Steering Geo early cars

[Walford]

Have just set rack height and flipped track rod ends over,
was at least 35mm out car is completely trans formed, not sure how these cars have been around for ten years, with steering Geo so far out

[Walford]

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Tyres are less than average, so are the stock dampers, springs are Eibach 14/03 D 0368 3mm wheel spacer fitted

just getting rid of all the bump steer transformed the car beyond believe

you can have the best dampers and tyres in the world, but as you enter a corner one front wheel becomes loaded the damper compresses, if at this point the steering is turned by the and track control arm and wishbones swing different rads the driver has to correct this to were he want the car pointing, this is compounded by the fact he lifts the throttle and the damper comes back up, moving the steering again
I think the tyres and damper part of the handling problems something that should be looked at after this problem is sorted not before

you just need a combination of rack height and track rod angle that swings the same arc as the upright, its that simple

with the damper and spring removed, its easy to find the best rack/track rod end position

, pic was taken before torquing up all the bolt

[Walford]

dvs_dave said:

But you've not just raised the rack and flipped the track rod over, you've also fitted the Sagaris steering arms. These are designed to have the track rod in that orientation. What you've done is essentially the Str8six bump steer mod.

If your car had those steering arms already fitted (would be very odd if that were the case) and the track rod was mounted on top of it, it's hardly a surprise that you had horrendous bump steer!

sorry thought was passing on helpful info

if you just flipped the track rod ends over the tapper would be wrong, obviously, the track arm is not std

Edited by Walford on Sunday 12th June 23:12

[Walford]

dvs_dave said:

Sagaris Steering Arm (as fitted to your car)

My car has steering arms that were made for suit the Geo of a MK1 year 2001 Tuscan speed six not a Saggy
my car has never been to Str8six, i don't even no were it is, was posting info for people who want to sort there own cars out, not take to dealer



My two point are
1 moving the rack will not get rid of the bump steer without also moving the track rod end
2 the amount of bump steer on the early cars means what ever dampers, springs and tyres you put on the car it will not handle

end of comment,s on Tuscan Geo, seems there are people out there that no a lot more than me
thanks for telling me what i am running on my car

FYI



how this is achieved is irrelevant

Edited by Walford on Monday 13th June 10:32

[Walford]

Basil Brush said:

You'd see improvements on all Tuscans, not just from late '00. The difference would be that it would be easier to correct it over a wider suspension movement on later cars due to the shorter track rods whereas, assuming a like-for-like static set up, earlier cars would tend to more toe out as bump increases.

The reason i made my own rather than fitting Saggy steering arms, is I don't have the rest of the Saggy Geo,

and as the Tuscan had things like rack width changed over the years, there can not be one set of components to correct all the cars,

hence the sketch i posted

its the principle, of correcting this Geo, that transforms these car

hope this clears up some of the confusion

[Walford]

Basil Brush said:

How much did you end up lifting the rack by, or did you leave it and do all the height adjustment with the arms?

I put 5mm under the rack,
this gives you some fine adjustment, if you sit the rack on the chassis, it carnt go down any more, or if to high carnt go up, so for me set it somwhere around mid