RE: Benn: High Fuel Prices An 'Incentive'
Discussion
The government seem to want us to go backwards, to a time when people had to stay at home cos there was no such thing as personnal transport? Progress has meant we can go anywhere at anytime and enjoy life - now we are expected to stay at home?!?! As long as car makers continue to explore ways to make green [but still fun] cars, one day we will all be driving around producing zero emissions [then the government will have to find something else to piss us off], but when will they learn that pricing us off the road is unfair and stupid as hell?
Well it certainly is an incentive but not an incentive to use their car less and reduce f'ing "emmissions" it is an incentive to reduce costs in the face of sprialing food, housing, utilitles and tax bills.
Ever the stick and never the carrot. Cars are the best transport there is as by definition, they are worth every penny. This is because they save on the one resource everyone has pretty much the same of no matter their income bracket - TIME. Public trasport can and will NEVER be quicker and cheaper than a car that is unrestricted by nonsensical traffic mismanagement in all its crazy forms and perversion of costs by super-taxation.
Ever the stick and never the carrot. Cars are the best transport there is as by definition, they are worth every penny. This is because they save on the one resource everyone has pretty much the same of no matter their income bracket - TIME. Public trasport can and will NEVER be quicker and cheaper than a car that is unrestricted by nonsensical traffic mismanagement in all its crazy forms and perversion of costs by super-taxation.
What these c0ck monkeys seem to be missing, is you can tax people to death, but if you don't give them an effective alternative (cheap reliable public transport) they cannot change their behavior.
All that happens is the public have less money to spend on other goods and services which helps fuel a recession..... hang on!!!
All that happens is the public have less money to spend on other goods and services which helps fuel a recession..... hang on!!!
Presenter Susanna Reid asked Benn how increasing tax for cars as far back as 2001 would encourage people to go green. ‘Lower emitting vehicles and since three out of every four cars that is sold in the country, are actually second-hand cars, not new ones, it's important that you have a change that also applies to the second-hand market, as it does to new cars,’ added Benn.
He can't be that thick, or expect us to swollow this.
What difference does it make who owns the second hand car?
Does he want us to scrap them and buy a new one?
I can't afford to do that.
He can't be that thick, or expect us to swollow this.
What difference does it make who owns the second hand car?
Does he want us to scrap them and buy a new one?
I can't afford to do that.
Which planet does this a
hole live on?!
Unlike him, not many of us can claim travel expenses from the tax payer. Unlike him, not everyone's day job is in the City of Westminster, where the public transport infrastructure is actually rather good for the UK.
Public transport is almost always not an option in anywhere but major cities, and even then, it's not always brilliant. I, for one, live 3 miles away from the nearly train station, 2 miles away from the nearest supermarket, 20-odd miles away from my office and the "local" bus runs about once an hour.
Can the honourable please tell me how I can reasonably reduce my dependence on my car?
hole live on?!Unlike him, not many of us can claim travel expenses from the tax payer. Unlike him, not everyone's day job is in the City of Westminster, where the public transport infrastructure is actually rather good for the UK.
Public transport is almost always not an option in anywhere but major cities, and even then, it's not always brilliant. I, for one, live 3 miles away from the nearly train station, 2 miles away from the nearest supermarket, 20-odd miles away from my office and the "local" bus runs about once an hour.
Can the honourable
please tell me how I can reasonably reduce my dependence on my car?Firing me from my job would also give me an 'incentive' to stop using my car so much...but it wouldn't be a good thing would it? I have looked into getting public transport to work and it just isn't possible...it'll take over an hour (by car it's 20mins or so) and be more expensive...and involve a long walk down a fast road with no pavements (also makes cycling tricky)
The main use for my car is to get too/from work, it's the same for a lot of other people. I can't stop driving if the government want me to carry on working. How about you put some of the taxes we pay on petrol/VED into developing hydrogen fule stations, bio fuel and electric cars? hu? that might help.
The main use for my car is to get too/from work, it's the same for a lot of other people. I can't stop driving if the government want me to carry on working. How about you put some of the taxes we pay on petrol/VED into developing hydrogen fule stations, bio fuel and electric cars? hu? that might help.
Edited by varsas on Monday 14th July 12:50
Does anyone know if there are any studies showing the REAL impact on the levels of traffic as a result of the fuel price increases?
It would be a minor consolation that in the future ( after I have lost my job, the economy has crumbled and petrol is £10.99 a litre) I would be able to spend some of my life savings filling my car up and enjoying traffic free roads!
It would be a minor consolation that in the future ( after I have lost my job, the economy has crumbled and petrol is £10.99 a litre) I would be able to spend some of my life savings filling my car up and enjoying traffic free roads!
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