Sports exhaust 4 996 TT
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Advice please chaps, has anybody put a sports exhaust on their 996TT ? I love this car but would like a little bit more ear lobe stimulation at higher revs, extra power isn't the issue, that's one thing this car doesn't need !!! I don't want to mess with the CATS, as I have heard that the racing CATS only last a short while. Used to have a Cargraphic system on a C2 but that was a little too loud, fronts of houses ripping & all that stuff !!The Porsche system would be ideal (it even has a switch to turn the sound down when you feel fragile!!) but they don't do one for the Turbo, unless anybody know's different. Any idea's guy's ?????
Grant, I have seen quite a few non Porsche ones advertised for the TT,but don't have any first hand experience myself on a TT.
I suggest you look at www.rennlist.com go to the 996TT forum,this is global but mostly US based,the guys on there seem to put a different sports exhuast on thier TT's every week.Although it seems to happen in the US they source a lot of parts from Europe.
I suggest you look at www.rennlist.com go to the 996TT forum,this is global but mostly US based,the guys on there seem to put a different sports exhuast on thier TT's every week.Although it seems to happen in the US they source a lot of parts from Europe.
Hi "Chopper" (I hope that nickname refers to something with rotorblades!!) update 1, had a quick look on Rennlist (as per clubsport/Domster) during lunch,this is going to be a difficult one !!! The favourite seems to be the Ruf system (at $5000 US ouch !!) although they mentioned Fabspeed, Gemballa,Tubi, Europipe & MSracing systems. Much talk of resonance whilst cruising in higher gear's (which neither of us would want) on all but the RUF.I will try the US funcar & Turbo site's when I get a chance, but hope we get some Uk feedback. I also saw an article on a G-Force in GT magazine, so will look at that. These things are never straight forward !!!!
Grant the guys at www.design911.com based in the UK always have an ad in Porker post for their 996TT / GT2 sports exhausts complete with 100cell cats for £1995.
I would be inclined to go for the 100 cell cats as that will be the best help for bhp gains and if the sports exhaust wrecks your existing cats,you can revert the whole thing back to standard in the event of any warranty claims.
after all £2k is just pocket money to you TT guys ?
I would be inclined to go for the 100 cell cats as that will be the best help for bhp gains and if the sports exhaust wrecks your existing cats,you can revert the whole thing back to standard in the event of any warranty claims.
after all £2k is just pocket money to you TT guys ?
Paul there's TIGHT & there's MIS-GUIDED (!!!) I've told you B4 it's a slippery slope, I said the same as you a couple of years back, it's just a matter of time B4 a TT sneeks onto your drive, I can tell.
DON'T RESIST IT ...you know it makes sense !!!!!
Anyway The C2 facelift is a FABULOUS car, enjoy,just as a matter of interest do you have the sports suspension fitted, I've had one with & one without, wondered what you had gone for & why ???
Anyway better stop rambling B4 the men in white coats arrive !!!
DON'T RESIST IT ...you know it makes sense !!!!!
Anyway The C2 facelift is a FABULOUS car, enjoy,just as a matter of interest do you have the sports suspension fitted, I've had one with & one without, wondered what you had gone for & why ???
Anyway better stop rambling B4 the men in white coats arrive !!!
The exhaust I had put on mine is a Techart Racing system, and it's transformed the sound from Dyson dual cyclone to an air cooled Porsche sound with a metallic edge. I *really* like it, though if anything it could do with being a bit louder.
It's not a cheap option, despite being supplied from Scuderia Systems, but you get what you pay for generally, and it's important enough to me to want to get it right.
It's not a cheap option, despite being supplied from Scuderia Systems, but you get what you pay for generally, and it's important enough to me to want to get it right.
I've heard Hayward & Scott make good custom systems, take a look at this - www.haywardandscott.co.uk/case2.htm
Grant, I had driven earlier 996 with sports & regular suspension on both 17 & 18" wheels.
In the end I went for sports chassis which is 10mm lower as fitted to C4S,this along with 18" carrera wheels (lightish) & Pirelii p-zero rosso.I am very happy with the handling & ride of the car.I found the sports suspension too hard as in 964 RS hard,I met a couple of owners who wished they hadn't ordered it.That and potential re sale helped me make my decision.
As much as I admire & respect the TT I really don't know if I want one,I have been a passenger in a couple and get to drive a good friends C4 996 on occasion,I really do enjoy the characteristics of the 2wd cars.
My car is in for a main dealer service next week,I may try to get a ride in their 996TT,maybe the extra performance will just win me over.
In the end I went for sports chassis which is 10mm lower as fitted to C4S,this along with 18" carrera wheels (lightish) & Pirelii p-zero rosso.I am very happy with the handling & ride of the car.I found the sports suspension too hard as in 964 RS hard,I met a couple of owners who wished they hadn't ordered it.That and potential re sale helped me make my decision.
As much as I admire & respect the TT I really don't know if I want one,I have been a passenger in a couple and get to drive a good friends C4 996 on occasion,I really do enjoy the characteristics of the 2wd cars.
My car is in for a main dealer service next week,I may try to get a ride in their 996TT,maybe the extra performance will just win me over.
CLUBSPORT.... glad you went for the sports chassis, I specified standard suspension on my 2nd C2 because the sports chassis on my 1st 996 got a little tiring on my daily B road route. But I regretted it, the car was ok up to 8 10ths but it got all floaty after that, the 10mm lower chassis is the best choice, the same as on the Turbo infact !! I agree with you about the standard C4 but the Turbo does need 4WD, although it feels 2WD. Anyway ther will be all sorts of issues when you eventually look for your next car, like new 400BHP 997 models !!! Porsche ownership..slippery slope !!
456GT.. Thanks for the tip,can I ask a few questions
1/ did you change your cats as well
2/ do you get booming in the cabin at certain revs.
3/what does it sound like at lower revs (a previous sport's exhaust I had made the Porker sound like a tractor at low revs although it sounded great at the top end.
4/ Have you heard the Tubi & RUF systems
5/ did it affect your warranty & performance.
Phew that was like 20 questions !!!
+++ thanks for the Hayward & Scott tip I will have a look.
456GT.. Thanks for the tip,can I ask a few questions
1/ did you change your cats as well
2/ do you get booming in the cabin at certain revs.
3/what does it sound like at lower revs (a previous sport's exhaust I had made the Porker sound like a tractor at low revs although it sounded great at the top end.
4/ Have you heard the Tubi & RUF systems
5/ did it affect your warranty & performance.
Phew that was like 20 questions !!!
+++ thanks for the Hayward & Scott tip I will have a look.
Grant3 said: 456GT.. Thanks for the tip,can I ask a few questions
1/ did you change your cats as well
2/ do you get booming in the cabin at certain revs.
3/what does it sound like at lower revs (a previous sport's exhaust I had made the Porker sound like a tractor at low revs although it sounded great at the top end.
4/ Have you heard the Tubi & RUF systems
5/ did it affect your warranty & performance.
Phew that was like 20 questions !!!
1) No
2) No. It is VERY easy to live with- stationary traffic etc.
3) Sound is pretty consistent throughout the range. At low revs it just sounds throaty, with a slightly hollow burble. This sound increases in pitch and in volume at higher revs.
4) I have heard the Ruf but not the Tubi. Manu recommended this system and I trust his judgement. I haven't heard another 911 I preferred the sound of, though Doms Red Baron @ high revs has the edge; mine sounds more mellow than that.
5) Warranty is a grey area, and seems to be more of an issue with ferrari than Porsche. In general, and according to lawyers I know, it does not, and I would be prepared to fight on that basis. Any garage claiming that it does is on shaky ground for a counter suit. I've told my insurance company.
I don't think it increases power, though I haven't measured it and that wasn't the intention. Seems to rev more freely but that could be an illusion.
HTH
Kevin
456/Kevin thanks for the reply & your advice.Presumably you just changed the rear silencers, do you mind me asking what that cost. Manu say's you need to change the CAT's as well in order to balance the system. I have to confess to being a little jumpy about messing with cats (this also takes the prices of the system up to between £2.5k & £5k) have asked Porsche OPC for comment on warranty if I replace standard cats, will let you know their comment!! I also have to look at the G-Force & Hayward & Scott systems that have been mentioned, although the Tubi still looks good.
Cheers
Cheers
Kevin, you are a gentleman, thanks for the further information. I may well take you up on the "sound test" once I have all my info. together, "Chopper"
(I met him at the Aston bash) is also on the look out for a system, but we both share concern's with CAT mod's & warranty, which I am checking on. Thanks again.
G
(I met him at the Aston bash) is also on the look out for a system, but we both share concern's with CAT mod's & warranty, which I am checking on. Thanks again.
G
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