A Singer is coming to England!!!
Discussion
monthefish said:
Wozy68 said:
g7jhp said:
Why should it fail Wozy68?
Surely it's a modified 964.
Clue.Surely it's a modified 964.
Well it would only cost a couple of quid to sort it ......
Mind you I could be wrong, I'm not a mechanic or MOT tester.
Saying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
IMIA said:
Funk said:
Stunning cars but I have one major criticism; surely having the fuel filler in the centre of the bonnet is asking for trouble with dents, scuffs and drips?
I'd want my filler somewhere I wouldn't be so likely to damage the paint!
they way the cars been specified i doubt it will get much use - can you imagine what a young lady in heels would do to the paint on the interior - i wouldn't let anyone else inside it lolI'd want my filler somewhere I wouldn't be so likely to damage the paint!
hopeydaze said:
Wozy68 said:
I'm not, just a bit of fun. I'm seeing what has been picked up before with me when MOTing a car. Its a very simple thing.
Saying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
I'll go with missing front number plateSaying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
Maybe it doesnt require it coming from the States, but I'd be suprised if that is the case.
Much prefer IMIAs thoughts. No rear fog light. That's surely got to be a fail.
Wozy68 said:
hopeydaze said:
Wozy68 said:
I'm not, just a bit of fun. I'm seeing what has been picked up before with me when MOTing a car. Its a very simple thing.
Saying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
I'll go with missing front number plateSaying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
Maybe it doesnt require it coming from the States, but I'd be suprised if that is the case.
Much prefer IMIAs thoughts. No rear fog light. That's surely got to be a fail.
But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
Hard-Drive said:
Steering wheel bolts. OCD fail. Just sayin'...
That is just terrible!!!!!!!!!!http://singervehicledesign.com/gallery/the-machine...
Streetrod said:
I think you find that the car is not an import. My understanding is that it’s a RHD British car that was shipped to the USA for the work to be done then shipped back here once completed. So the car will still have a UK registration and all the UK based documentation. Singer makes a point about the cars keeping their original history and mileage etc
But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
You are correct - it is a UK donor car which is shipped to US. It retains its original identity, and remains 'owned' by you while it is in the US having work done. As a result, there is no import duty when it comes back 'modified'. But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
You also do not have to pay California taxes if its being repatriated. You do, however, have to pay UK VAT on the value of work done in US, at applicable rate when it gets back to UK. So, 20% on top of Singer bill, but not on original donor car value.
I have one on order which will go into build later this year.
footsoldier said:
Streetrod said:
I think you find that the car is not an import. My understanding is that it’s a RHD British car that was shipped to the USA for the work to be done then shipped back here once completed. So the car will still have a UK registration and all the UK based documentation. Singer makes a point about the cars keeping their original history and mileage etc
But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
You are correct - it is a UK donor car which is shipped to US. It retains its original identity, and remains 'owned' by you while it is in the US having work done. As a result, there is no import duty when it comes back 'modified'. But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
You also do not have to pay California taxes if its being repatriated. You do, however, have to pay UK VAT on the value of work done in US, at applicable rate when it gets back to UK. So, 20% on top of Singer bill, but not on original donor car value.
I have one on order which will go into build later this year.
A quick question for you, do customs record the state of your car before you ship it and therefore are able to judge the changes when it comes back. Or do they rely on your honesty to tell them what has been done and produce receipts so allowing them to add VAT?
I'm not actually sure as I haven't shipped it over yet, as build starts late July earliest. (I paid deposit last year, and have place on the list with a build number and name designation.). Will update on progress as it happens...
I know that Singer invoice properly and in full, but not sure who's responsible for telling customs on the way back. Personally, I'm just going to bite the bullet and make sure all is done properly, but it's a big extra cost that has to be factored in.
They have a resource in UK now, who handles sourcing, shipping and after sales/servicing.
If you need any more, let me know, or just get in touch with Rob direct - very helpful and will happily chat through any questions at length!
I know that Singer invoice properly and in full, but not sure who's responsible for telling customs on the way back. Personally, I'm just going to bite the bullet and make sure all is done properly, but it's a big extra cost that has to be factored in.
They have a resource in UK now, who handles sourcing, shipping and after sales/servicing.
If you need any more, let me know, or just get in touch with Rob direct - very helpful and will happily chat through any questions at length!
Streetrod said:
Wozy68 said:
hopeydaze said:
Wozy68 said:
I'm not, just a bit of fun. I'm seeing what has been picked up before with me when MOTing a car. Its a very simple thing.
Saying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
I'll go with missing front number plateSaying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
Maybe it doesnt require it coming from the States, but I'd be suprised if that is the case.
Much prefer IMIAs thoughts. No rear fog light. That's surely got to be a fail.
But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
5517 said:
They're a tapered countersunk head, once they're tight, they're tight, and trying to tighten them further normally results in the hex drive getting butchered. I guess you could have the heads surface ground to remove the spec (but then you wouldn't know the tensile strength of material they were made from .......)Personally I'd be more put off by that painted interior, it's just doesn't work for me. Other dislikes ? The lack of heater and the frankly appalling choice of wheel finish.
Edit to add, I agree that gear lever gaiter grates rather.
Edited by Slippydiff on Friday 20th February 18:13
Streetrod said:
Wozy68 said:
hopeydaze said:
Wozy68 said:
I'm not, just a bit of fun. I'm seeing what has been picked up before with me when MOTing a car. Its a very simple thing.
Saying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
I'll go with missing front number plateSaying that, maybe cars from the States are allowed different criteria when importing.
Maybe it doesnt require it coming from the States, but I'd be suprised if that is the case.
Much prefer IMIAs thoughts. No rear fog light. That's surely got to be a fail.
But I do wonder what happens with regard to import duty. Let’s say the car was worth £50k when you shipped it to the states, it’s had let’s say $200k work of work done. Would you only be liable for import tax on the work done?
And just to complicate things a little more, your car would have to stay in America for at least 6 months during transformation. My understanding was that if you bought something in the US and kept it there for 6 months, it would then not be liable for import tax once shipped as you would have paid local US taxes on those parts or service. So in theory your shiny new Singer would not be liable for any import duty.
Could anyone clarify this please?
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