I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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paulguitar

24,174 posts

115 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Office_Monkey said:
The only comparison I have is a passenger ride at Snetterton in a GT3 which was v v fast. Am trying to get on with the Cayman and hopefully spin less than when I was in my MR2!

For the road the base car has been fine, great in the twisty bits, am not interested in going as fast as possible either smile
I recently got a 2.7 and I am more and more pleased with my decision to go in that direction. Aside from not having to really worry as much about certain mechanical issues, the 2.7 is wonderfully calibrated for real-world UK roads. You can have a lot of fun without getting to stupid speeds.



TheOctaneAddict

785 posts

49 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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deutsche.diagnostics said:
But I was thinking a base 2.7 981, and going manual again rather than PDK, so it is still a bit of an effort to keep the speed up.

I will probably end up with a 997.2 or 991 in the end, but I really enjoyed the base Cayman, I liked the fact that it wasn't "power on tap" if that makes sense?
I've recently just bought a 981 2.7 Manual and i bloody love it. Some more info on my site if you want to know how i've got on - https://www.theoctaneaddict.com/

I went for the 2.7 as you really have to drive it to get the performance out of it. Its not really got anything below 4500rpm, but above that it wakes up and makes a ludicrous noise.

I highly recommend.

Patrick Bateman

12,231 posts

176 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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I found similar in my 987 2.7 Boxster, 4500rpm and upwards is where you needed to be for decent shove. It loved to do it though, I do miss it.


2Btoo

3,455 posts

205 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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ATM said:
Wowsers.

That deserves more comment on here. Is that the same engine that the guy on here fitted into the back of a 986 Box? And then later into another Box when the first one caught fire?

ATM

18,482 posts

221 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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2Btoo said:
ATM said:
Wowsers.

That deserves more comment on here. Is that the same engine that the guy on here fitted into the back of a 986 Box? And then later into another Box when the first one caught fire?
No that was a 2.7 v6 twin turbo

This is a simpler v8 4.2

torqueofthedevil

2,083 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Never driven a Porsche but the missus wants one - probably around 12-15k, convertible.

I suspect this will be a boxster but maybe some others would fit the bill.

I want it to be a good drive but also fairly economical - It’s swapping a 2.8 z3 that is surprisingly economical so would be good to get similar economy (not measured it but it must be around 30mpg on a run).

Noted from this thread that there’s a lot of other things to consider such as engine concerns and wheel sizes etc so any advice on this too would be helpful.

paulguitar

24,174 posts

115 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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torqueofthedevil said:
Never driven a Porsche but the missus wants one - probably around 12-15k, convertible.

I suspect this will be a boxster but maybe some others would fit the bill.

I want it to be a good drive but also fairly economical - It’s swapping a 2.8 z3 that is surprisingly economical so would be good to get similar economy (not measured it but it must be around 30mpg on a run).

Noted from this thread that there’s a lot of other things to consider such as engine concerns and wheel sizes etc so any advice on this too would be helpful.
I'd strongly recommend a 987 Boxster 2.7. No worries over bore-scoring, and sensible MPG. I'm averaging 27ish and would easily expect better than 30 on a run.

They are superb fun to drive, sound wonderful, and are a perfect performance level for UK roads. In my opinion, 17-inch wheels with Pilot Sport tyres are the thing to have.



ooid

4,184 posts

102 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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torqueofthedevil said:
Never driven a Porsche but the missus wants one - probably around 12-15k, convertible.

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2.9 engine, post 2008.

torqueofthedevil

2,083 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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ooid said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Never driven a Porsche but the missus wants one - probably around 12-15k, convertible.

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2.9 engine, post 2008.
Wow they look great but seem around 5k more than an equivalent 2006 ish 2.7 any particular reason to go for that other than slightly newer and bigger engine?

paulguitar

24,174 posts

115 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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torqueofthedevil said:
ooid said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Never driven a Porsche but the missus wants one - probably around 12-15k, convertible.

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2.9 engine, post 2008.
Wow they look great but seem around 5k more than an equivalent 2006 ish 2.7 any particular reason to go for that other than slightly newer and bigger engine?
They don't have the potential issue associated with the IMS bearing. I'm not sure they are quite worth the premium though. There is a very good book you might want to read before buying one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Porsche-Boxster-Practical...

shalmaneser

5,952 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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torqueofthedevil said:
ooid said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Never driven a Porsche but the missus wants one - probably around 12-15k, convertible.

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2.9 engine, post 2008.
Wow they look great but seem around 5k more than an equivalent 2006 ish 2.7 any particular reason to go for that other than slightly newer and bigger engine?
Newer engine supposedly avoids the IMS and bore-score issues (although some examples of bore score are cropping up I believe). Early 2.7 much much less prone anyway. I think a later early car would get a 6 speed box as well which is nice.

Mainly avoids the tedious nature of IMS/RMS/Bore Score discussions when you try to sell.

danp

1,605 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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shalmaneser said:
Newer engine supposedly avoids the IMS and bore-score issues (although some examples of bore score are cropping up I believe). Early 2.7 much much less prone anyway. I think a later early car would get a 6 speed box as well which is nice.

Mainly avoids the tedious nature of IMS/RMS/Bore Score discussions when you try to sell.
6 speed is high tax tho, unless pre 3/2006.

paulguitar

24,174 posts

115 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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shalmaneser said:
Newer engine supposedly avoids the IMS and bore-score issues (although some examples of bore score are cropping up I believe). Early 2.7 much much less prone anyway. I think a later early car would get a 6 speed box as well which is nice.

Mainly avoids the tedious nature of IMS/RMS/Bore Score discussions when you try to sell.
Be aware though that some early Boxsters/Caymans fall into the £675 VED bracket. It's complicated, so best just to check each car from its registration. Mine is £395.

Smollet

10,834 posts

192 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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paulguitar said:
Be aware though that some early Boxsters/Caymans fall into the £675 VED bracket. It's complicated, so best just to check each car from its registration. Mine is £395.
That put me off buying a nice 987

deutsche.diagnostics

152 posts

15 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Something like this would be ideal, especially if you could get it for £15k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304276...

torqueofthedevil

2,083 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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deutsche.diagnostics said:
Something like this would be ideal, especially if you could get it for £15k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304276...
That’s stunning and low mileage - but what are the auto boxes like??

deutsche.diagnostics

152 posts

15 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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On the Gen 2 it is a PDK 'box, so very nice.

There are a few manuals out there in the 2.9 guise too.

I actually prefer Porsches with a manual, however, the 2.9 really does suit the PDK and it is one model I would have in either. Same with the base 981.


Patrick Bateman

12,231 posts

176 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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The only way I could see myself owning a Boxster with 2 pedals is if I fked my left foot/leg in some way. It's too good a driving experience to miss out on some heel and toe fun and there isn't enough outright grunt to make up for losing out on it.

Don't doubt the PDK is objectively excellent but I would never consider it in normal circumstances.

deutsche.diagnostics

152 posts

15 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I found the Cayman 2.9 was superb with the PDK, blipping it up and down to keep it on song surprised me how well it worked.

The gear shift on the manual 987 though is a joy, nicer the 997. Really does feel rifle bolt good. Oh, and really nice clutch weight too, very easy to use without ever feeling there is not enough weight.

Yeah, OK, I'm sold on manual too. biggrin

torqueofthedevil

2,083 posts

179 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I’ve found a 2006 2.7 with c. 25k miles or a 2009 2.9 with c. 45 miles

Both around £17k.

What would the consensus be between those?!

Thanks