997 Turbo upgrade to 9e 28 by Nine Excellence (pic heavy)

[IMI A]

My son was less than one when I took delivery new. Pic of me and him shortly after delivery. This car going to him as he didn't want me to sell. He loves black



I'm defo happy with black if PCO/Reading promise me a piano finish which is surely possible on repaint from a proper quality team of restorers? Love black just look at it.

[Slippydiff]

IMI A said:

I agree I love special colours so not an issue at all.

Few more I've seen the signal? green at Porsche Hatfield 21. Lovely 911.



Love Lambo version of Rubystone in met pearly purple pinky.

Awesome photos I !! Oh hold on a second ...



So after all this debate, you're going with dull as ditchwater black I ? That's a shame. A real shame.

[IMI A]

I don't think I said that anywhere?

[Slippydiff]

IMI A said:

I don't think I said that anywhere?

I think putting the decision in the hands of the paintshop is tantamount to doing as much I.
If they're quiet, they "may" do a colour change, if they're busy, I'd wager it'll remain black ...

FWIW (and I appreciate it's not my car) I think you're missing out on the opportunity to make it into something truly unique. For many the idea of a colour change is completely verboten, I think the fact you're NOT in that camp, is brilliant. So have the courage of your convictions and make the most of it

[Slippydiff]

IMI A said:

When I contacted OPC Reading re colour change they put me in touch with their own skunk works team who only look after 918, CGT and projects like this. They made it clear at outset Porsche AG may not agree to a colour change and we may have to stick with black which is definitely not a problem for me. They did Woppum's GT3 RS to burnt orange to match his P1. I've seen the work its top class

So does Woppum's car not set a precedent in such matters ?

[IMI A]

Slippydiff said:

IMI A said:

I don't think I said that anywhere?

I think putting the decision in the hands of the paintshop is tantamount to doing as much I.
If they're quiet, they "may" do a colour change, if they're busy, I'd wager it'll remain black ...

FWIW (and I appreciate it's not my car) I think you're missing out on the opportunity to make it into something truly unique. For many the idea of a colour change is completely verboten, I think the fact you're NOT in that camp, is brilliant. So have the courage of your convictions and make the most of it

If I really did that I would have a pink car for sure as 9e like Rubystar. Kens negotiating it with Muriel who leads their VIP team. Lets hope they are not busy but in terms of scope I am definitely looking for quality rather than just a colour change after my last experience. So far very happy.

[IMI A]

Slippydiff said:

IMI A said:

When I contacted OPC Reading re colour change they put me in touch with their own skunk works team who only look after 918, CGT and projects like this. They made it clear at outset Porsche AG may not agree to a colour change and we may have to stick with black which is definitely not a problem for me. They did Woppum's GT3 RS to burnt orange to match his P1. I've seen the work its top class

So does Woppum's car not set a precedent in such matters ?

As long as Porsche AG agree simply not an issue. Its not work shop time as I don't care when I get the car back as long as its perfect this time.

[Slippydiff]

TB993tt said:

Getting someone else to choose your paint colour is however totally nuts

Missed this.

Toby. Spot on.

[IMI A]

Slippydiff said:

TB993tt said:

Getting someone else to choose your paint colour is however totally nuts

Missed this.

Toby. Spot on.

Tongue and cheek H - I've given them my top 3 colours but simply don't have time to speak to Reading/PCO etc

[IMI A]

Have you been on the sauce during the afternoon? Right I better go and have a glass of something myself! Finished for day

[Slippydiff]

I doubt they'll allow you paint it in the original Rubystone colour.
Somewhere on my PC I've got images of the only Rubystone Mk1 996 GT3 ever painted in that hue by the factory. It has a backstory, and the best summation is, the factory are very protective of that particular hue and what cars they allow it on...

Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 19th October 18:04

[Slippydiff]

IMI A said:

Have you been on the sauce during the afternoon? Right I better go and have a glass of something myself! Finished for day

No sauce here !! Just wouldn't want you missing out on the all too rare opportunity to make the car into something truly and wonderfully unique.
If there were a dearth of fantastic factory hues available, the decision to go with the original colour would make sense , but there's a myriad of amazing hues to choose from !!

[IMI A]

Slippydiff said:

I doubt they'll allow you paint it in the original Rubystone colour.
Somewhere on my PC I've got images of the only Rubystone Mk1 996 GT3 ever painted in that hue by the factory. It has a backstory, and the best summation is, the factory are very protective of that particular hue and what car's it's allowed on...

You see now even you're acting like Porsche AG. 100% on colour change! Thats why I gave them 3 historic colours I thought maybe it helps! GT3 is porn my current fave car.

[80sMatchbox]

I love black cars, it works on just about any car to me, but I would love this to be redone in one of those bold primary colours.

[IMI A]

It does look wonderful but out of all the colours on this thread its definitely the most understated. Really hides all the aggression. Black was the real 997 GT2's launch colour funnily enough odd colour to launch it in IMO.

[Slippydiff]

IMI A said:

You see now even you're acting like Porsche AG. 100% on colour change! Thats why I gave them 3 historic colours I thought maybe it helps!

No, I'm just telling you that they're protective of Rubystone (and a bit like your engine warranty debacle, it meant getting ugly and ultimately legal with them (the factory) to get that 996 GT3 painted in Rubystone)

Which begs the question : Being as they tried to bend you over and shaft you over the engine warranty, why the allegiance to them ?? They'd have shafted you to the tune of what £30-40K plus ? If you hadn't stood your ground. You owe them nothing.

Your having to dance their tune because you're electing to have the car painted by Porsche AG's elected UK agent. Walk away from that scenario and you can paint it any colour you want !!

I appreciate you're busy and time is money, but there must be a numerous superb paintshops across the UK that could do a better job than Reading. What they're doing isn't rocket science, and with your "I'm willing to pay for the right/best job" attitude, I've no doubt you could find better.

Mark (can't remember his surname) Clowes who used to partner Colin at 9M has set up his own bodyshop. Now there's a man with attention to detail when it comes to paint, that very few can match ...

Edit to add Mark's surname, an image of one of his 993 Speedster conversions and his company's website link ...




https://www.mlrporsche.com/

Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 19th October 18:34

[IMI A]

No allegiance but Porsche GB grovelled and gave me a new engine as soon as I set my lawyers on them Lets see what PCO say. If not you can find me the finest painter in the land

[Slippydiff]

IMI A said:

No allegiance but Porsche GB grovelled and gave me a new engine as soon as I set my lawyers on them Lets see what PCO say. If not you can find me the finest painter in the land

Funny that

All joking aside, Mark Clowes, he's your man. He's as anal as they come, really knows his stuff when it comes to paint and pulling Pork apart/rebuilding it.

[guyvert1]

IMI A said:

You see now even you're acting like Porsche AG. 100% on colour change! Thats why I gave them 3 historic colours I thought maybe it helps! GT3 is porn my current fave car.

Come on , do tell, what three historic colours ?

[IMI A]

I've had all these recommended too Slippy. I met the guys at PCO though and liked them. Agree if Porsche AG make a fuss we can shop around.

https://www.gtrmotorsport.com

https://www.rivieraautobody.co.uk

https://slrestoration.co.uk