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HoHoHo said:
That’s me.
I went from an F10 M5 to an X5 50d to and F90 M5 to a 4S Cross Turismo to a GTS Soort Turismo, you’ve got a good memory!
I’ve not posted much at all for a couple of years. Covid shut my business down and I was hit pretty hard mentally.
I kept going during the 18 months we were shut down starting two new successful ventures but I needed a break from PH and other social media, at the time my attitude would have been seen as someone who thought the cure was worse than the disease!
I’m now here probably annoying non-Taycan owners who wish I’d F-Off back where I came from![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
Good to hear you are doing OK again now. I went from an F10 M5 to an X5 50d to and F90 M5 to a 4S Cross Turismo to a GTS Soort Turismo, you’ve got a good memory!
I’ve not posted much at all for a couple of years. Covid shut my business down and I was hit pretty hard mentally.
I kept going during the 18 months we were shut down starting two new successful ventures but I needed a break from PH and other social media, at the time my attitude would have been seen as someone who thought the cure was worse than the disease!
I’m now here probably annoying non-Taycan owners who wish I’d F-Off back where I came from
![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
I was in the same position too. Cost me a quarter of a million in savings and loans. Shocking handling of the whole thing and worse was how so many just thought we should not moan about it.
Ed.Neumann said:
HoHoHo said:
That’s me.
I went from an F10 M5 to an X5 50d to and F90 M5 to a 4S Cross Turismo to a GTS Soort Turismo, you’ve got a good memory!
I’ve not posted much at all for a couple of years. Covid shut my business down and I was hit pretty hard mentally.
I kept going during the 18 months we were shut down starting two new successful ventures but I needed a break from PH and other social media, at the time my attitude would have been seen as someone who thought the cure was worse than the disease!
I’m now here probably annoying non-Taycan owners who wish I’d F-Off back where I came from![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
Good to hear you are doing OK again now. I went from an F10 M5 to an X5 50d to and F90 M5 to a 4S Cross Turismo to a GTS Soort Turismo, you’ve got a good memory!
I’ve not posted much at all for a couple of years. Covid shut my business down and I was hit pretty hard mentally.
I kept going during the 18 months we were shut down starting two new successful ventures but I needed a break from PH and other social media, at the time my attitude would have been seen as someone who thought the cure was worse than the disease!
I’m now here probably annoying non-Taycan owners who wish I’d F-Off back where I came from
![hehe](/inc/images/hehe.gif)
I was in the same position too. Cost me a quarter of a million in savings and loans. Shocking handling of the whole thing and worse was how so many just thought we should not moan about it.
Glad to be back
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GTS440 said:
finmac said:
Great post - thanks
Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
This is one of the reasons i sold my Taycan ST. Happened quite a lot and nothing to do with the car. Also, i'd happily let any ICE car run down to 10miles before refuelling, never in my Taycan, always left 30-40 miles range 'just in case'. Deduct that from the 200 mile real world range, less if you like to drive and use at least half of your circa 500HP and you have less than 160 miles range or 80 each way on a journey. Not enough and ruined the ownership experience for me.Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
DMC2 said:
GTS440 said:
finmac said:
Great post - thanks
Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
This is one of the reasons i sold my Taycan ST. Happened quite a lot and nothing to do with the car. Also, i'd happily let any ICE car run down to 10miles before refuelling, never in my Taycan, always left 30-40 miles range 'just in case'. Deduct that from the 200 mile real world range, less if you like to drive and use at least half of your circa 500HP and you have less than 160 miles range or 80 each way on a journey. Not enough and ruined the ownership experience for me.Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
Chemical Ali said:
DMC2 said:
GTS440 said:
finmac said:
Great post - thanks
Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
This is one of the reasons i sold my Taycan ST. Happened quite a lot and nothing to do with the car. Also, i'd happily let any ICE car run down to 10miles before refuelling, never in my Taycan, always left 30-40 miles range 'just in case'. Deduct that from the 200 mile real world range, less if you like to drive and use at least half of your circa 500HP and you have less than 160 miles range or 80 each way on a journey. Not enough and ruined the ownership experience for me.Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
HoHoHo said:
Who is asking you to convert to a EV?
I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
Not really pointed at you is it. Its more at the theme that we are being shepherded into a particular direction, taxes raised out our pocket and, as previous contributors have said, difficult charging network. Hence why so many taycans unsold.I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
And to answer your question who is asking - government, eu parliament etc.
Chemical Ali said:
HoHoHo said:
Who is asking you to convert to a EV?
I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
Not really pointed at you is it. Its more at the theme that we are being shepherded into a particular direction, taxes raised out our pocket and, as previous contributors have said, difficult charging network. Hence why so many taycans unsold.I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
And to answer your question who is asking - government, eu parliament etc.
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And I agree with you, it’s being forced upon the motoring population. I know my car won’t save the planet but it does reduce my motoring costs significantly given it’s a company car and virtually free to me.
HoHoHo said:
Who is asking you to convert to a EV?
I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
No one is asking you to change to an EV, the government and local councils are just taxing you heavily if you don't.I think the discussion has been interesting and my post was simply sharing my thoughts and experiences, is that a problem?
I'm yet to have an EV but open to hearing about them I certainly don't have fingers in ears. We would have been on for a Macan but with growing kids we decided to go Cayenne this time. EV would work for the Mrs a charge a week would do her. The depreciation for me would come into it even offsetting through the business of we were day making a business decision about it.
For me as a business user I need towing capability and we're nowhere near even starting to have infrastructure for recharging vans and trailers anywhere. Plus I would have the charging times spare in a day. Latest vans have 150 mile range which is a none starter for hacking up and down the country
For me as a business user I need towing capability and we're nowhere near even starting to have infrastructure for recharging vans and trailers anywhere. Plus I would have the charging times spare in a day. Latest vans have 150 mile range which is a none starter for hacking up and down the country
HoHoHo said:
Hear what you say but let me answer some of you observations:
Let’s take my Taycan GTS v My wife’s 2020 Cayenne S as examples (even more of the questions would be a no if we were comparing say a 911 v my car)
Can the car fit 4 adults comfortably?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
What is the engine size/bhp?
Mine - 79kwh usable, 2 motors, 2 gears (auto) 590bhp + overboost
Cayenne - 3.2 V6 - 335bhp
0-60 times?
Mine - about 3.4 seconds
Cayenne - about 5.5 seconds
0-150mph?
Mine - 15.2*
Cayenne - Forever (if it gets there at all)
Mine - has a funky sound package that sounds OK (but it ain’t no V8!)
Cayenne - sounds better from the outside than inside!
Cost to fill up?
Mine - £23.70 (could be as low as £5.50 if I got myself onto a 7p overnight tariff)
Cayenne - £130.00 )based on £1.45/ltr
Caveat here - I fill mine at work so it actually costs me £0 to run the car aside from the odd fill-up over Christmas or Easter.
Miles per gallon?
Mine - (based on and average 225/tank) 62mpg (better on a run)
Cayenne - 20mpg (better on a run)
Does the car tell you where a petrol station is on the PCM?
Mine - Yes
Cayenne - yes
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are at the station on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are operational and being used on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Is the car good fun to drive?
Mine - absolutely, it defies the laws of physics for such a large heavy car and you can have a blast which interestingly doesn’t seem to affect the range to much
Cayenne - drives pretty well to be honest, I wouldn’t get out of bed to have an early morning drive
Can you pay by card to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you pay with an app to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can the app be temperamental at times when you fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you simply plug the car into a fuel source and it recognises the car and starts to charge/fill up so no credit cards/cash or apps required?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Please take this post a bit tongue in cheek albeit they are honest answers from myself. I am a massive petrolhead and have been swayed to the dark side simply because of the current BIK rates (I pay somewhere around £50/month for my car).
My conclusion is that generally those who post that EVs are more trouble than they are worth simply haven’t either used one in anger, have actually never owned one or simply prefer ICE (I’m not suggesting you are any of these or picking a fight with you!). EVs have their quirks for sure, the apps can be a bit fussy but once sorted are no more fussy than any petrol apps and lets be honest you need an app or card to pay for liquid fuel these days!
The technology used to pay for charging is getting better literally by the month. As I mentioned on some charging stations I don’t even need to get a card or an app out, the car is recognised during the protocol of discussion between the charger and the car once plugged in and bosh, off it goes. I called in on the A34 by Newbury the other day to get a drink (I didn’t need charge) to find 12 shiny brand new super-fast chargers there that weren’t there last time I dropped in, happy days. So I picked a charger, bought a drink, had a comfort break and the charger had added 150 miles in that timescale.
The PCM in the car is very clever and to be honest you don’t often fill up when you’re out and about. If you are 100 miles away from home and you have 60 miles left in the battery, the car will advise that you only add sufficient charge to get you home, that’s can take 3/5/9 minutes or whatever and then most people when they get home stick it on charge and it’s at 100% ready to go the following morning. The PCM as i say is very clever and I’ve only got super fast chargers in my search criteria so it’s not sending me on a wild goose chase or sending me to 7kw chargers which are too slow.
I love the car, I love the looks, I love the tech, I love the drive and I get it, I work with it rather than fight it and it causes me not a single problem or any range anxiety. I drive 15k+ miles PA to include Europe and if anything the tech in Europe is significantly more advanced than the UK so long trips are no problem whatsoever.
Anyway, just my reply and thoughts![beer](/inc/images/beer.gif)
you make a compelling case for them, but as i say it may work for you but not others!Let’s take my Taycan GTS v My wife’s 2020 Cayenne S as examples (even more of the questions would be a no if we were comparing say a 911 v my car)
Can the car fit 4 adults comfortably?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
What is the engine size/bhp?
Mine - 79kwh usable, 2 motors, 2 gears (auto) 590bhp + overboost
Cayenne - 3.2 V6 - 335bhp
0-60 times?
Mine - about 3.4 seconds
Cayenne - about 5.5 seconds
0-150mph?
Mine - 15.2*
Cayenne - Forever (if it gets there at all)
- my F90 M5 took 15.9 seconds and I thought that was fast!
Mine - has a funky sound package that sounds OK (but it ain’t no V8!)
Cayenne - sounds better from the outside than inside!
Cost to fill up?
Mine - £23.70 (could be as low as £5.50 if I got myself onto a 7p overnight tariff)
Cayenne - £130.00 )based on £1.45/ltr
Caveat here - I fill mine at work so it actually costs me £0 to run the car aside from the odd fill-up over Christmas or Easter.
Miles per gallon?
Mine - (based on and average 225/tank) 62mpg (better on a run)
Cayenne - 20mpg (better on a run)
Does the car tell you where a petrol station is on the PCM?
Mine - Yes
Cayenne - yes
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are at the station on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are operational and being used on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Is the car good fun to drive?
Mine - absolutely, it defies the laws of physics for such a large heavy car and you can have a blast which interestingly doesn’t seem to affect the range to much
Cayenne - drives pretty well to be honest, I wouldn’t get out of bed to have an early morning drive
Can you pay by card to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you pay with an app to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can the app be temperamental at times when you fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you simply plug the car into a fuel source and it recognises the car and starts to charge/fill up so no credit cards/cash or apps required?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Please take this post a bit tongue in cheek albeit they are honest answers from myself. I am a massive petrolhead and have been swayed to the dark side simply because of the current BIK rates (I pay somewhere around £50/month for my car).
My conclusion is that generally those who post that EVs are more trouble than they are worth simply haven’t either used one in anger, have actually never owned one or simply prefer ICE (I’m not suggesting you are any of these or picking a fight with you!). EVs have their quirks for sure, the apps can be a bit fussy but once sorted are no more fussy than any petrol apps and lets be honest you need an app or card to pay for liquid fuel these days!
The technology used to pay for charging is getting better literally by the month. As I mentioned on some charging stations I don’t even need to get a card or an app out, the car is recognised during the protocol of discussion between the charger and the car once plugged in and bosh, off it goes. I called in on the A34 by Newbury the other day to get a drink (I didn’t need charge) to find 12 shiny brand new super-fast chargers there that weren’t there last time I dropped in, happy days. So I picked a charger, bought a drink, had a comfort break and the charger had added 150 miles in that timescale.
The PCM in the car is very clever and to be honest you don’t often fill up when you’re out and about. If you are 100 miles away from home and you have 60 miles left in the battery, the car will advise that you only add sufficient charge to get you home, that’s can take 3/5/9 minutes or whatever and then most people when they get home stick it on charge and it’s at 100% ready to go the following morning. The PCM as i say is very clever and I’ve only got super fast chargers in my search criteria so it’s not sending me on a wild goose chase or sending me to 7kw chargers which are too slow.
I love the car, I love the looks, I love the tech, I love the drive and I get it, I work with it rather than fight it and it causes me not a single problem or any range anxiety. I drive 15k+ miles PA to include Europe and if anything the tech in Europe is significantly more advanced than the UK so long trips are no problem whatsoever.
Anyway, just my reply and thoughts
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Edited by HoHoHo on Saturday 20th January 16:09
Chemical Ali said:
Not really pointed at you is it. Its more at the theme that we are being shepherded into a particular direction, taxes raised out our pocket and, as previous contributors have said, difficult charging network. Hence why so many taycans unsold.
And to answer your question who is asking - government, eu parliament etc.
+1. imo there is 100% an agenda to push all into ev and control is the reason. for that reason alone i will avoid ev as a first choice for as long as is possible. fcs and fnwo.And to answer your question who is asking - government, eu parliament etc.
Youforreal. said:
So whats the numbers? Up or down?
Down, loads pre registered or passed to 3rd partys to sell, market is totally screwed, new 911's sat in stock for months.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312285...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401085...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309282...
discounted GTS anyone?
Edited by Gregmitchell on Sunday 21st January 19:31
Edited by Gregmitchell on Sunday 21st January 19:32
Edited by Gregmitchell on Sunday 21st January 19:35
DMC2 said:
GTS440 said:
finmac said:
Great post - thanks
Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
This is one of the reasons i sold my Taycan ST. Happened quite a lot and nothing to do with the car. Also, i'd happily let any ICE car run down to 10miles before refuelling, never in my Taycan, always left 30-40 miles range 'just in case'. Deduct that from the 200 mile real world range, less if you like to drive and use at least half of your circa 500HP and you have less than 160 miles range or 80 each way on a journey. Not enough and ruined the ownership experience for me.Interestingly, I stopped in my ICE car at a service station today while out for a drive. I parked opposite a row of smart chargers. Guy rocks up in a Black Taycan Turbo S with privacy and black rims - stunning looking car incidently (a real stealth bomber vibe!). It’s pouring rain so he gets out, opens a brolley and plugs it in and walks away, 5 min later he’s back as there’s clearly a problem, so he messes around then unplugs and backs the car out and into another different bay…. a bit of a faff but I guess mostly the chargers work ok when you rock up?
HoHoHo said:
Hear what you say but let me answer some of you observations:
Let’s take my Taycan GTS v My wife’s 2020 Cayenne S as examples (even more of the questions would be a no if we were comparing say a 911 v my car)
Can the car fit 4 adults comfortably?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
What is the engine size/bhp?
Mine - 79kwh usable, 2 motors, 2 gears (auto) 590bhp + overboost
Cayenne - 3.2 V6 - 335bhp
0-60 times?
Mine - about 3.4 seconds
Cayenne - about 5.5 seconds
0-150mph?
Mine - 15.2*
Cayenne - Forever (if it gets there at all)
Mine - has a funky sound package that sounds OK (but it ain’t no V8!)
Cayenne - sounds better from the outside than inside!
Cost to fill up?
Mine - £23.70 (could be as low as £5.50 if I got myself onto a 7p overnight tariff)
Cayenne - £130.00 )based on £1.45/ltr
Caveat here - I fill mine at work so it actually costs me £0 to run the car aside from the odd fill-up over Christmas or Easter.
Miles per gallon?
Mine - (based on and average 225/tank) 62mpg (better on a run)
Cayenne - 20mpg (better on a run)
Does the car tell you where a petrol station is on the PCM?
Mine - Yes
Cayenne - yes
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are at the station on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are operational and being used on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Is the car good fun to drive?
Mine - absolutely, it defies the laws of physics for such a large heavy car and you can have a blast which interestingly doesn’t seem to affect the range to much
Cayenne - drives pretty well to be honest, I wouldn’t get out of bed to have an early morning drive
Can you pay by card to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you pay with an app to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can the app be temperamental at times when you fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you simply plug the car into a fuel source and it recognises the car and starts to charge/fill up so no credit cards/cash or apps required?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Please take this post a bit tongue in cheek albeit they are honest answers from myself. I am a massive petrolhead and have been swayed to the dark side simply because of the current BIK rates (I pay somewhere around £50/month for my car).
My conclusion is that generally those who post that EVs are more trouble than they are worth simply haven’t either used one in anger, have actually never owned one or simply prefer ICE (I’m not suggesting you are any of these or picking a fight with you!). EVs have their quirks for sure, the apps can be a bit fussy but once sorted are no more fussy than any petrol apps and lets be honest you need an app or card to pay for liquid fuel these days!
The technology used to pay for charging is getting better literally by the month. As I mentioned on some charging stations I don’t even need to get a card or an app out, the car is recognised during the protocol of discussion between the charger and the car once plugged in and bosh, off it goes. I called in on the A34 by Newbury the other day to get a drink (I didn’t need charge) to find 12 shiny brand new super-fast chargers there that weren’t there last time I dropped in, happy days. So I picked a charger, bought a drink, had a comfort break and the charger had added 150 miles in that timescale.
The PCM in the car is very clever and to be honest you don’t often fill up when you’re out and about. If you are 100 miles away from home and you have 60 miles left in the battery, the car will advise that you only add sufficient charge to get you home, that’s can take 3/5/9 minutes or whatever and then most people when they get home stick it on charge and it’s at 100% ready to go the following morning. The PCM as i say is very clever and I’ve only got super fast chargers in my search criteria so it’s not sending me on a wild goose chase or sending me to 7kw chargers which are too slow.
I love the car, I love the looks, I love the tech, I love the drive and I get it, I work with it rather than fight it and it causes me not a single problem or any range anxiety. I drive 15k+ miles PA to include Europe and if anything the tech in Europe is significantly more advanced than the UK so long trips are no problem whatsoever.
Anyway, just my reply and thoughts![beer](/inc/images/beer.gif)
Can the car last a full winter without the heater breakingLet’s take my Taycan GTS v My wife’s 2020 Cayenne S as examples (even more of the questions would be a no if we were comparing say a 911 v my car)
Can the car fit 4 adults comfortably?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
What is the engine size/bhp?
Mine - 79kwh usable, 2 motors, 2 gears (auto) 590bhp + overboost
Cayenne - 3.2 V6 - 335bhp
0-60 times?
Mine - about 3.4 seconds
Cayenne - about 5.5 seconds
0-150mph?
Mine - 15.2*
Cayenne - Forever (if it gets there at all)
- my F90 M5 took 15.9 seconds and I thought that was fast!
Mine - has a funky sound package that sounds OK (but it ain’t no V8!)
Cayenne - sounds better from the outside than inside!
Cost to fill up?
Mine - £23.70 (could be as low as £5.50 if I got myself onto a 7p overnight tariff)
Cayenne - £130.00 )based on £1.45/ltr
Caveat here - I fill mine at work so it actually costs me £0 to run the car aside from the odd fill-up over Christmas or Easter.
Miles per gallon?
Mine - (based on and average 225/tank) 62mpg (better on a run)
Cayenne - 20mpg (better on a run)
Does the car tell you where a petrol station is on the PCM?
Mine - Yes
Cayenne - yes
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are at the station on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Does the car tell you how many pumps/chargers are operational and being used on the PCM?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Is the car good fun to drive?
Mine - absolutely, it defies the laws of physics for such a large heavy car and you can have a blast which interestingly doesn’t seem to affect the range to much
Cayenne - drives pretty well to be honest, I wouldn’t get out of bed to have an early morning drive
Can you pay by card to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you pay with an app to fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can the app be temperamental at times when you fill up?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - yes
Can you simply plug the car into a fuel source and it recognises the car and starts to charge/fill up so no credit cards/cash or apps required?
Mine - yes
Cayenne - no
Please take this post a bit tongue in cheek albeit they are honest answers from myself. I am a massive petrolhead and have been swayed to the dark side simply because of the current BIK rates (I pay somewhere around £50/month for my car).
My conclusion is that generally those who post that EVs are more trouble than they are worth simply haven’t either used one in anger, have actually never owned one or simply prefer ICE (I’m not suggesting you are any of these or picking a fight with you!). EVs have their quirks for sure, the apps can be a bit fussy but once sorted are no more fussy than any petrol apps and lets be honest you need an app or card to pay for liquid fuel these days!
The technology used to pay for charging is getting better literally by the month. As I mentioned on some charging stations I don’t even need to get a card or an app out, the car is recognised during the protocol of discussion between the charger and the car once plugged in and bosh, off it goes. I called in on the A34 by Newbury the other day to get a drink (I didn’t need charge) to find 12 shiny brand new super-fast chargers there that weren’t there last time I dropped in, happy days. So I picked a charger, bought a drink, had a comfort break and the charger had added 150 miles in that timescale.
The PCM in the car is very clever and to be honest you don’t often fill up when you’re out and about. If you are 100 miles away from home and you have 60 miles left in the battery, the car will advise that you only add sufficient charge to get you home, that’s can take 3/5/9 minutes or whatever and then most people when they get home stick it on charge and it’s at 100% ready to go the following morning. The PCM as i say is very clever and I’ve only got super fast chargers in my search criteria so it’s not sending me on a wild goose chase or sending me to 7kw chargers which are too slow.
I love the car, I love the looks, I love the tech, I love the drive and I get it, I work with it rather than fight it and it causes me not a single problem or any range anxiety. I drive 15k+ miles PA to include Europe and if anything the tech in Europe is significantly more advanced than the UK so long trips are no problem whatsoever.
Anyway, just my reply and thoughts
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Edited by HoHoHo on Saturday 20th January 16:09
911 Yes
Taycan No
Is the breaking inconsistent and lacks bite
911 No
Taycan Yes
Does the dashboard light up randomly like a Christmas tree
911 No
Taycan Yes
Does the car make a nice broom broom noise
911 Yes
Taycan no
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