My Caymans S 341BHp and 300Ft/lbs Torque.

[mrdemon]

Scott gets them from Porsche, but atm he gets all stock available as when you see the date stamp these thing are 1 to 2 months old max.
he also mods the chip inside the unit. so i dont think any one else can get the part.

Here is a pic of both parts together, plenum and throttle body

Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 5th May 09:40

[NoelWatson]

mrdemon said:

As for 997 C2S I think my car would be faster no contest (non DFi model)

Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 2nd May 23:12

Would be interested to find out. The 997 C2S tends to do around 170+ at VMax. There was a Cayman last week that apparently had 355bhp - it only got 165mph.

[tertius]

NoelWatson said:

mrdemon said:

As for 997 C2S I think my car would be faster no contest (non DFi model)

Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 2nd May 23:12

Would be interested to find out. The 997 C2S tends to do around 170+ at VMax. There was a Cayman last week that apparently had 355bhp - it only got 165mph.

Will need to be on the same day though - really hard to compare effectively between different days.

That seems pretty low for 355bhp in what I imagine to be a pretty slippery body. For comparison, my 300 bhp 993 has managed 163, I can't believe the Cayman is less aerodynamic than a 993.

[dom9]

mrdemon said:

Scott gets them from Porsche, but atm he gets all stock available as when you see the date stamp these thing are 1 to 2 months old max.
he also mods the chip inside the unit. so i dont think any one else can get the part.

Here is a pic of both parts together, plenum and throttle body

Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 5th May 09:40

Thanks MrD, that is what I was looking for...

Silly me, i forgot that the Cayman was eGas i.e. uses the electronic throttle as opposed to the cable throttle, like my early 996. Do you know if he has the same part (or similar) available for the cable mechanism? I might get in touch with him and ask. I assume this is Scott at Softronic we are talking about, huh?

Do you have the cost for those two parts?

Cheers,

Dom

[mrdemon]

Costs are in a kit which he does just for the Cayman with the map to match
If you dont by the kit from him he will not sell you a map.

Ofcourse you can buy the 2 items as a stock product one of them is £350 i forget the other price.

As for Vmax stuff that's all down to drag,wind etc I have a bigger rear spoiler on mine so will not be vmaxing at 170Mph.

I know the techart gt3 Style wing for the cayman loses 20Mph of top speed as an example.

But Vmax is a whole new ball game and not some thing i am interested in.
at 7000Rpm the max speed of a Cayman S is is 172Mph

[NoelWatson]

mrdemon said:

Costs are in a kit which he does just for the Cayman with the map to match
If you dont by the kit from him he will not sell you a map.

Ofcourse you can buy the 2 items as a stock product one of them is £350 i forget the other price.

As for Vmax stuff that's all down to drag,wind etc I have a bigger rear spoiler on mine so will not be vmaxing at 170Mph.

I know the techart gt3 Style wing for the cayman loses 20Mph of top speed as an example.

But Vmax is a whole new ball game and not some thing i am interested in.
at 7000Rpm the max speed of a Cayman S is is 172Mph

300lb ft of torque is very impressive from a 3.4, about the same as the 3.6 997 GT3 which has a compression ratio of 12 compared to the 11.1 of the Cayman.


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2081...

[dom9]

NoelWatson said:

300lb ft of torque is very impressive from a 3.4, about the same as the 3.6 997 GT3 which has a compression ratio of 12 compared to the 11.1 of the Cayman.


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2081...

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post... This engine now seems to be performing better than the GT3 engines, certainly in 996 form. Bearing in mind they presumably have more aggressive cam profiles, compression and port geometries, it 'feels' like these are high.

Yet again though, I am more than happy to be wrong, as opposed to just putting someone down! 88lb/ft of torque per litre is A LOT from a road engine, very efficient indeed.

[TOENHEEL]

dom9 said:

NoelWatson said:

300lb ft of torque is very impressive from a 3.4, about the same as the 3.6 997 GT3 which has a compression ratio of 12 compared to the 11.1 of the Cayman.


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2081...

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post... This engine now seems to be performing better than the GT3 engines, certainly in 996 form. Bearing in mind they presumably have more aggressive cam profiles, compression and port geometries, it 'feels' like these are high.

Yet again though, I am more than happy to be wrong, as opposed to just putting someone down! 88lb/ft of torque per litre is A LOT from a road engine, very efficient indeed.

It may be producing as much torque as the GT3 engine but i know which i would rather have. The GT3 lump is a much stronger basis. Not a fan of the standard porka engines after experiencing the nasty IMS failure. This is by no means knocking this tuning effort seems superb but i think if it was my money it would be better off in a GT3 from the start, residuals will be far better for the GT3 as well.

Edited by TOENHEEL on Tuesday 5th May 16:04

[Porkie]

TB993tt said:

mrdemon
As they say, you are "drinking the kool aid". Thinking that someone in the US with a chassis dyno and the brain the size of a house could know Motronic and its abilities/limitations better than the people who invented it stretches it a little

You really need to get your GPS logger fired up and run some numbers. stock 100-200kph is about 14s, if yours has 340 real hp it should come in under 11s (if you look at similar powered/weighted porsche on the site I linked)

I agree... and isn't Thorney the place that do alot of M3 CSL's? and always seem to get incredible BHP readings on just very basic mods?

[shamrock]

Porkie said:

TB993tt said:

mrdemon
As they say, you are "drinking the kool aid". Thinking that someone in the US with a chassis dyno and the brain the size of a house could know Motronic and its abilities/limitations better than the people who invented it stretches it a little

You really need to get your GPS logger fired up and run some numbers. stock 100-200kph is about 14s, if yours has 340 real hp it should come in under 11s (if you look at similar powered/weighted porsche on the site I linked)

I agree... and isn't Thorney the place that do alot of M3 CSL's? and always seem to get incredible BHP readings on just very basic mods?

Their graphs look very similar to the one provided by the OP, i.e. big jump in bhp, no ambient temperature data on graphs, etc.

Looks like another result for the hairdryer mod

[mrdemon]

Yes the gt3 is a nice car bar it's 10 years old.

I don't track the Cayman it's just a every day road car for me
Some people just like the Cayman for what it is, all I am saying is if you want/or already have a Cayman then spending 2k on it does transform it.

Forget about dyno results If you own or are in the market for a Cayman do what I and afew other have done, you will love it.

[TOENHEEL]

mrdemon said:

Yes the gt3 is a nice car bar it's 10 years old.

I don't track the Cayman it's just a every day road car for me
Some people just like the Cayman for what it is, all I am saying is if you want/or already have a Cayman then spending 2k on it does transform it.

Forget about dyno results If you own or are in the market for a Cayman do what I and afew other have done, you will love it.

10 years old? you can pick up a 996 GT3 mk2 for £42k on an 04 plate thats less than some people pay for a Cayman plus the fact that most GT3's are in mint condition as the majority have low mileage.

[mrdemon]

you cannot put a old car V a new car. ffs

A 3 year old Cayman is 25k a nice mk2 996 GT3 is 42k so not even in the same ball park cost wise.

Why are you on this thread again ?

If you want a GT3 V a new Cayman thread start one and fook off mine :-p

Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 5th May 20:38

[TOENHEEL]

mrdemon said:

you cannot put a old car V a new car. ffs

A 3 year old Cayman is 25k a nice mk2 996 GT3 is 42k so not even in the same ball park cost wise.

Why are you on this thread again ?

If you want a GT3 V a new Cayman thread start one :-p

Because it seems you want a GT3, you've got the nice stickers down the side of your cayman and now tuning the engine, why noy buy a GT3 in the first place??

[DJB321]

Without wishing to put words in mrdemon's mouth, presumably because he doesn't want a GT3. You've assumed he does, but as the old saying goes, assumption is the mother of all fsck ups. Anyway, enough of the voice of reason, feel free to carry on with the gratuitous abuse...

[TOENHEEL]

fooking hell, im just winding him up because he comes into the Lotus forum doing similar things..still i think if you want a good handling fast porsche which mr demon obviously does buy the real deal. You can give a cayman 600bhp its still never going to be a GT3 especially when it comes to internal engine components and how much money your going to lose.

[dom180]

TOENHEEL said:

fooking hell, im just winding him up because he comes into the Lotus forum doing similar things..still i think if you want a good handling fast porsche which mr demon obviously does buy the real deal. You can give a cayman 600bhp its still never going to be a GT3 especially when it comes to internal engine components and how much money your going to lose.

If I wanted inane diatrides, I'd logon to seloc, thanks.

[mrdemon]

A picture = 1000 words

I think the Cayman is a great looking car,
I need to get computers in it.
I like to go on holiday in it.
I like having something which is not just another off the peg car.
When I got it GT3's were 15k more expensive and still are.
I don't do track days any more. So no need for my Exige.
I like being faster than 911's in the ""poor mans Porsche"" :-p
It's a hobby and a one off looking car.

Yes I would not mind a GT3 for a laugh but atm it would not fit my needs.


As for this line "if you want a good handling fast porsche buy the real deal"

er I bought the best handling car Porsche make ;-)

Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 5th May 23:18

[TOENHEEL]

Looks nice mate

[Vixpy1]

mrdemon said:

Calling Surry rolling road and Charlie.

Did you not RR the "Yellow peril" to 360+Bhp ?

I am sure karel used you to test his car which was the 1st one done in the UK.

Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 3rd May 11:18

I'm not familiar with that car I'm afraid, well, I may have run it at some point, but not at its present level of tune.