Cayman R - manual or PDK?
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On the flipside, my brother owns a PDK CR which I've had the pleasure of driving on numerous occasions. Whilst I admit to being a bit of a PDK fan (my 911 is PDK), I have to say that the gearbox does suit the car very well. His is used as a DD, and for that purpose I have to say I'd rather that than a manual.
IMHO it doesn't detract from the purpose of the car at all (it's got AC, PCM, buckets as well) and if anything let's you really lean on the chassis and suspension in a way that some drivers would not feel comfortable doing in a manual. Again, not slating the manual at all and I'm sure it's equally amazing, but to write off a CR with PDK doesn't do the car justice.
It's a different experience, but I don't think it harms the CR at all.
IMHO it doesn't detract from the purpose of the car at all (it's got AC, PCM, buckets as well) and if anything let's you really lean on the chassis and suspension in a way that some drivers would not feel comfortable doing in a manual. Again, not slating the manual at all and I'm sure it's equally amazing, but to write off a CR with PDK doesn't do the car justice.
It's a different experience, but I don't think it harms the CR at all.
Ekona said:
...if anything let's you really lean on the chassis and suspension in a way that some drivers would not feel comfortable doing in a manual...
I'm not sure that this makes a lot of sense. I really love leaning on the chassis in my manual and I'd have already selected the correct gear prior to really leaning on the chassis, so it's an odd comment.Ekona said:
It's a different experience, but I don't think it harms the CR at all.
Agreed. Different strokes for different folks.I had a Cayman S PDK for around a year and done about 12,000 miles of mixed town, motorway and country driving.
In my view, a 2-seater sports car with an automatic gearbox is a bit of a bizarre creature. I shouldn't be driving such a good car and thinking "Hmmm. Will be fun to drive this road in my wife's manual stbox for a change so I can nail the change down at this corner".
In my view, a 2-seater sports car with an automatic gearbox is a bit of a bizarre creature. I shouldn't be driving such a good car and thinking "Hmmm. Will be fun to drive this road in my wife's manual stbox for a change so I can nail the change down at this corner".
rudester said:
I've owned my Manual, with sports exhaust, buckets and ceramics for around 3 months now and it really is an addictive thing. Early morning blasts into North Wales have never been so fun.
I had PDK on the 981s I owned and felt that it really dumbed down the driving experience.
I'd recommend the Sport Shifter option if you can find one, or retro fit it. It really tightens up the gear shift feel.
Great choice in car Sir - I think that is the best spec Cayman R out there! (And I miss it terribly!)I had PDK on the 981s I owned and felt that it really dumbed down the driving experience.
I'd recommend the Sport Shifter option if you can find one, or retro fit it. It really tightens up the gear shift feel.
Looking after your GT3 - just had completely wrapped in the latest film.
Edited by R1nur on Thursday 14th August 11:15
ORD said:
I had a Cayman S PDK for around a year and done about 12,000 miles of mixed town, motorway and country driving.
In my view, a 2-seater sports car with an automatic gearbox is a bit of a bizarre creature. I shouldn't be driving such a good car and thinking "Hmmm. Will be fun to drive this road in my wife's manual stbox for a change so I can nail the change down at this corner".
if the Cayman had 450ps+, Porsche would have fitted PDK to all such cars. And of course a more dynamic PDK as in the 991 GT3.In my view, a 2-seater sports car with an automatic gearbox is a bit of a bizarre creature. I shouldn't be driving such a good car and thinking "Hmmm. Will be fun to drive this road in my wife's manual stbox for a change so I can nail the change down at this corner".
It's a bit like trying to decide what colour you like by asking other people what they like.
Surely you already have a preference or have tried both?
Predictably, you'll get some people who would only have a manual (and would therefore want you to follow them), and some who will only want PDK (who, again, would prefer that you confirm their decision by following them).
The R is a great car - I don't think you'd go wrong with either box.
Surely you already have a preference or have tried both?
Predictably, you'll get some people who would only have a manual (and would therefore want you to follow them), and some who will only want PDK (who, again, would prefer that you confirm their decision by following them).
The R is a great car - I don't think you'd go wrong with either box.
will_ said:
It's a bit like trying to decide what colour you like by asking other people what they like.
Surely you already have a preference or have tried both?
Predictably, you'll get some people who would only have a manual (and would therefore want you to follow them), and some who will only want PDK (who, again, would prefer that you confirm their decision by following them).
The R is a great car - I don't think you'd go wrong with either box.
My word of warning is that I was blown away by PDK and did not think through how I would feel about once the novelty wore off. I expect a lot of enthusiastic drivers would have the same experience - after a while, you really start to miss the manual change (assuming you enjoy changing gear in a good car).Surely you already have a preference or have tried both?
Predictably, you'll get some people who would only have a manual (and would therefore want you to follow them), and some who will only want PDK (who, again, would prefer that you confirm their decision by following them).
The R is a great car - I don't think you'd go wrong with either box.
R1nur said:
Great choice in car Sir - I think that is the best spec Cayman R out there! (And I miss it terribly!)
Looking after your GT3 - just had completely wrapped in the latest film.
Ha ha, yes i'm sure. I bet a drive out in the GT3 soon puts it out of your memory though!Looking after your GT3 - just had completely wrapped in the latest film.
Edited by R1nur on Thursday 14th August 11:15
anonymous said:
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You mean, it suits a manual box in your opinion, and that would be your preference.Unless you are suggesting that people can't have different preferences, which would be daft.
You may not like a pink S-class because that doesn't suit the "character" of the car either. Doesn't mean that no-one wants one.
I'm sure that the OP has his preference. If he gets a chance to try both, he might change his preferences.
ORD said:
My word of warning is that I was blown away by PDK and did not think through how I would feel about once the novelty wore off. I expect a lot of enthusiastic drivers would have the same experience - after a while, you really start to miss the manual change (assuming you enjoy changing gear in a good car).
Although for some, the novelty doesn't wear off - or if it does, it's always possible to sell the car.Each to their own - there is no right or wrong answer (just like colour preferences), the car sold in both guises almost equally so clearly there is demand for PDK.
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