Are there good 911s for £13k? ...

Are there good 911s for £13k? ...

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burriana

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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er, hello, don't mind me, just hopped over the fence from the Italian section to ask some advice.

Undoubtedly the answer to the above question is yes ... but what model to go for, that is the confusing bit.

My F348 Spider goes on Saturday and, until I can sort out the funds for a 512 Testarossa or 456, I need something to keep me in mischief for 6-12 months, which isn't going to cost the earth and hence not take too much of a beating come re-sale time.

The 911 is the obvious answer. I think I need to be looking at a 3.2 CS, a 964, or a late 80s Turbo. I presume that all of these will do a true 150mph so that I can mostly keep up on runs (continental of course!)

I prefer the more up to date interior and bigger 3.6 engine of the 964, but don't like the "soft" back end without a fixed spoiler (but 964 Turbos are too expensive). Should I go for an earlier Turbo, or may I be buying potential trouble and bills?

I just don't know enough about the pros and cons of each model variant.

The budget is £12-14k, Coupe only, RHD preferred, also larey colours like magenta or Club Sport blue would be seen as a bonus

Any pointers or advice will be gratefully recieved.

thanks,
al


>> Edited by burriana on Wednesday 16th November 14:44

burriana

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Hmm, that's a shame, and it flys well in the face of what both P.Heads classifieds and Auto trader are saying re: values, unless they are all dogs?

This one for example looked quite nice for the money?

[url]www.pistonheads.com/sales/55523.htm[/url]

Just a little bit subtle for me, hence why I said "Magenta or Club Sport blue" ... not actually a Club Sport car.

I suspected a Turbo might be out of reach, they tend to start at about £17-18k

However, keep the advice coming guys, it's all going in

burriana

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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So, the Targas are cheaper than the Coupes? Any rough idea of the difference?

I had considered LHD and to be honest, don't mind, but RHD means the wife could occasionally drive it where she wouldn't touch a LHD in this country. Again, what is the price differential between right and left. On Ferraris it's usually about £4-5k

burriana

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So on the face of it, it looks like I'm best going for a LHD 964 and just putting up with a flat @rse

Am I correct in assuming the normally aspirated cars will be good for 150-155mph and around 5-5.5 secs 0-60?

burriana

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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dazren said:
Hey Al.

Have you seen this one in the classifieds. A 4WD manual Cabrio and not far from you, idea for the Hoon if you haven't switched back to Ferrari ownership.


Ah, Squadron Leader Sir!

Don't want a cabrio though i'm afraid, had two and I think that's enough.

Suppose a Targa would be ok... and you can get some good colours in them... and, it is only a weekend fun car and kept in a heated garage, so maybe ... but I just remember the oft quoted saying ... get the newest car you can afford, so LHD it might have to be if you guys are correct with the money issues.

There are just so many out there that look well priced though. Apart from full service history, but are the other danger zones?

burriana

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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henry-f said:
we do have a lovely LHD 964 at £12k and a scruffy but mechanically sound 964 cab in RHD going on the site for £13-14k.
Henry


Got some lovely cars there Henry - especially the two bright blue ones

There is an interesting white 964 targa but i couldn't get anymore pictures to display.

burriana

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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I am trying to stick to £15k max, ideally £13k.

What colour is that? Purple-ish? If so I wouldn't mind seeing a pic of it

>> Edited by burriana on Wednesday 16th November 17:34

burriana

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Wednesday 16th November 2005
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Slider, you should have mail

Hoges, is yours the black one? If so, a little too subtle for me I'm afraid. The guys that know me will know what I mean

burriana

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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slider2 said:
Send me you email address and I'll pop a few pic across


Thanks for the pics James - I will email you a bit later with a few questions

burriana

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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lanesra10 said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with 964 Targas for daily drivers, In fact from early spring until late October there is nothing better than a targa with a cat bypass.


What's wrong with November - March?

Ah, now there's a question. My Ferrari is de-catted and has a Tubi, and sounds incredible ... is there an exhaust treatment on the 3.2 or 964 that is a "must do"?

burriana

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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ICSD said:
lanesra10 said:
there is nothing better than a targa with a cat bypass.


Maybe not if you're only doing a few miles but if you think they're OK for average-serious mileage then you're either already deaf or you're going to be - or you don't go over 50!


Naaah! try an open top Ferrari with no cats and a Tubi... pardon?

burriana

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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ICSD said:
Trouble is that it's all very nice with the roof off listening to the engine - I could do that all day. The problem is when the roof is on and then having your ear drums burst by the wind noise - that's horrible!


Bloody good point - you've just reminded me why I swore the next one would be a coupe - the Spider is A LOT noisier with the roof up than it is with it down!

burriana

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Thursday 17th November 2005
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Hmm, are all the targa tops black vinyl/cloth or, as a lot of people do with the Ferraris, can they, or are the newer ones, colour coded?

burriana

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Friday 18th November 2005
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Well, I bought a copy of 911 & Porsche World today ... how quickly one's allegiances changes!

burriana

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Saturday 19th November 2005
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clubsport said:
For this kind of money, i would not be specific on the targa in a fancy colour with a leary exhaust etc....there are a lot of cars around some good...some less so....

I would buy the best car I could for the money, with respect to condition and history....preferably a coupe in a saleable colour...especially if you are going to own it as a short term proposition.


No, I realise that, so am quite open to coupe v Targa, but have since found out that the Coupe seems to be more rare and more expensive than the Targa. standard exhaust is fine as i can always play with that ... and i hear what you say about a resaleable colour (re-sale red on Ferraris) ... but i'm the sort of person that buys a yellow Ferrari

Seriously, if the car was right then I would put up with a sensible colour and if I get well and truly bitten by the dark side, then I can always save the Cup Blue or Speed Yellow for the next one which would probably be a 993 TT.

Thanks for all the guidance so far guys.

Am on a bit of a downer as the Ferrari went today ... good job I've got V.Max to look forward to tomorrow!

burriana

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Sunday 20th November 2005
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Have been scouring the classifieds and chatted to a few of the guys at V.max today i am still pretty certain it is a 911 that will fill my need best. The 968 was mentioned, especially the Turbo which is regarded as the best kept Turbo secret Porsche has. I do like the shape of the 968, and if i wanted one as an every day car i would seriously consider it... but this is my weekend fun car and as such, has to have that little bit of the exotic about it ... it has to make me just simply want to go and look at it in the garage ... it has to shout character and presence. Does any of that make sense?

Again, I have always loved 928s, but they look just too sensible and are too big really to class as a sunday chuck about ... fantastic performance though they undoubtedly have.

One of the guys even suggested a BMW M Coupe. Again, great cars, go like stink and handle brill, but, it has the same generic interior as a Z3, or any other BM. It doesn't shout passion.

One of the guys who posted earlier has a lovely 911 for sale and everything looked right, beautiful car, great colour, but just too high on mileage... i know, it isn't everything, but I MUST be able to sell it again in 6 or 12 months when I get the next proper money car.

Have at least decided that, even though it doesn't have a fixed spoiler, I would prefer a 964 than a 3.2 Carrera. (all dependent on condition of course).

There was one model that suffered from the main seal leaking once it had some miles on. Which was it? It may have even been the later water cooled engines?

Once again, thanks for your time guys.

burriana

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Monday 21st November 2005
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Thanks Iain, that's just the sort of info I'm after

burriana

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Monday 21st November 2005
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rubystone said:
, I'd look for an RHD G50 'boxed non-sport coupe


Sorry, you have lost me a bit there... I'm still learning the Porsche lingo ... G50 boxed non-sport?

On another issue, does anyone know this white 964 C4 that is in the classifieds. Looks reasonable on the surface. are the early 4WD 964s ok?

[url]www.pistonheads.com/sales/57221.htm[/url]

>> Edited by burriana on Monday 21st November 11:13