GT car too much for the street
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Slippydiff said:
Some "daily" Steve. Glad it does what it says on the tin (provide thrills, rather than trying to kill you that is)
Well it’s about as hardcore as it gets but that’s why I bought it. It’s a distilled level of engagement that I really enjoy. On a gentle hoon my 964 is still the car that ticks all of the boxes but the 996 is bonkers. I drive that more The 996.2 headlights have grown on me. They look aggressive and different but still maintain the traditional round headlight vibe. TBH the 996.1 headlights with the awful orange indicators have also grown on me. This guy painted his standard 996 green and it works so well with the orange highlights: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThatNineElevenGuy/videos
I mean, it's a bit ballsy but it works. I guess you could also do black with orange indicators, and spray the wheels or just the hubs orange!?
I mean, it's a bit ballsy but it works. I guess you could also do black with orange indicators, and spray the wheels or just the hubs orange!?
Penguinracer said:
I agree that the 996 fried eggs are a grower, but I think they only really work with the more aggressive-looking Turbo & GT cars. On a vanilla C2/C4 they contribute to a blandness & shapelessness- the much maligned "bar of soap" smoothness which lacks tension, aggression or edge.
Haha "bar of soap" - yes, you're right, it lacks something but in its own way, the 996 bar of soap design has grown on me, too. But this is a thread about the GT cars so as you were. Edited by Hoofy on Friday 2nd July 10:57
Steve Rance said:
Slippydiff said:
Some "daily" Steve. Glad it does what it says on the tin (provide thrills, rather than trying to kill you that is)
Well it’s about as hardcore as it gets but that’s why I bought it. It’s a distilled level of engagement that I really enjoy. On a gentle hoon my 964 is still the car that ticks all of the boxes but the 996 is bonkers. I drive that more Thanks
BrotherMouzone said:
Remind me please Slippy/Steve, what’s the gearing on the Zanzibar? Is it 996 Cup, or 997.2 RS, or something else?
Thanks
It's fitted with a 996 R/RS/RSR transmission, with a Guard billet diff and 32:8 final drive. Lovely 'box, with ratios perfectly suited to the unrestricted Cup engine.Thanks
I toy with the idea of removing front diff which my indy do to most of their higher powered 911s then give myself a good slap when I remember the almost right angle slip angles 4wd has saved me from. On a slip road I hit diesel and sliding down the slip road looking at the road square on through my drivers window
Traction control saved me. It allows me 15 degree slip angle in sport is fine for me - even a 996 C2 or 986 S with no tc more than enough car for me all depends on skill level. That GT3 sounds fabulous. Slippy made a vid of the sound. Ridiculous maybe the best sounding engine out there this side of a CGT. Still the way a GT2 goes.....
Traction control saved me. It allows me 15 degree slip angle in sport is fine for me - even a 996 C2 or 986 S with no tc more than enough car for me all depends on skill level. That GT3 sounds fabulous. Slippy made a vid of the sound. Ridiculous maybe the best sounding engine out there this side of a CGT. Still the way a GT2 goes.....
Slippydiff said:
It's fitted with a 996 R/RS/RSR transmission, with a Guard billet diff and 32:8 final drive. Lovely 'box, with ratios perfectly suited to the unrestricted Cup engine.
The RSR ratios are pretty good for the road actually. long first and second and short from there on. Combined with the short final drive means that even long isn't long. Those who are unhappy with the gearing on modern GT cars should experience this car before making any changes. 470 bhp with that gearing and diff/ chasis set up make for a brutal, unforgiving but intensely rewarding car - but a dangerous one in the wrong hands Edited by Steve Rance on Saturday 3rd July 12:24
Steve Rance said:
Slippydiff said:
It's fitted with a 996 R/RS/RSR transmission, with a Guard billet diff and 32:8 final drive. Lovely 'box, with ratios perfectly suited to the unrestricted Cup engine.
The RSR ratios are pretty good for the road actually. long first and second and short from there on. Combined with the short final drive means that even long isn't long. Those who are unhappy with the gearing on modern GT cars should experience this car before making any changes. 470 bhp with that gearing and diff/ chasis set up make for a brutal, unforgiving but intensely rewarding car - but a dangerous one in the wrong handsNo doubt the short FD ratio and the closeness of the final four ratios plays to the engine's strengths, but I suspect there was also an element of Wayne's mapping trickery (and specifically the opening closing and phasing of the resonance flaps in the 997 4.0RS/Cup intake plenum) that made it feel almost like it was working more efficiently above 5500 rpm in the higher gears.
Slippydiff said:
Steve Rance said:
Slippydiff said:
It's fitted with a 996 R/RS/RSR transmission, with a Guard billet diff and 32:8 final drive. Lovely 'box, with ratios perfectly suited to the unrestricted Cup engine.
The RSR ratios are pretty good for the road actually. long first and second and short from there on. Combined with the short final drive means that even long isn't long. Those who are unhappy with the gearing on modern GT cars should experience this car before making any changes. 470 bhp with that gearing and diff/ chasis set up make for a brutal, unforgiving but intensely rewarding car - but a dangerous one in the wrong handsNo doubt the short FD ratio and the closeness of the final four ratios plays to the engine's strengths, but I suspect there was also an element of Wayne's mapping trickery (and specifically the opening closing and phasing of the resonance flaps in the 997 4.0RS/Cup intake plenum) that made it feel almost like it was working more efficiently above 5500 rpm in the higher gears.
Thanks for that.
Recently I had a passenger ride in a 996.2 with 32/8 final drive, it felt like the car was turned up to 11. 30-110 was electric (we didn’t go faster than that on the day).
Just need to find out the cost of a custom longer 6th for cruising.
MDL111 said:
Instead of too much, I would probably say not all that much fun assuming you stick plus/minus to speed limits and cornering speeds that are acceptable for a road with other users (although I wouldn’t apply that label to a 997 GT2)
I’d agree with this it depends on where you live, around me the roads are just too busy nowadays and have been ruined by utility companies installing all the cables for modern living. Quite how they get away with digging up perfectly good roads and leaving shoddy repairs is beyond me..Then there are the speed cameras and dash cam warriors to contend with.
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