My lovely 911 stolen last night

My lovely 911 stolen last night

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Adam B

27,387 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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num2uk said:
Adam B said:
that is very fair of them - could they argue that you deliberately undervalued your car to decrease premium, and therefore insurance was invalid as your car was more attractive to thieves than you declared?
I guess they could, if they thought I had undervalued the car at the time. When I took out the policy I had just purchased the car and I valued the car at the purchase price. The garage also backed me up on the rise of the market price of the model. It did take a bit of fighting, but I got the impression that the insurance company had a process for going through this type of fight.
I wasn't suggesting you willfully misled, and I am sure a lot have been caught out by recent rises in 911 prices (myself too), your valuation was very reasonable seeing as you just bought it. I suspect the clause is there for those who seek to mislead by a great margin.

I wonder how many 911 R buyers insured for £140k or the silly £600k they shot up to?

Esceptico

7,604 posts

110 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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citychap26 said:
The annoying thing is that one does not think about these things, in this day and age, It's just too simple to auto renew.

So ladies and gents, make sure that your car is insured for it true value. Thus far the only winner here is the c*nt criminal(s) who have nicked my lovely car. The police couldn't give a f*** and the insurance company are ducking and diving.
So true about it being too simple to auto-renew and also to forget to think about increases in value. Problem is, you only start thinking about it once you need to make a claim (by which time it is too late).

Not sure I agree about the police not caring. I think the truth is more that they are chronically underfunded and understaffed. They don't have the resources to provide the policing required and so trying to catch car thieves is probably on a very long list of things they would like to follow up but simply can't. From their perspective any time spent on such cases is likely a waste of time because they know they won't be able to spend time solving them. Massively frustrating if you are at the receiving end of course.

The Selfish Gene

5,522 posts

211 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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another thread running........where burglars (3) broke in to steal my 911 (997) on Wednesday.

The police in fairness were very motivated when there was a chance of getting them...........as I returned home mid robbery. Turned up on mass in a few minutes.

Then full forensics etc.

What I gleaned though, was there are many more much worse things happening pretty much simultaneously over hearing the radios.

The car hugely important to me, but nobody hurt etc.

Also Forensics person next day.............had come from something much much worse than an attempted robbery.

It's hard, but they just don't have the money.

monstro

88 posts

150 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Esceptico said:
Not sure I agree about the police not caring. I think the truth is more that they are chronically underfunded and understaffed. They don't have the resources to provide the policing required and so trying to catch car thieves is probably on a very long list of things they would like to follow up but simply can't. From their perspective any time spent on such cases is likely a waste of time because they know they won't be able to spend time solving them. Massively frustrating if you are at the receiving end of course.
Hmm, not sure the police are underfunded if they can afford to spend so much time harassing motorists and tracking down those who upset someone on line!

Adam B

27,387 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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monstro said:
Hmm, not sure the police are underfunded if they can afford to spend so much time harassing motorists
that helps the funding!

belfry

Original Poster:

959 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Now replaced with this beauty! 1982 34,000 miles totally rust free LHD

My insurance premium with Adrian Flux for the stolen orange 911 was about £450 per year. Who would like to guess what they've quoted for this one on similar terms? 10 points to the nearest guess.




Smollet

10,721 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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£450

The Selfish Gene

5,522 posts

211 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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1250

Biker's Nemesis

38,829 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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£2,100.68p.

DangerMonkey

587 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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£980.56

belfry

Original Poster:

959 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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My local broker (Norfolk) Adrian Flux's most competetive quote was


£3,250.00

"because of the theft". Apparently having your car stolen is your fault as they don't have anyone else to claim against. Makes a tracker look good value.

The Selfish Gene

5,522 posts

211 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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belfry said:
My local broker (Norfolk) Adrian Flux's most competetive quote was


£3,250.00

"because of the theft". Apparently having your car stolen is your fault as they don't have anyone else to claim against. Makes a tracker look good value.
wow - still kept on the roadside?

The Targa is beautiful though.

You really can't win can you with insurance.

Moikey Fortune

1,650 posts

237 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Nice replacement!

Did they just base the insurance premium on the engine capacity? hehe

belfry

Original Poster:

959 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Not on the roadside. In a locked garage.

The Selfish Gene

5,522 posts

211 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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belfry said:
Not on the roadside. In a locked garage.
double wow - did you lose your NCB in entirety?

Not sure who you use (sorry just spotted it's AF) - but I find Classic Line rather excellent - maybe for renewal time?

fluffekins

161 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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schmunk said:
I think you're misconstruing that clause - it says that the insurer should pay:

(amount insured for) / (actual value of insured property) * (loss)

In this case, the loss is 100% of the car's actual value (£45k), so the payout should be limited to (£20k) / (£45k) * (£45k) = £20k.

For a partial loss, the payout would be 20/45 of the actual loss of value.
You do not get average clauses on motor insurance policies.

MB140

4,108 posts

104 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
double wow - did you lose your NCB in entirety?

Not sure who you use (sorry just spotted it's AF) - but I find Classic Line rather excellent - maybe for renewal time?
Sorry selfish gene, I might be wrong here but I thought once you claimed for a total loss on a policy that policy was in effect terminated. the should leave the OP to take up a new policy with whoever he chooses.

I might be wrong not having much personal dealings with insurance companies (never claimed), just what I have gleaned from PH.

The Selfish Gene

5,522 posts

211 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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MB140 said:
The Selfish Gene said:
double wow - did you lose your NCB in entirety?

Not sure who you use (sorry just spotted it's AF) - but I find Classic Line rather excellent - maybe for renewal time?
Sorry selfish gene, I might be wrong here but I thought once you claimed for a total loss on a policy that policy was in effect terminated. the should leave the OP to take up a new policy with whoever he chooses.

I might be wrong not having much personal dealings with insurance companies (never claimed), just what I have gleaned from PH.
Oh I didn't know that either............fortunately never had a total loss etc. So does it follow, that even with a protected NCB - the total loss wipes that out?

Makes the thieving scum even more of a nightmare.

MB140

4,108 posts

104 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
MB140 said:
The Selfish Gene said:
double wow - did you lose your NCB in entirety?

Not sure who you use (sorry just spotted it's AF) - but I find Classic Line rather excellent - maybe for renewal time?
Sorry selfish gene, I might be wrong here but I thought once you claimed for a total loss on a policy that policy was in effect terminated. the should leave the OP to take up a new policy with whoever he chooses.

I might be wrong not having much personal dealings with insurance companies (never claimed), just what I have gleaned from PH.
Oh I didn't know that either............fortunately never had a total loss etc. So does it follow, that even with a protected NCB - the total loss wipes that out?

Makes the thieving scum even more of a nightmare.
Im not an insurance expert at all and I would imagine you would have to look at those sneaky t&c's quite closely. If you have protected no claims your entitled to make so many partial claims in so many years or so many total loss claims within so many years before it affects your NCB, of course even protecting your NCB they will still find a way to bend you over on the next policy you take out (often makes me wonder if its worth protecting your NCB but its generally not much to do.

Buggyjam

539 posts

80 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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That’s what Understand too. Although small I’m comparison I was told my windscreen claim could affect my premium next year despite my NCB being unaffected. It still counts as a claim in their eyes which pushes the premium up. Same with “no fault” claims, still can push it up, just not as much as at fault. If your NCB is unharmed you then get the discount from the premium. At least that’s how I think it works :/