. harsh...but very fair
in answer to question - yes, but (as said) RHD pre-964 for a goodie, LHD 964 within reach. great care to be applied in the choosing however. ratio of dogs to pussycats seems to be rising of late
>> Edited by softinthehead on Wednesday 16th November 15:55
burriana said:
So, the Targas are cheaper than the Coupes? Any rough idea of the difference?
I had considered LHD and to be honest, don't mind, but RHD means the wife could occasionally drive it where she wouldn't touch a LHD in this country. Again, what is the price differential between right and left. On Ferraris it's usually about £4-5k
Targas are £3-4k cheaper - I have to be honest though and say that I switched from Targa to Coupe because I found the Targa intolerable for daily use, the roofs are pretty pants. Having said that I love the concept and if my 3.2 was just for fun I would definitely revert back.
On the tip box issue. I have had a couple of tip 968's which may have been a little slower but were a pleasure to drive and if you drive them aggressively the box responds and revs a little longer and changes down a little quicker. I also drove it often without top gear and it felt pretty quick to me. I wouldnt write off a tip and BTW the missus would love it (mine did) and that may be able to swing the LHD issue.
Hey Al.
Have you seen this one in the classifieds. A 4WD manual Cabrio and not far from you, idea for the Hoon if you haven't switched back to Ferrari ownership.
www.pistonheads.com/sales/45024.htm
DAZ
(Don't know seller etc)
Have you seen this one in the classifieds. A 4WD manual Cabrio and not far from you, idea for the Hoon if you haven't switched back to Ferrari ownership.
www.pistonheads.com/sales/45024.htm
DAZ
(Don't know seller etc)
dazren said:
Hey Al.
Have you seen this one in the classifieds. A 4WD manual Cabrio and not far from you, idea for the Hoon if you haven't switched back to Ferrari ownership.
Ah, Squadron Leader Sir!
Don't want a cabrio though i'm afraid, had two and I think that's enough.
Suppose a Targa would be ok... and you can get some good colours in them... and, it is only a weekend fun car and kept in a heated garage, so maybe ... but I just remember the oft quoted saying ... get the newest car you can afford, so LHD it might have to be if you guys are correct with the money issues.
There are just so many out there that look well priced though. Apart from full service history, but are the other danger zones?
burriana said:
but I just remember the oft quoted saying ... get the newest car you can afford,
Really not true of 911s. The 3.2 is the ultimate evolution of the original car. The 964 was largely new and had a few nasty teething problems so you'll find the 3.2 more solid and reliable and cheaper to keep, albeit not quite as quick and refined (but still very nice).
>> Edited by ICSD on Wednesday 16th November 16:53
henry-f said:
we do have a lovely LHD 964 at £12k and a scruffy but mechanically sound 964 cab in RHD going on the site for £13-14k.
Henry
Got some lovely cars there Henry - especially the two bright blue ones
There is an interesting white 964 targa but i couldn't get anymore pictures to display.
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