I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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John Laverick

1,992 posts

216 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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shalmaneser said:
Skyedriver said:
Finding "the right car".
Been through nearly all the usual ad places over the last couple of months looking for a 986 3.2S (not black, grey or silver).
Don't want too high a mileage and probably an earlier one to fit into budget. Maybe I've been reading to many forums but I'm finding cars for sale tend to not have had the likely replacement of parts which fail or have an MoT history that hints at neglect.

Recent ones, (to note I haven't viewed the cars as I live a bit remote and will be involving a professional inspection to confirm the condition prior to purchasing. This involves additional costs so I don't want to send them to see too many prospective purchases).

Car 1, looked nice enough in pics, relatively low priced, 78K miles, has slight misfire, wear to seat, air con & CD stack not working MoT history, probably the previous owner shows lack of regular checks and maintenance.

Car 2, twice the price 60K miles, great photos, apparently well cared for with Porsche history (?), MoT history shows annual repeat of advisories of corroded brake pipes covered in grease or underseal, tyres cracked etc

Neither have info on coolant pipes, clutch, IMS bearing, or any of the other items which apparently fail on these cars at 20 year old so I can assume not done.

Am I being too particular, don't want to just "dive in" as I don't know enough about these cars and they're not the simplest or cheapest to maintain.

Sorry for the ramble.
You're being too picky, unless you buy a car that is £££ from a really well known garage there is always going to be something to do. Especially on the 9X6 platform the IMS is a non-issue really. All of these cars are rolling restorations to some extent.

Look for a car with decent service history and a straight rust free bodyshell with lowish miles. The rest is bolt on stuff.
Agreed .... you're looking for the utopia. You'll probably be looking for a long time, find and buy the best you can that's available in a reasonable period of time and then get on with it.

Repair and fix as you go ... you're unlikely to experience significant problems all in one go.

Escy

3,958 posts

151 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Also, replacement coolant pipes are a 987 thing.

Andyoz

2,890 posts

56 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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This was always my fave thread.

It went a bit dormant over the Covid madness... rubbers hitting the road now though so might be getting a bit more active soon....

jimmy p

960 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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I've also been looking out for an early 986 3.2, I wanted the speed yellow one which Matthewsons sold a couple of months back. I travelled up to pickering to view, was really happy with look and condition of it but got blown out the water with the bidding for it, it reached 17.4k I believe with fees. I then missed out on another speed yellow one sold privately up in Scotland. It sold to a dealer who put just over 2k on price, I spoke with the private seller about it who said it had had paint at some time and wasn't quite up to Porsche standards, if it had been more local I would of drove up to view but it was 6.5 hours away!!!

The 2.7 that friends green porsche has looks priced well for a low mileage 1 owner car but the colour is just too boring for me, and ideally want a full extended leather 3.2, spoilt after viewing the matthewson car!!!

shalmaneser

5,943 posts

197 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Guys bit of a cheeky non-advert.

Happily Mrs Shalmaneser has a lovely baby bump! Sadly she will be getting rid of her 987 2.7 Boxster. But we've got an Alfa yey!

Not put together an advert yet (will do photos etc over the weekend).

Was thinking about £9k? Thoughts?

90k, black on black, manual, 19" wheels, extended leather, sports seats, sport chrono, sat-nav (lol). Excellent service history, Tower Porsche in London during our ownership mainly although I've done some bits myself - engine mounts and brake discs and pads mainly. Oh yeah and 4x drop links what a nightmare that was. Matching Dunlop Sportmaxx tyres.

Think it's quite a desirable spec.

Only downsides are kerbed wheels (no lady driver comments thanks) and some carpark battle scars. London car innit. Emails are open for interested parties. Will be going on Autotrader over the weekend.

snotrag

14,520 posts

213 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Speed Yellow has and always will be one of, it not THE colour for a Porsche - just like 968 Club sports, or 993 turbos etc.

Yes, its awesome - I'd love one - but you are seriously, seriously up against it if you will ONLY buy Speed Yellow.

jimmy p

960 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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snotrag said:
Speed Yellow has and always will be one of, it not THE colour for a Porsche - just like 968 Club sports, or 993 turbos etc.

Yes, its awesome - I'd love one - but you are seriously, seriously up against it if you will ONLY buy Speed Yellow.
I'm not only looking at speed yellow, just happens that the 2 that have really caught my eye were. Condition and mileage, colour and extended leather and the important things to me.
Happily have a silver or black if the condition was right. The problem is most 986's look really tired, I'm happy to pay that bit more for the condition I'm after just the matthewsons car caught me off guard with what It went for. I was expecting 12-13k

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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jimmy p said:
I've also been looking out for an early 986 3.2, I wanted the speed yellow one which Matthewsons sold a couple of months back. I travelled up to pickering to view, was really happy with look and condition of it but got blown out the water with the bidding for it, it reached 17.4k I believe with fees. I then missed out on another speed yellow one sold privately up in Scotland. It sold to a dealer who put just over 2k on price, I spoke with the private seller about it who said it had had paint at some time and wasn't quite up to Porsche standards, if it had been more local I would of drove up to view but it was 6.5 hours away!!!

The 2.7 that friends green porsche has looks priced well for a low mileage 1 owner car but the colour is just too boring for me, and ideally want a full extended leather 3.2, spoilt after viewing the matthewson car!!!
You and me both!

I too had someone look at the Mathewsons car, registered to bid and was somewhat surprised at the price. And the next one a month later which was the opposite end of fhe spectrum I understand.

Then the one at Blackburn (Scotland) that sold quickly to the dealer in Carnoustie.....

Fortunately I'll also take red or a nice bright blue, just don't want Black grey or silver.

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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jimmy p said:
I was expecting 12-13k
TBH the estimate was £9 - £12K
It needed maybe £3k spending on it. (ancient tyres, 3 years since service, few paint chips etc

snotrag

14,520 posts

213 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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jimmy p said:
I'm not only looking at speed yellow, just happens that the 2 that have really caught my eye were. Condition and mileage, colour and extended leather and the important things to me.
Happily have a silver or black if the condition was right. The problem is most 986's look really tired, I'm happy to pay that bit more for the condition I'm after just the matthewsons car caught me off guard with what It went for. I was expecting 12-13k
Oh yes, totally get you. It probably would have been a chunk cheaper if it had been Grey or something.

Orient Red (which I had) is a wonderful colour, much nicer than the much more common Arena Red in my opinion. It looks almost Pink in some light, sometimes Purple.

There are some good Blues too.

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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snotrag said:
Oh yes, totally get you. It probably would have been a chunk cheaper if it had been Grey or something.

Orient Red (which I had) is a wonderful colour, much nicer than the much more common Arena Red in my opinion. It looks almost Pink in some light, sometimes Purple.

There are some good Blues too.
There was an Orient Red car I saw in my trawling (PH, AT, C&C, EB, FB) yesterday, had a tan interior which went well with the car. Did look pink in the photos though. Still advertised today. (EB) and a Zanzibar Red (AT) one which looks Orange in the photos which I rather like (Car 2 in my OP). Also a "more popular" red car (AT & FB) which was my Car 1 in my OP.

Sublime

135 posts

221 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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snotrag said:
Speed Yellow has and always will be one of, it not THE colour for a Porsche - just like 968 Club sports, or 993 turbos etc.

Yes, its awesome - I'd love one - but you are seriously, seriously up against it if you will ONLY buy Speed Yellow.
When I spec'd my 986 it was Speed Yellow. At the time the OPC said it's not a popular colour and won't resale well. Times have changed.

2Btoo

3,449 posts

205 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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shalmaneser said:
Guys bit of a cheeky non-advert.

Happily Mrs Shalmaneser has a lovely baby bump! Sadly she will be getting rid of her 987 2.7 Boxster. But we've got an Alfa yey!

Not put together an advert yet (will do photos etc over the weekend).

Was thinking about £9k? Thoughts?

90k, black on black, manual, 19" wheels, extended leather, sports seats, sport chrono, sat-nav (lol). Excellent service history, Tower Porsche in London during our ownership mainly although I've done some bits myself - engine mounts and brake discs and pads mainly. Oh yeah and 4x drop links what a nightmare that was. Matching Dunlop Sportmaxx tyres.

Think it's quite a desirable spec.

Only downsides are kerbed wheels (no lady driver comments thanks) and some carpark battle scars. London car innit. Emails are open for interested parties. Will be going on Autotrader over the weekend.
Depending upon the severity of those car park battle scars then I'd think that that is underpriced. Others will have more wisdom but I'd be starting nearer £12k and seeing what interest you get.

CardiffTam

300 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Skyedriver said:
Finding "the right car".
Been through nearly all the usual ad places over the last couple of months looking for a 986 3.2S (not black, grey or silver).
Don't want too high a mileage and probably an earlier one to fit into budget. Maybe I've been reading to many forums but I'm finding cars for sale tend to not have had the likely replacement of parts which fail or have an MoT history that hints at neglect.

Recent ones, (to note I haven't viewed the cars as I live a bit remote and will be involving a professional inspection to confirm the condition prior to purchasing. This involves additional costs so I don't want to send them to see too many prospective purchases).

Car 1, looked nice enough in pics, relatively low priced, 78K miles, has slight misfire, wear to seat, air con & CD stack not working MoT history, probably the previous owner shows lack of regular checks and maintenance.

Car 2, twice the price 60K miles, great photos, apparently well cared for with Porsche history (?), MoT history shows annual repeat of advisories of corroded brake pipes covered in grease or underseal, tyres cracked etc

Neither have info on coolant pipes, clutch, IMS bearing, or any of the other items which apparently fail on these cars at 20 year old so I can assume not done.

Am I being too particular, don't want to just "dive in" as I don't know enough about these cars and they're not the simplest or cheapest to maintain.

Sorry for the ramble.
Check out Flat Six Classics in Devon. Specialise in 986's and have quite a turnover of cars. Even if they don't have something listed at the moment it is worth speaking to Sean who is the owner to see if he has anything coming in which fits with your requirements.

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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CardiffTam said:
heck out Flat Six Classics in Devon. Specialise in 986's and have quite a turnover of cars. Even if they don't have something listed at the moment it is worth speaking to Sean who is the owner to see if he has anything coming in which fits with your requirements.
Might do but Devon isn't exactly on my door step to view unfortunately.
(10 hours & around 550 miles)

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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If anyone happens to know the Orient Red or Zanzibar Red cars I mentioned earlier and could comment (off forum) or indeed the red one on FB/AT I'd appreciate it.
Thanks

jimmy p

960 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Skyedriver said:
If anyone happens to know the Orient Red or Zanzibar Red cars I mentioned earlier and could comment (off forum) or indeed the red one on FB/AT I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
Message sent

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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jimmy p said:
Message sent
replied with thanks

esotericar

745 posts

29 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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2Btoo said:
shalmaneser said:
Guys bit of a cheeky non-advert.

Happily Mrs Shalmaneser has a lovely baby bump! Sadly she will be getting rid of her 987 2.7 Boxster. But we've got an Alfa yey!

Not put together an advert yet (will do photos etc over the weekend).

Was thinking about £9k? Thoughts?

90k, black on black, manual, 19" wheels, extended leather, sports seats, sport chrono, sat-nav (lol). Excellent service history, Tower Porsche in London during our ownership mainly although I've done some bits myself - engine mounts and brake discs and pads mainly. Oh yeah and 4x drop links what a nightmare that was. Matching Dunlop Sportmaxx tyres.

Think it's quite a desirable spec.

Only downsides are kerbed wheels (no lady driver comments thanks) and some carpark battle scars. London car innit. Emails are open for interested parties. Will be going on Autotrader over the weekend.
Depending upon the severity of those car park battle scars then I'd think that that is underpriced. Others will have more wisdom but I'd be starting nearer £12k and seeing what interest you get.
No chance. Not with cars like this for £12k from a dealer with ostensible statutory protections, no carpark scars and a fraction of the mileage.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205085...

That car, incidentally, has not sold quickly.

Market isn't great right now what with the post lockdown buying frenzy long having subsided, cost of living going exponential, economy tipping into recession, the blacksmith's strike in its 15th week and the Dorset Horse Fetishist's Fair just around the corner, to say nothing of the potential impact of poor weather on Jewish New Year. Anyway, it's v slow out there and I think to get it actually sold, £12k ain't gonna cut it. £9k sounds a bit more likely to get the phone ringing.

A lot of cars in the classifieds right now priced for a reality that no longer exists.

ATM

18,404 posts

221 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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jimmy p said:
I've also been looking out for an early 986 3.2, I wanted the speed yellow one which Matthewsons sold a couple of months back. I travelled up to pickering to view, was really happy with look and condition of it but got blown out the water with the bidding for it, it reached 17.4k I believe with fees. I then missed out on another speed yellow one sold privately up in Scotland. It sold to a dealer who put just over 2k on price, I spoke with the private seller about it who said it had had paint at some time and wasn't quite up to Porsche standards, if it had been more local I would of drove up to view but it was 6.5 hours away!!!

The 2.7 that friends green porsche has looks priced well for a low mileage 1 owner car but the colour is just too boring for me, and ideally want a full extended leather 3.2, spoilt after viewing the matthewson car!!!
I didnt realise the Mortimers car was full extended leather. That means full leather on the dash right? That feels like a rare option on the 986