PA2000 Alarm going mad on 993

PA2000 Alarm going mad on 993

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robl499

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22 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Hi all,

I went out to my 993 a few days ago to discover the battery was totally dead. Not a huge surprise as it hadn't been used for 3 weeks or so (although it normally copes ok). So, I unlocked the car manually with the key, removed the battery, recharged it and replaced it this morning.

However, as soon as I reconnect the battery, all hell breaks loose - horn, siren, flashing indicators, flashing interior light the lot. No amount of frantic plipping on the PA2000 fob will stop it. The only way to silence it seems to be to disconnect the battery again.

Any ideas how to reset the alarm? It seems to be cycling through various phases of using the horn only, siren only, siren and horn together.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions to avoid getting lynched by angry neighbours.

BrakeFade

15 posts

186 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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I've had the same kind of problem on my 993. I turn the alarm off using the small key you should have. This goes into the alarm gubbings that's in the engine bay. I then connect the battery.

The alarm still goes off, but you don't get any noise, just lights flashing. You can then use the fob to turn the alarm off. Just remember to turn the alarm back on using the key again.

robl499

Original Poster:

22 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Thanks John. I just took a look in the engine bay and the luggage compartment at the front and I can't see anywhere obvious to put a key? I've also only got the standard door/igntion keys + the tiny immobiliser keys, nothing else. Is yours also a PA2000?

dommorton

176 posts

186 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Hi Rob,

I understand the PA2000 has it's key inside the car rather than on the siren in the engine bay.

The location largely depends on the installer but one was recently found under the seat. All well and good if you have the key!

That said all it does is silence the siren so if you can't switch it off with the fob now you still won't be able to with a quiet siren either.

Have you tried sticking the immob key in the dash?

If nothing works it's not unheard of for these to go screwy after a flat battery. Hamilton and Palmer can diagnose faults and can also supply any parts required to fix these systems.

warmfuzzies

4,202 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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I have had similar problems when I forgot about my battery, and it measured 2v..... everytime I reconnected it after charging the alarm went off. The only remedy I found was to sit with it, holding the disarm button on the fob. It would eventually stop after about 1-2 minutes.

kevin

robl499

Original Poster:

22 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Thanks for the various suggestions. I've just tried a combination of all of them. There's no sign of an additional keyslot or key to go in it anyway. The alarm is now going off on siren only (no horn now) and stops after 30s or so. However, any attempt to disturb the car such as getting in it and starting it sets the alarm off for another 30s. Weirdly, the ignition and immobiliser work fine - it even starts and drives, but it's like the keyfobs no longer have any effect. Neither will lock or unlock the car. Unlock it with the key and the alarm goes off.

Every car I've had around this vintage the alarm's always been much more grief than the car frown

james S

1,620 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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http://www.hamilton-palmer.co.uk/

Hamilton and Palmer did all the P1000s and may have done the 2000s as well. Give them a call. V helpful people
Tel: +44 (0)1732 760022

dommorton

176 posts

186 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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They made the PA2000 too.


robl499

Original Poster:

22 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Thanks all. I'll give them a call on Monday and let you know the cure.

Annoying on the first nice day for a drive in ages... frown

rebp911

4 posts

181 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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I've got a PA2000 on my 964, which sometimes plays up when the battery goes flat. Do you have the H&P manual that came with it? If you go to FAQ on http://www.964uk.com, you can download a copy from there

dommorton

176 posts

186 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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robl499 said:
Thanks all. I'll give them a call on Monday and let you know the cure.
Pretty sure Jim (their only PA technician) only works Tuesday's and Thursday's.

robl499

Original Poster:

22 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Thanks for the info, I'll try them on Tuesday then smile. Yep, I've got the alarm manual which looks identical to the one on the 964 site. As it seems that the alarm has 'forgotten' the keyfobs I might try the process to teach it about a new fob and see if that works, but as I think that almost certainly requires a working fob I doubt it'll work.

robl499

Original Poster:

22 posts

192 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Just to follow up on this for the benfit of anybody encountering problems like this in the future - I spoke to Jim at Hamilton & Palmer who said that this issue can sometimes be resolved by pressing the raised button on the alarm fob 3 or 4 times, followed by the recessed button.

Sadly, that didn't solve the problem for me, so I've had to remove the alarm board to send to H&P for refurbishment. The board itself is reasonably straightforward to remove. It's in a black metal box usually under the driver's seat, so you have to remove the seat, unbolt the box from the car floor and then open the box and slide out the circuitboard inside. One potentially difficult part is that the alarm box is held to the car floor and the box is held together with special security screws which need a tamperproof screwdriver to remove (available from RS Components).

Luckily for me, my 993 has a separate immobiliser so it can be driven while the board is away for refurbishment, although apparently some PA2000's have integrated immobilisers where this wouldn't be the case.


dommorton

176 posts

186 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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That's what I had to do with my PA1000. Still have the RS screwdriver which I guess may come in handy one day to do it all again.

rebp911

4 posts

181 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Edited by rebp911 on Thursday 21st April 23:01