I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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roca1976

574 posts

116 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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The optional 6 speed on the 2.7 knocks them up to £600+ VED tax. The std 5spd is more robust according to the internet blurb. There have been a few £15k sub 100k gen 2 2.9 on Facebook marketplace lately so they are definitely overlapping with lower mile 2.7.

vinnie07

152 posts

17 months

Sunday 1st January 2023
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Thank you Escy for detailing your actual mechanical costs of issues that have arisen in your ownership. I figured these cars would be every bit as reliable as a BMW Audi sports car equivalent with possibly just more expensive parts. Whilst your costs look initially alarming over the course of the mileage you have done it doesn't look so bad.

Beautiful looking car ATM, it looks immaculate! I totally understand there is a lot more to it than picking a low mileage nice condition car and it been right.
With all of the advice given on here I think I need to delve deeper into these cars before taking the plunge.
Regarding most mechanical work I live next door to a garage and I am very friendly with the so labour charges are always heavily discounted for me which is a help in that regard as Im not the most mechanically minded where cars are concerned

ATM

18,365 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd January 2023
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vinnie07 said:
Beautiful looking car ATM, it looks immaculate!
Thanks

It did when I got it but it doesn't now. It's been outside every day since. It's still very tidy but far from immaculate. I don't think I'd find another which looks much better condition wise. But it doesn't drive very well and I've got some other niggles like leaks.

The point I was making is that these cars need quite a lot of TLC comparatively. So if you buy one and you want it right then you need to buy one which has been lavished with TLC or you will need to play catch up.

You can still enjoy these cars even if they are not in the best possible state. That's more about you as an owner. If you don't know what a good one feels like then you may accept ok. Then if nothing breaks you are fine. If you can fiddle and tackle small jobs yourself then again you are winning. But if you will always require a mechanic to do every little thing then your costs will escalate.

My red car above has cost me basically nothing as its just had oils changed and nothing else. And i did the work. But I'm still trying to decide if I want to keep it as I have a few cars.

nessiemac

1,568 posts

242 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Looking to join the club maybe.

Got some interest in a 2003 Boxster S.

Looks in overall very good condition and is definitely owned by an enthusiast which is always good to see.

Don't want to link to the advert but photos and description of work done so far below.

Asking price is £9000. Does that sound good or pricy considering all the work it has had done even though it's fairly high miles. (105,000)

Cheers




barryrs

4,413 posts

224 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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barryrs said:
Started with the OS

5 snapped bolts and 1 head drilled off!

This is a test fit with 4 newly threaded bolts with 2 left to do but I’m knackered so called it a day.



As expected an awful job all round smile
OS complete, NS next!

It’s not that technically difficult with a good drill guide, just hard work off the garage floor.

ATM

18,365 posts

220 months

snotrag

14,503 posts

212 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Seller of that one has an insta account showing some background stuff. Do a google search on the reg. It does look smart.

nessiemac

1,568 posts

242 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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ATM said:
That's the one I mentioned earlier.

Does this seem like a good buy?

edc

9,245 posts

252 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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It's all about the condition and maintenance history. Some big ticket items mentioned but no mention of suspensions arms/bushes, water pump/coolant tank, exhaust system will be probably corroded to nearly nothing.

shalmaneser

5,939 posts

196 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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ATM said:
Does look smart on those wheels. Would want to know the details of the engine rebuild (who and what work done) as it's top wack for the ages/mileage. Also check very closely for rust, jacking points rear arches etc.

MrC986

3,517 posts

192 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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nessiemac said:
That's the one I mentioned earlier.

Does this seem like a good buy?
IMO even with an engine rebuild, unless it's a Hartech engine rebuild, it's strong £s for the mileage and age given the time of year and the uncertainty with the economy. Much of the work would be considered normal wear and tear maintenance and whilst it gives peace of mind, there are cheaper similar mileage private sale cars on the market currently as much of the maintenance doesn't add mucj value.

Interestingly, the online MOT history check is thwarted by the fact the displayed registration is not accepted but the govt website although something like a Carvertical check might.

PS on a car of that miles/age you'd want to know that the suspension has been rebuilt as it's a fair bit of coin to do a full job i.e. top mounts etc. etc.

nessiemac

1,568 posts

242 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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MrC986 said:
nessiemac said:
That's the one I mentioned earlier.

Does this seem like a good buy?
IMO even with an engine rebuild, unless it's a Hartech engine rebuild, it's strong £s for the mileage and age given the time of year and the uncertainty with the economy. Much of the work would be considered normal wear and tear maintenance and whilst it gives peace of mind, there are cheaper similar mileage private sale cars on the market currently as much of the maintenance doesn't add mucj value.

Interestingly, the online MOT history check is thwarted by the fact the displayed registration is not accepted but the govt website although something like a Carvertical check might.

PS on a car of that miles/age you'd want to know that the suspension has been rebuilt as it's a fair bit of coin to do a full job i.e. top mounts etc. etc.
Thanks for the advice.

The ad does mention that

"Bilstein B4 shocks replaced, and M030 springs fitted, top mounts and ARB links"

He did mention that the front lower control arms probably need replacing at some point.

I have asked for for the full history on it to see exactly what has been done.

PaulGT3

375 posts

173 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-PORSCHE-BOXSTER-S-...

I really liked the look of this one until it mentioned there was no service history frown

jimmy p

960 posts

167 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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PaulGT3 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-PORSCHE-BOXSTER-S-...

I really liked the look of this one until it mentioned there was no service history frown
I agree with the seller, it will have some service history it's just a shame its lost. Price probably reflects this a little, may be worth a viewing a maybe a punt if its as nice as it looks

nessiemac

1,568 posts

242 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
Does look smart on those wheels. Would want to know the details of the engine rebuild (who and what work done) as it's top wack for the ages/mileage. Also check very closely for rust, jacking points rear arches etc.
Bit more info on the above car.

Engine was rebuilt by Revolution Porsche in Leeds? Reputable firm do you guys know?

There is a huge maintenance history with the car with most things been changed over the last few thousand miles.

I am waiting to hear back about the state of the chassis with regards corrosion etc.

jimmy p

960 posts

167 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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nessiemac said:
Bit more info on the above car.

Engine was rebuilt by Revolution Porsche in Leeds? Reputable firm do you guys know?

There is a huge maintenance history with the car with most things been changed over the last few thousand miles.

I am waiting to hear back about the state of the chassis with regards corrosion etc.
Revolution Porsche have a good reputation and wouldn't be overly surprised if they shipped some of the engine work out to Hartech, be worth investigating.

easy_rider33

153 posts

106 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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nessiemac said:
Bit more info on the above car.

Engine was rebuilt by Revolution Porsche in Leeds? Reputable firm do you guys know?

There is a huge maintenance history with the car with most things been changed over the last few thousand miles.

I am waiting to hear back about the state of the chassis with regards corrosion etc.
I use Revolution to do the big jobs on my 996 c4s. Excellent company and provide good service. They really do go above and beyond, even collected the car from the house as it wouldn’t go in gear. Fixed it in the garage and took it back to sort properly.

shalmaneser

5,939 posts

196 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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nessiemac said:
MrC986 said:
nessiemac said:
That's the one I mentioned earlier.

Does this seem like a good buy?
IMO even with an engine rebuild, unless it's a Hartech engine rebuild, it's strong £s for the mileage and age given the time of year and the uncertainty with the economy. Much of the work would be considered normal wear and tear maintenance and whilst it gives peace of mind, there are cheaper similar mileage private sale cars on the market currently as much of the maintenance doesn't add mucj value.

Interestingly, the online MOT history check is thwarted by the fact the displayed registration is not accepted but the govt website although something like a Carvertical check might.

PS on a car of that miles/age you'd want to know that the suspension has been rebuilt as it's a fair bit of coin to do a full job i.e. top mounts etc. etc.
Thanks for the advice.

The ad does mention that

"Bilstein B4 shocks replaced, and M030 springs fitted, top mounts and ARB links"

He did mention that the front lower control arms probably need replacing at some point.

I have asked for for the full history on it to see exactly what has been done.
'probably need doing' = definitely need doing

Not a huge job though especially if they have done the other bits then presumably the drop links are not seized in the hub carrier. Once you've done them the suspension should be A1 given all the other bits.

Smollet

10,719 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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nessiemac said:
Bit more info on the above car.

Engine was rebuilt by Revolution Porsche in Leeds? Reputable firm do you guys know?

There is a huge maintenance history with the car with most things been changed over the last few thousand miles.

I am waiting to hear back about the state of the chassis with regards corrosion etc.

It sometimes comes across on various platforms that the only trustworthy engine builder is Hartec and all others aren’t worth a nod. This is just guff. Hartec are excellent but then so are many others

ooid

4,142 posts

101 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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nessiemac said:
Bit more info on the above car.

Engine was rebuilt by Revolution Porsche in Leeds? Reputable firm do you guys know?
I would guess many engine builders in UK now doing a much better job than the Porsche itself when they first initially built these engines laugh, judging by the amount of them done so far. Many of them provides at least 1 year warranty (or they used to), so if its still underwarranty is quite good. You can just do an oil inspection quickly to see but I guess it should be OK