school boy error, too much oil....
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Wouldn't call this a schoolboy error (rennlist directs you to a whole area on oil filling to avoid frequent posts) given
1)the eccentricities of the guage
2)difficulty reading the dipstick.
3)unhelpful instructions in owners manual.
First time I nearly overfilled mine by following manual because oil not hot enough after 5 minutes idling and I estimated the level as too low. The most useful info in the manual is there's a litre between low and high on the dipstick.
A schoolboy error is leaving the oil container on the floor and reversing into it
Tim
1)the eccentricities of the guage
2)difficulty reading the dipstick.
3)unhelpful instructions in owners manual.
First time I nearly overfilled mine by following manual because oil not hot enough after 5 minutes idling and I estimated the level as too low. The most useful info in the manual is there's a litre between low and high on the dipstick.
A schoolboy error is leaving the oil container on the floor and reversing into it
Tim
arran said:
So i'll counnt my blessings if it's just a couple of dead cats......
how do I get at this plug?
Thanks
Will be under the engine on the bottom of the sump.
Run the car for a couple of minutes to warm the oil a fraction before doing this and ensure you know exactly how much to replace it with (and have a sufficiently large receptacle under the sump plug to catch the oil when it comes out (note it will spurt initially so be ready)
It may also be worth getting hold of a new sump plug washer (should cost all of 50p) as it is advised to always replace this to get a good seal etc.
Dont forget oil cannot be disposed via the drains.
It is also a case of how much is too much, if it is just over the mark then i would live with it, but if we are talking a litre or more then i would definately drain it.
>> Edited by dontlift on Friday 9th January 13:19
dontlift said:
So i'll counnt my blessings if it's just a couple of dead cats......
how do I get at this plug?
Thanks
Will be under the engine on the bottom of the sump.
Is that where it is? I always thought that on a 993 with it's dry sump
Run the car for a couple of minutes to warm the oil a fraction before doing this and ensure you know exactly how much to replace it with (and have a sufficiently large receptacle under the sump plug to catch the oil when it comes out (note it will spurt initially so be ready)
It may also be worth getting hold of a new sump plug washer (should cost all of 50p) as it is advised to always replace this to get a good seal etc.
Dont forget oil cannot be disposed via the drains
Will it be best to drain at the bottom of the engine? I always thought that with a dry sump confuguration on the 993 it would be better to drain the oil from the drain plug on the oil tank, as one would on an oil change. maybe completely off base here?
oddman said:
Wouldn't call this a schoolboy error (rennlist directs you to a whole area on oil filling to avoid frequent posts) given
1)the eccentricities of the guage
2)difficulty reading the dipstick.
3)unhelpful instructions in owners manual.
First time I nearly overfilled mine by following manual because oil not hot enough after 5 minutes idling and I estimated the level as too low. The most useful info in the manual is there's a litre between low and high on the dipstick.
A schoolboy error is leaving the oil container on the floor and reversing into it
Tim
The other 993 schoolboy error, is to use a plastic funnel into the filler cap at a seriously silly angle. Holding this in place with your left hand you, slowly add miniscule amounts of oil into the funnel taking extreeme care not to let it creap back over the top edge of the funnel, because of the almost horizontal angle.
Having spent 15 minutes adding half a litre of oil, some bright spark tells you about the flexible tube thingy cleverly concealed in the filler neck!
clubsport said:
Will it be best to drain at the bottom of the engine? I always thought that with a dry sump confuguration on the 993 it would be better to drain the oil from the drain plug on the oil tank, as one would on an oil change. maybe completely off base here?
Probably, didnt think about dry sumps
Isn't there just a single cat on a 993? Can't you just fit a cat bypass pipe (cheap) and run without it? The cat will be upstream of silencing so won't sound too anti-social.
Though I think you would have to refit one come MOT time. Depends whether the original is already knackered to the point of not being able to pass an emissions test I guess.
All of the above subject to correction by someone who knows more about it!
Good luck
Chris
Though I think you would have to refit one come MOT time. Depends whether the original is already knackered to the point of not being able to pass an emissions test I guess.
All of the above subject to correction by someone who knows more about it!
Good luck
Chris
STOP!!!
Overfilling a 993 engine can be terminal, but i guess you haven't overfilled it by that much.
You need to drain the dry sump tank which on a 993 is VERY EASY.
No need to take any wheels off or anything like that.
I can talk you through this on the phone if you like, e-mail me and i'll give you my number.
Short version:
1. There is a small plastic square panel (say 4"x4") just in front of the right-hand rear wheel.
2. You undo one or two screws (can't remember 1 or 2) and this panel comes away.
3. There you will see a bolt head. Can't remember what size it is, but somewhere between 13mm and 17mm is about right i think.
4. When you undo this bolt you will empty all but about 1.5 litres of oil from the system.
Bearing in mind that the 993 system is designed to run at about 11.5 litres you should be expecting 10 litres to come out, plus whatever you overfilled it by.
The other 1.5 litres (for interest) are in the bottom of the engine (there is an engine drain plug) and about 1/2 a litre in each of the two filters (there are two oil filters, a large dry sump tank one and a small engine one).
HTH
VS
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Overfilling a 993 engine can be terminal, but i guess you haven't overfilled it by that much.
You need to drain the dry sump tank which on a 993 is VERY EASY.
No need to take any wheels off or anything like that.
I can talk you through this on the phone if you like, e-mail me and i'll give you my number.
Short version:
1. There is a small plastic square panel (say 4"x4") just in front of the right-hand rear wheel.
2. You undo one or two screws (can't remember 1 or 2) and this panel comes away.
3. There you will see a bolt head. Can't remember what size it is, but somewhere between 13mm and 17mm is about right i think.
4. When you undo this bolt you will empty all but about 1.5 litres of oil from the system.
Bearing in mind that the 993 system is designed to run at about 11.5 litres you should be expecting 10 litres to come out, plus whatever you overfilled it by.
The other 1.5 litres (for interest) are in the bottom of the engine (there is an engine drain plug) and about 1/2 a litre in each of the two filters (there are two oil filters, a large dry sump tank one and a small engine one).
HTH
VS
www.verysideways.com
P.S. hi Clubsport, how's things? Glad to see you ditched the '6 for the '3RS. You lucky bu**er. ;-) When do i get a go?
P.P.S. Colin Belton (aka ninemeister) will be able to help with 100 cell race cats for the 993, but i doubt you'll need them and if you're planning on track days then they may make your car too loud for most track days. You have been warned.
VS
P.P.S. Colin Belton (aka ninemeister) will be able to help with 100 cell race cats for the 993, but i doubt you'll need them and if you're planning on track days then they may make your car too loud for most track days. You have been warned.
VS
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