993 Question.

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ballcock

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Tuesday 18th July 2006
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I wonder if the 993 gurus can help.

A friend of mine is having trouble starting his 993 c4s. There's no turn over, no solenoid type clicking , the annunciator lights come on as per normal on position one , position 2 should get start up , but nothings doing.

The OPC (150 miles away ) are suggesting starter motor, the owner thinks it could be an immobiliser fault as he got a slow turn-over on the engine earlier today , and the alarm went off ...

It would save him a packet if he could even get the car started , as he wouldn't have to have it flat-bedded to Belfast from Dublin ..

(Needless to say he doesn't have a Porsche warranty, though is thinking that one through as I type!!)
Ideas??

ballcock

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Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Whoa!! .. Thanks y'all for the replies .. I'm getting on the phone to him later , and will concoct a suitable remedy on line, to the highest bidder.

ballcock

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Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Is this a wind up or how do I get the guy to pull the relay?

ballcock

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Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Okay .. Soree! .. Where is said relay on the 993 ?

ballcock

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Tuesday 18th July 2006
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magic torch said:
hugoc2s said:
magic torch said:
hugoc2s said:
I can't believe you chaps dont know about the DME relay thing!?!

Why would we?

We've got reliable 996s.


DME relay = £30

RMS = £££££££££££££££




RMS = FOC (plus free car wash)

Plus a free pint , if we can get you to turn up to our 'Don't talk your car down' piss up.

ballcock

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Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Update;

It's probably not the starter motor as the car won't 'jump start' (Assuming the imobiliser isn't gone completely gaga.)

He's put a new battery in with no success .. The alarm went off , he switched it off as you guys described with 'the little key' .. still no joy.

Is there anything special that needs to be done when changing battery , to ensure the imobiliser isn't doing it's thing and preventing the engine from starting anyway??

ballcock

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Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Thanks again for the replies.

He's shipping it up to Belfast this evening so I'm trying nax effort here to try and find a way for him to start the car so he won't have to pay transport charges.(it's going up for it's annual today anyway)

Is there a recognised method of changing batteries (that he may not have followed) to make sure that the immobiliser goes off line when the new battery is fitted?.... He thinks that the key in the engine bay is only for stopping the alarm siren , nothing to do with the immob.

ballcock

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Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Ta , I'll pass all this on .. I asked him this morning if he had an ammeter .. No.. (He's not one of the bearded 993 types!!).. So the chances of him diagnosing the problem are small , but I was hoping there was a slim chance of something simple , ie that he hadn't put the new battery in , in accordance with the manual.

He's already tried the bump start ...

When changing battery , do you have to leave the key in position one on the ignition??

ballcock

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Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Thanks very much James , I'll pass all this along.

ballcock

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Thursday 20th July 2006
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Thanks Mot .. It's out of his hands at this atage .. He's trailered it up to Belfast OPC (Who have always treated me really well so I'm sure it's in good hands..)

He did give H and P a ring (Thanks again James) this afternoon , and , yes , you were right , it failed a test they put it through and he's going to have to get a new motherboard .. He's still puzzled as to what blew the board in the first place.. I'll let y'all know when he gets the car back..

ballcock

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Friday 28th July 2006
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Sorry if I'm boring anyone by doing a Frankenstein on this thread again but my pal says HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!

Brief update ... Car won't start , alarm goes off , we all reckon it's the immobiliser.

So it's carted off to the OPC where they put in the new motherboard after diagnosing an immobiliser fault , and all is good.

Well no actually , the bloody car is still refusing to start. It's sitting in the OPC the guys are going thru wiring looms , and admittedly scratching their heads .. All the time the money clock is ticking.

Ideas , oh learned ones??

ballcock

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Thursday 3rd August 2006
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An update for anyone who's interested .. Turns out the car developed a starter motor fault which blew the immobiliser motherboard.. A new starter motor was fitted this afternoon , car fired up straight away.

Thanks for all the bits of advice along the way .

ballcock

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Thursday 3rd August 2006
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magic torch said:
So, who won?


I dunno , the ball got kicked into the crowd..............

ballcock

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Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Don't think the battery was at fault .. It's still going strong .. I owe you a pint anyway for all your help CF.

ballcock

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Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Sounds good ... Does that mean I have to bring ££££££ sterling??











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