Coolant

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BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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sleep envy said:
911wise said:
Conversley too much antifreeze is not helpfull for the engine either.


I ran a car on 100% coolant just to see what it would do

The bugger would never get properly up to temp

And that's why you're not allowed a wasserpumper

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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BliarOut said:
sleep envy said:
911wise said:
Conversley too much antifreeze is not helpfull for the engine either.


I ran a car on 100% coolant just to see what it would do

The bugger would never get properly up to temp

And that's why you're not allowed a wasserpumper


amen brother!

Globulator

13,841 posts

233 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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Fidgits said:
Okay,

after my 'coolant' experience over the weekend, my header tank is pretty much gone from min to max with water..

Now, should I be adding some sort of coolant to this mixture? Do I need to get it from Porsche, or can i pick something up from halfrauds?
Just don't leave it all water in case we get a severe freeze, which may pop the tank.

Fidgits

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17,202 posts

231 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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Globulator said:
Fidgits said:
Okay,

after my 'coolant' experience over the weekend, my header tank is pretty much gone from min to max with water..

Now, should I be adding some sort of coolant to this mixture? Do I need to get it from Porsche, or can i pick something up from halfrauds?
Just don't leave it all water in case we get a severe freeze, which may pop the tank.

it isnt all water - id say i probably filled under half with water...

the cars in a garage, and id hope to get the coolant before i take it out again!

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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How much water (distilled I hope) did you actually put in Fidg? Can't have been much more than a cupful surely?

Fidgits

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17,202 posts

231 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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BliarOut said:
How much water (distilled I hope) did you actually put in Fidg? Can't have been much more than a cupful surely?

erm.

well, if you read my 'other' thread, i had somewhat of a mishap... as such, i probably had to put something like 1/3rd to 1/2 of the tank in...

'filtered' water... paperbag

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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Fidgits said:
BliarOut said:
How much water (distilled I hope) did you actually put in Fidg? Can't have been much more than a cupful surely?

erm.

well, if you read my 'other' thread, i had somewhat of a mishap... as such, i probably had to put something like 1/3rd to 1/2 of the tank in...

'filtered' water... paperbag

As long as it isn't hard water..... Boggo tap water will do the engine no good in the long term. You must have an idea how much you had to put in to get the level back up, I would just add neat concentrate as and when you get it to get the ratio right.

If it's hard water in there then a drain/refill might be in order.

Fidgits

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17,202 posts

231 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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BliarOut said:
Fidgits said:
BliarOut said:
How much water (distilled I hope) did you actually put in Fidg? Can't have been much more than a cupful surely?

erm.

well, if you read my 'other' thread, i had somewhat of a mishap... as such, i probably had to put something like 1/3rd to 1/2 of the tank in...

'filtered' water... paperbag

As long as it isn't hard water..... Boggo tap water will do the engine no good in the long term. You must have an idea how much you had to put in to get the level back up, I would just add neat concentrate as and when you get it to get the ratio right.

If it's hard water in there then a drain/refill might be in order.

well, its hard water, but it all went through a bloody expensive Brita filter...

if thats not enough, perhaps i should call my local indy and see if they'll do me a drain/refill?

edited to add: Any idea what that'll set me back?


Edited by Fidgits on Monday 15th January 18:31

Globulator

13,841 posts

233 months

Monday 15th January 2007
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BliarOut said:

As long as it isn't hard water..... Boggo tap water will do the engine no good in the long term. You must have an idea how much you had to put in to get the level back up, I would just add neat concentrate as and when you get it to get the ratio right.

If it's hard water in there then a drain/refill might be in order.
I always use rainwater as there always seems to be loads at hand, but I thought that anti-freeze has additives to take care of any water hardness regardless - shirley this is the case?

Fidgits

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17,202 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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yikes

Just called my local indy.

He 'stated' that the coolant needs 11 litres of the coolant with a small amount of water, and an hours labour.

So his price for draining and refilling the coolant was 128.66 yikes

I was expecting 50-60 quid max... can anyone comment on the above price - is this right?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Fidg - check the owners manual or phone another indy

I'm not sure about the mix he said as too much coolant isn't good - I've always thought a 50:50 mix was appropriate

911wise

1,867 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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I have done this on several cars of my own and it takes 10-15 mins. Never done it on a Porsche but cant imagine its much different. I suppose garage will charge a hours rate whether it takes 10 min or 58 min. Dont know the capacity of the cooling system but 11 litres of coolant sounds high.

Fidgits

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17,202 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Cheers Envy,

Apparantly the coolant tank is 22.5 litres (according to Porsche club GB), so 11 is about right for 50:50

However, I added somewhere in the region of 1 litre of water, so if the capacity is 22.5 litres, I wont have diluted it that much, and i can simply 'top it up'.

I'm loathe to pay that much money just incase the tank does have a crack, and then get a 400 quid bill, plus the 128 again to fill..

I'll have a nosey at my local Halfrauds, see if they have anything appropriate for the porsche.

911wise

1,867 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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If its only a litre I wouldn't worry, thats less than 5%. Amazing how a system needs 22 litres thats like 11 big bottles of coke (diet coke)! Where does it all go?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Rads at the front plus two water jackets soon swallows a lot of water. That's why I initially said one litre will hardly alter the ratio. I think I'm right in saying you can have the specific gravity measured and that'll tell you the actual ratio and whether you need to add any concentrate.

Fidgits

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17,202 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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banghead well, the daily decided to play up again, so this week is not a week for the cars..

Halfrauds was undergoing refurbishment (obviously wasnt 'max power' enough), so no hope there!

garyjones1962

402 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Fidgits said:
Cheers Envy,

Apparantly the coolant tank is 22.5 litres (according to Porsche club GB), so 11 is about right for 50:50

However, I added somewhere in the region of 1 litre of water, so if the capacity is 22.5 litres, I wont have diluted it that much, and i can simply 'top it up'.

I'm loathe to pay that much money just incase the tank does have a crack, and then get a 400 quid bill, plus the 128 again to fill..

I'll have a nosey at my local Halfrauds, see if they have anything appropriate for the porsche.


Yep - I had to put 2 litres in mine (long story)...and it was just plain old tap water (as advised by Swindon OPC) Have added about 1.5 litres of coolant since so should be OK again

Fidgits

Original Poster:

17,202 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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garyjones1962 said:
Fidgits said:
Cheers Envy,

Apparantly the coolant tank is 22.5 litres (according to Porsche club GB), so 11 is about right for 50:50

However, I added somewhere in the region of 1 litre of water, so if the capacity is 22.5 litres, I wont have diluted it that much, and i can simply 'top it up'.

I'm loathe to pay that much money just incase the tank does have a crack, and then get a 400 quid bill, plus the 128 again to fill..

I'll have a nosey at my local Halfrauds, see if they have anything appropriate for the porsche.


Yep - I had to put 2 litres in mine (long story)...and it was just plain old tap water (as advised by Swindon OPC) Have added about 1.5 litres of coolant since so should be OK again


huh.. okay.

Swindon is my local OPC too, so that sounds okay... i'll get some coolant when i can and top her up with 1/2 to 1 litre and it should be fine...