The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

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jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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Just to add, also 'buyer beware' on collecting cars.

This car, was flagged on the last day of bidding as a CAT D. it shows the minimal levels of checks that they perform.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...

GT3Manthey

4,568 posts

51 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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jason61c said:
Just to add, also 'buyer beware' on collecting cars.

This car, was flagged on the last day of bidding as a CAT D. it shows the minimal levels of checks that they perform.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
The CatD status wasn’t added to the original listing ?

Wonder how it eventually got flagged…….

jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
jason61c said:
Just to add, also 'buyer beware' on collecting cars.

This car, was flagged on the last day of bidding as a CAT D. it shows the minimal levels of checks that they perform.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
The CatD status wasn’t added to the original listing ?

Wonder how it eventually got flagged…….
It was added on the last day, it shows on some basic checks.

GT3Manthey

4,568 posts

51 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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jason61c said:
It was added on the last day, it shows on some basic checks.
Sounds like there was also outstanding finance too

Edited by GT3Manthey on Friday 14th January 12:18

Slippydiff

14,944 posts

225 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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jason61c said:
Just to add, also 'buyer beware' on collecting cars.

This car, was flagged on the last day of bidding as a CAT D. it shows the minimal levels of checks that they perform.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
You appear to be suggesting they (CC) perform checks hehe

Well they do, but it's limited solely to whether your credit/debit card details are accepted before you register to bid ... smile

As I've said before, any CC auction must be viewed as Caveat Emptor, and the onus is on the individual bidding, to carry out the necessary due diligence.
That means physically inspecting the car prior to bidding, or indeed arranging an inspection by a sufficiently qualified third party. Do anything less and it's not an auction, it's a lottery/game of Russian roulette.

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
jason61c said:
Just to add, also 'buyer beware' on collecting cars.

This car, was flagged on the last day of bidding as a CAT D. it shows the minimal levels of checks that they perform.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
The CatD status wasn’t added to the original listing ?

Wonder how it eventually got flagged…….
It says on the advert that the car shows as clear on a CAP HPI check. It was an Experian check that had the correct data.

The advert has ended and the comments are no longer there. Did the seller know it was a write off? What if they had done a HPI check and were unaware themselves?


jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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Driver101 said:
GT3Manthey said:
jason61c said:
Just to add, also 'buyer beware' on collecting cars.

This car, was flagged on the last day of bidding as a CAT D. it shows the minimal levels of checks that they perform.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...
The CatD status wasn’t added to the original listing ?

Wonder how it eventually got flagged…….
It says on the advert that the car shows as clear on a CAP HPI check. It was an Experian check that had the correct data.

The advert has ended and the comments are no longer there. Did the seller know it was a write off? What if they had done a HPI check and were unaware themselves?
turns out the seller ended up presenting all the documents from autolign etc. on the last day of the auction

WojaWabbit

1,114 posts

220 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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Poor form from CC for not carrying out the correct checks and especially poor form from the seller if he was aware and deliberately attempting to conceal the history. Surprised it took so long to unearth though. CC should be checking everything through V-Check as part of their DD.

HPI and other vehicle check co's not picking up on past history appears to be an increasingly common issue. There's a Facebook page called Dodgy Cars that exposes cars for sale at dealerships that have passed the usual checks but have hidden histories, usually unrecorded damage. It's mainly midrange stuff like 3-Series, C-Class, Golf Rs, Range Rovers etc. but every now and then things like this creep up:

https://bit.ly/3fa1vc4

https://ibb.co/kKLLsR5

After the page posted the details, the dealer commented saying potential customers were informed during conversation, yet they neglected to include the information in the advert.

If you found out after you'd bought a car from a dealer you'd expect to be compensated, but I'd expect that would involve a lot of legal wrangling and associated costs. Buyer beware applies to every car purchase, you can't trust many who are in the game these days.


jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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WojaWabbit said:
Poor form from CC for not carrying out the correct checks and especially poor form from the seller if he was aware and deliberately attempting to conceal the history. Surprised it took so long to unearth though. CC should be checking everything through V-Check as part of their DD.

HPI and other vehicle check co's not picking up on past history appears to be an increasingly common issue. There's a Facebook page called Dodgy Cars that exposes cars for sale at dealerships that have passed the usual checks but have hidden histories, usually unrecorded damage. It's mainly midrange stuff like 3-Series, C-Class, Golf Rs, Range Rovers etc. but every now and then things like this creep up:

https://bit.ly/3fa1vc4

https://ibb.co/kKLLsR5

After the page posted the details, the dealer commented saying potential customers were informed during conversation, yet they neglected to include the information in the advert.

If you found out after you'd bought a car from a dealer you'd expect to be compensated, but I'd expect that would involve a lot of legal wrangling and associated costs. Buyer beware applies to every car purchase, you can't trust many who are in the game these days.
Very poor form. if you did agree to buy a car, its was then discovered to be a cat B/C/D/S etc etc, do collecting cars have to return their fee to you? or is it now just 'collection commission'?

Cheib

23,359 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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My memory must be going…could have sworn there were more posts in here earlier.

Nurburgsingh

5,149 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Cheib said:
My memory must be going…could have sworn there were more posts in here earlier.
Yours and mine both

Lol

“Shame shame you know no names”

BertBert

19,151 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Even my warning that posts would be deleted has been deleted.

So mods, how did my post contravene the posting rules?


It didn't did it?

Slippydiff

14,944 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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BertBert said:
Even my warning that posts would be deleted has been deleted.

So mods, how did my post contravene the posting rules?


It didn't did it?
Welcome to the Collecting Cars thread.
Move along please, there’s nothing to see here ... and if there was, it won’t be there for long hehe

Driver101

14,376 posts

123 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Why are the posts criticising cars sold on CC deemed as name and shame, but there is a thread dedicated to criticising eBay for allowing dodgy cars to be sold?

Mezzanine

9,298 posts

221 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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Driver101 said:
Why are the posts criticising cars sold on CC deemed as name and shame, but there is a thread dedicated to criticising eBay for allowing dodgy cars to be sold?
Reasons


wink

Digga

40,478 posts

285 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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tumbleweed

Slippydiff

14,944 posts

225 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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Driver101 said:
Why are the posts criticising cars sold on CC deemed as name and shame, but there is a thread dedicated to criticising eBay for allowing dodgy cars to be sold?
If you look back through this thread, you’ll find one of my posts that suggests why this may be the case smile

Drclarke

1,187 posts

175 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Anyone who has bought a car from Collecting Cars and relied on the HPI check should now be doing one of their very own. Prepare for some very upset buyers with cars with undeclared history.

Wilmslowboy

4,227 posts

208 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Drclarke said:
Anyone who has bought a car from Collecting Cars and relied on the HPI check should now be doing one of their very own. Prepare for some very upset buyers with cars with undeclared history.
I think in the case of the 993, the HPI check was clear.

The seller had paperwork detailing a previous repair (and the stolen recovered status). The history issues did, however, show up on Vcheck, therefore it suggests the issue lies with HPI and the seller, perhaps not much more CC could have done, (other than do two separate and different checks).





BertBert

19,151 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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I didn't know that CC did an HPI (or other vehicle) check.