group buy 993 cats = 100 cell or 200 cells?

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I have a straight through pipe on my 993 c2s which is brilliant for sound but not so much for MOT and emission purposes. I do not want to put the original cat back because it is way too quiet.

I have contacted powerspeed in Kent and they do:

200 cell cats => £495 + vat.
100 cell cats => £600 + vat.

We need to be at least 4 to be able to get this excellent deal.

Please post here if interested. They will call me back this afternoon to confirm conditions.

ps: anyone with experience of 100 cell or 200 cell cats on 993 please feel free to contribute...

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Bear in mind I am coming from a 'sans-cat' set-up.

My concern is more in terms of sound and MOT.

I want to keep the sound as close as possible to my no-cat set-up.

Could not care less about performance as long as I do not lose much...

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In fact I spoke to these guys again. If we are 4x in total to have sport cats fitted, the deal is:

£495 ALL IN (VAT + fitting) for 200 cell cats (instead of £600).
Some companies charge £1200 to do a similar job...

This really is an amazing deal for those who want their 993 to sound a lot 'fruitier'...

They say 100 cell cats are too 'border line' MOT wise...

I am going to have mine done on Nov 17th whatever happens.

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Wozy68 said:

I'm using my phone and reading this and Internet speed is a problem.. I'm miles away from Kent (worcestershire) but might be well up for this with the 200 cell. Where are they east or west side of Kent ?
Just to confirm. The price taken off and refitted is £495.00?
Also, do they accept visa.? Long way to go with cash.

495 is all in if we are 4. Inluding taking exhaust off, fitting 200 cell cat... They said 200 cell cat and 100 cell have roughly the same sound. They are in ashford which means far from london.

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thegoose said:

Have you actually had an MOT emissions test done with the decay pipe? I had a 993 a few years ago with one and it passed fine. That's partly what motivated me to have my 993 done last year, passed MOT fine in August.

You passed mot with a decat pipe on a 993???

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the latter.

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Martian O said:

Do you not have a friendly MOT tester?

guess so...

Nonetheless, I have tears coming to my eyes when standing behind the car at idle... fumes coming out of the exhausts are a bit err.. rich!

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TB993tt said:

Worth pointing out that not all cats are the same. The moniker 100 cell or 200 cell does not tell you whether the deal is relatively good (to other brands) or not FWIW

Compare the above company with H&S for example... Unless proven otherwise, one charges 150% more than the other. It would have to be AMAZING cats to justify the difference... I have never used the above company but they have a good feedback, are renowned in motorsport circles.

For the money, they is little downside as far as I am concerned. So I will give them a try regardless if people want to join the group deal or not.

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brand they use is American and the guy buys pallets of them from the state. They do not know name. Apparently, their main market is for catherams, apparently they make most sport cats for them... They are guaranteed 2 years.

Feel free to call them direct on 01233662225

Edited by erics on Tuesday 6th November 16:51

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The link you provide is to a chinese manufacturer, right?

Anyway, plenty of nay sayers as usual on pistonheads but no one with real experience of this outfit?

I am surprised because plenty of 993 owners bought from them on 911uk.com. I would be curious to hear from people who have first hand experience from this shop rather than someone incline to bring them down without knowing the facts.

I am not defending them, I do not know them and it will be my first experience there. The research I have done so far is positive and they seem to have a professional approach when I talk to them.

I am sure there are plenty of reputable exhaust manufacturers in the US and people over here buy from them.

My view is that if I get it wrong with them, I either put my straight pipe back on or the original cat. The cost is not astronomical. I am not even sure that by paying double elsewhere I will get double quality...

TB993tt said:

Like all components quality can vary

eg

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/434219659/sport_...

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TB993tt said:

How am I "bringing them down without knowing the facts" FFS - I am giving you some information so YOU, who is proposing a group buy, can find out and offer some facts and make sure it is an "excellent deal"

They may be perfectly good cats, I just showed the Chinese link to illustrate just how cheap "100 cell" cats can be bought - sorry for trying to educate, you buy what you want.

Edited by TB993tt on Tuesday 6th November 22:19

Maybe a bit harsh response from my end.. Apologies..

I called and asked questions subsequent to your post. The chap simply told me they were unbranded. He did not try to oversell them and said they were extremely popular in motorsport circles.

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Found this

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=66681&highlig...

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Ha Nick... You are correct, my 993 is embarassingly loud with the cat bypass. I kind of like it though!

Thanks very much for the feedback Rob.

HokumPokum said:

do it man... the 993 is way too loud..

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Will bump this, am gonna have my cats done at powerspeed tomorrow in case someone fancies being part of the group buy...

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Been there done it. Good guys, work well. Done dozens of 993s done in the past. Had a spare standard 993 sport cat with 200 cells done as well in case anyone fancies..