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[jakesmith]

Luke. said:

Delightful.

+1 I love them

[550Anniv]

jakesmith said:

Luke. said:

Delightful.

+1 I love them

I very much agree. I have had mine for eight years (which is the longest I have owned the same car) and love it.

[ATM]

550Anniv said:

jakesmith said:

Luke. said:

Delightful.

+1 I love them

I very much agree. I have had mine for eight years (which is the longest I have owned the same car) and love it.

Are these interior bits in matching GT Silver?

[Mariosbt]

ATM said:

What about this one?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193780114434

Both lovely examples. This was my 1st Porsche. X Reg. 3.2 S 16 years ago. Sorry photo of a photo.

[Mariosbt]

Then I got this 3.2 on a ‘55 plate in Atlas grey. Stunning but sadly got vandalised (paintwork) so she had to go once fixed ... £3K ffs

[Mariosbt]

Then I got a 3.4 S on an 08 plate . Can’t find a photo! Car lost £14K in 4 years.

Then I got this

[Mariosbt]

Mariosbt said:

Then I got a 3.4 S on an 08 plate . Can’t find a photo! Car lost £14K in 4 years.

Then I got this

& still got this ..... owned her 7 years in April . Still love every time I get in & drive (dry only).

I would not go back to a Boxster from a 911 coupe ... but it would be a dream to own both.

[simont001]

Greetings All

I've been looking to replace our ageing XC70 and had settled on a 330d XDrive Touring which i was looking forward to until yesterday. Now this is sitting on the drive and the Volvo is staying for the winter at least. Result!!



2003 Boxster S with 124k miles for £5500. OK, highish miles and not the cheapest but I have known the car for 7 years since it has been the everyday transport of the owner of a local car franchise. He has always had Porsches (and is selling this only because he has picked up a 911 Cabrio of the same age. Interestingly he thinks the Boxster may be faster and a better drive!!) and he has his own workshops so regular maintenance hasn't been skipped in his ownership and there is pretty comprehensive history with it since new. it had a new clutch just before he bought it 45k miles ago. He replaced the discs and pads this year, it needed a track rod end for its MoT yesterday and has had various bushes and links over its MoT history. No mention of IMS replacement anywhere which almost put me off but I got some reassurance from a local Indy Tom Ferguson who knows the car and advised taking out the oil filter every few months to check for metal particles as a symptom of impending failure ... haven't seen that mentioned anywhere - anyone got any thoughts? The bodywork is immaculate, it feels amazingly tight and healthy for a 17 year old car (the MoT tester was amazed by its poke!) and everything works (Oh, except reversing lights!). It seems to be a good honest car that has benefited from regular use and maintenance through its life and I am really pleased with it - better than I expected!

Only big thing I haven't been able to check is rad/condensors. Air conditioning works at least!

I have just cleared all of the drain holes because it was a bit damp and leafy having been sitting for the last few months. Would be very grateful for advice on other maintenance and refresh items that it would be sensible to check out. I am fairly hands-on with cars but this is my first Porsche. I've seen mention of the rads, engine mount, shocks, bushes, exhaust. What would you investigate first? Where do I look first for the reversing lights?

All comments welcome!

[edc]

Reverse light switch is on the gearbox.

[CallMeLegend]

Myself & SWMBO are looking to replace her dull Yaris Hybrid with something more interesting. She's finally realised having a super fuel efficient car sat on the drive being used at most twice a month is largely pointless, she rarely drives anywhere & I hate the car, so never drive it. We may as well have something a little more interesting.

With that in mind these have caught my eye, I'd be interested in feedback on the dealer & cars

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche...

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche... (she likes an auto)

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche...

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche...

[shalmaneser]

CallMeLegend said:

Myself & SWMBO are looking to replace her dull Yaris Hybrid with something more interesting. She's finally realised having a super fuel efficient car sat on the drive being used at most twice a month is largely pointless, she rarely drives anywhere & I hate the car, so never drive it. We may as well have something a little more interesting.

With that in mind these have caught my eye, I'd be interested in feedback on the dealer & cars

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche...

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche... (she likes an auto)

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche...

https://www.flatsixclassics.co.uk/listings/porsche...

You're paying top dollar there for a 986, and mega money for a tip IMO. For that sort of cash I'd want to see evidence of a proper suspension refresh and clutch etc. These are 20 year old cars, they need suspension arms all round these days really whatever the mileage.

For that money I'd be much more tempted to get a marginally higher mileage 2.7 987 for 7/8k and put in in to a decent indy and spend 2k on springs dampers and arms all round and be secure in the knowledge the job has been done properly.

In terms of longer term value the money needs to go into a manual really.

[gizlaroc]

shalmaneser said:

You're paying top dollar there for a 986, and mega money for a tip IMO. For that sort of cash I'd want to see evidence of a proper suspension refresh and clutch etc. These are 20 year old cars, they need suspension arms all round these days really whatever the mileage.

For that money I'd be much more tempted to get a marginally higher mileage 2.7 987 for 7/8k and put in in to a decent indy and spend 2k on springs dampers and arms all round and be secure in the knowledge the job has been done properly.

In terms of longer term value the money needs to go into a manual really.

This...^^^^^^

I have just spent £1200 on the front suspension on mine, they are old and the rubbers will be gone by now on age alone.

Look at the thread on boxa.net forums.

Spend £5-6k on one and get the bits that need doing done.

[ATM]

gizlaroc said:

shalmaneser said:

You're paying top dollar there for a 986, and mega money for a tip IMO. For that sort of cash I'd want to see evidence of a proper suspension refresh and clutch etc. These are 20 year old cars, they need suspension arms all round these days really whatever the mileage.

For that money I'd be much more tempted to get a marginally higher mileage 2.7 987 for 7/8k and put in in to a decent indy and spend 2k on springs dampers and arms all round and be secure in the knowledge the job has been done properly.

In terms of longer term value the money needs to go into a manual really.

This...^^^^^^

I have just spent £1200 on the front suspension on mine, they are old and the rubbers will be gone by now on age alone.

Look at the thread on boxa.net forums.

Spend £5-6k on one and get the bits that need doing done.

Without receipts in a car's history for stuff like this how hard is it to feel if it has been done? Most times when I buy a car I get maybe 5 or 10 minutes to test drive it and probably / maybe dont really get tuned in enough to detect stuff like this.

[shalmaneser]

ATM said:

gizlaroc said:

shalmaneser said:

You're paying top dollar there for a 986, and mega money for a tip IMO. For that sort of cash I'd want to see evidence of a proper suspension refresh and clutch etc. These are 20 year old cars, they need suspension arms all round these days really whatever the mileage.

For that money I'd be much more tempted to get a marginally higher mileage 2.7 987 for 7/8k and put in in to a decent indy and spend 2k on springs dampers and arms all round and be secure in the knowledge the job has been done properly.

In terms of longer term value the money needs to go into a manual really.

This...^^^^^^

I have just spent £1200 on the front suspension on mine, they are old and the rubbers will be gone by now on age alone.

Look at the thread on boxa.net forums.

Spend £5-6k on one and get the bits that need doing done.

Without receipts in a car's history for stuff like this how hard is it to feel if it has been done? Most times when I buy a car I get maybe 5 or 10 minutes to test drive it and probably / maybe dont really get tuned in enough to detect stuff like this.

Really hard! I'm a sucker for punishment so buy at the bottom of the market and sink money into my car to get it up to scratch! But since I do it myself I tell myself it's better value this way round. Plus it keeps me from loitering outside newsagents.

You'd need receipts and/or a decent underbody inspection to check.

[ooid]

shalmaneser said:

You'd need receipts and/or a decent underbody inspection to check.

For any of these cars, all you need that actually. max. 30mins-1hour inspection on the ramp, it tells you the most important bits (cooling, exhaust, suspension, oil leaks and etc..) If you also drive around 5-10 mins, (up to tempt.), it gives you the most condition.

[gizlaroc]

ATM said:

Without receipts in a car's history for stuff like this how hard is it to feel if it has been done? Most times when I buy a car I get maybe 5 or 10 minutes to test drive it and probably / maybe dont really get tuned in enough to detect stuff like this.

Well I agree. I bought this Boxster in September.

When I got there it was SORN and no insurance. So we took it up the lane. Felt fine, he had replaced coffin arms and the forks, so should be a good 'un?
The reality was it was it is an 18 year old car, and the suspension up front was horrid, dampers shot springs replaced with aftermarket and crap, top mounts shot and drop links completely gone.


Hence why I would rather just buy a car for £4-5k and get everything done.

I was looking through the old MOTs at the weekend, there is actually a receipt in there for fitting recon gearbox, clutch kit, RMS and IMS. Think it was £1800.
That at £1800, front and rear suspension all done for £3k and you would be at £8-9k and 'know' everything is hunky dory. Well, as hunky dory as can be.

Unless, you can see receipts for the work done on suspension or you can take it for a proper drive, spending £10k on a 986 could see it owing your £15k very quickly.

Edited by gizlaroc on Wednesday 9th December 00:15

[jamie w]

gizlaroc said:

Unless, you can see receipts for the work done on suspension or you can take it for a proper drive, spending £10k on a 986 could see it owing your £15k very quickly.

Yep, I've done just that spending £11k on a 986 6 years ago and then a further £7.5 k on sorting it!

Those dealer 986s are all several k too expensive unless they've had work done - and I'd wager they won't have...!

[CallMeLegend]

jamie w said:

gizlaroc said:

Unless, you can see receipts for the work done on suspension or you can take it for a proper drive, spending £10k on a 986 could see it owing your £15k very quickly.

Yep, I've done just that spending £11k on a 986 6 years ago and then a further £7.5 k on sorting it!

Those dealer 986s are all several k too expensive unless they've had work done - and I'd wager they won't have...!

They have gad rads, condensers, suspension sorted as required. Full inspection & repair as required carried out by North Devon Porsche prior to sale

[ooid]

It is very easy to caught up with a cosmetically good looking but potentially big bills waiting car with these. Friend of mine wanted to buy one a few years ago, I went with him to check the car. All looking great, around 70k mileage manual 2.7. North London car. I just wanted to check the engine bay, so the owner agreed. Opened the engine bay, just checking the air-filter, realizing there was no engine air-filter! The owner was shocked too, his mechanic probably forget to replace with a new one in the last service (which was 11 months ago!). Well, we had to walk away, who knows what kind of crap got in the engine bay during that 11 months...

[gizlaroc]

CallMeLegend said:

suspension sorted as required.

I don't know what that means?

Does that mean if something is shagged enough to start knocking they have replaced it?

Or..

As these are now 20 years old and the rubbers have all hardened and the dampers will not be at their best everything has been replaced because they are now at the age where they need to be replaced?


I would go onto https://www.design911.co.uk and price up the following front and rear....


Top mounts
Bearings
Bump stops
Dampers
Track control arms
Drop links.


I'm not saying the above cars are to be avoided, just saying that for that money I would want to know all the above has been done recently.

I would also be checking the dot code on tyres, many of the lower mileage ones all had tyres on them that were really old, often 8 years old. Many of these become second cars that only do 100 miles every dry weekend.

The car I bought had only done 10000 miles in the last 8 years. The rear tyres had around 6mm on them, but they were old, and because they were old they were crap and needed replacing. Another £300.



As I said, they could be the best 986's out there. Just go in with your eyes wide open and if you can, maybe try and get to go in a few.


986s are actually incredibly comfy, but well damped cars, they can make an M-Sport 3 series feel crashy. They should still feel like that today.