Official 997 GT2 Brochure & Specs... 204mph

[Dr S]

Adam B said:

The Pits said:

I've another idea for them - move the f***ing engine forwards!!! That'll do wonders for your load over the rear axle and therefore your driving dynamics.

won't do much for the ability to get some people in the back though, which has always been a feature buyers liked about the 911

Doubt that GT2 buyers worry about back seats...

[Adam B]

agreed but the criticism was not specifically aimed at the GT2

"Sadly the Cayman has been a flop. I think it was another attempt by Porsche to develop something that could replace the dreadful 911. As ever (and despite Porsche's best efforts like the 928, 944, 968) you lot just won't stop buying the damn things."

and I hardly think Porsche is going to move the engine and re-engineer the chassis etc just for the GT cars

[DiscoColin]

Adam B said:

and I hardly think Porsche is going to move the engine and re-engineer the chassis etc just for the GT cars

The way that things are going, they have 4 choices.
(i) mid-engined 911 [extremely unlikely]
(ii) limited homologation run of a re-engineered Cayman with GT3 derrived running gear [unlikely]
(iii) a new model to homologate for GT racing [a bit more unlikely]
(iv) get out of trying to compete in the production GT classes [really unwise, but ultimately most likely - customers will not buy them if they aren't competative. To do so would mean some other kind of racing programme would be required in prototypes {I cannot imagine them ever going back to F1}].

Bleak, isn't it.

[boxerTen]

Adam B said:

The Pits said:

I've another idea for them - move the f***ing engine forwards!!! That'll do wonders for your load over the rear axle and therefore your driving dynamics.

won't do much for the ability to get some people in the back though, which has always been a feature buyers liked about the 911

There's the conflict. A car made for four seats (whether its got them or not) has to make big compromises. Fundamentally a 911 cannot both be a class leading sports car and a four seater GT.

[boxerTen]

DiscoColin said:

The way that things are going, they have 4 choices.
(i) mid-engined 911 [extremely unlikely]
(ii) limited homologation run of a re-engineered Cayman with GT3 derrived running gear [unlikely]
(iii) a new model to homologate for GT racing [a bit more unlikely]
(iv) get out of trying to compete in the production GT classes [really unwise, but ultimately most likely - customers will not buy them if they aren't competative. To do so would mean some other kind of racing programme would be required in prototypes {I cannot imagine them ever going back to F1}].

The solution is fairly obvious - and it must have occured to Porsche. Acknowledge the 911 is a tourer and drop the GT2 and GT3. Above the 911 range (not in the tiny gap between the Boxster and Carrera) should have gone the Cayman ... a somewhat wider and lower Cayman, with wishbone suspension all round and engines starting where the Carrera S now is. Hotter models would run the GT3 and GT2 engines - and in time the rumored new 8 or 10 cylinder.

[Pugsey]

Pork_n_Beem said:

Pugsey your absolutely right, you have no idea what i am talking about.

I am talking about a sport and you are worried about the drive home.

Thats hilarious

You misread my post - I DO know what you're talking about. Trouble is I'm talking about the original topic - ie the GT2 and you've gone off down tangent boulevard because I chucked in a jokey comment re. F1!

PS. Agree with your comments re. F1 btw.

Edited by Pugsey on Tuesday 17th July 10:16