RE: Benn: High Fuel Prices An 'Incentive'
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Yeah I'm sure he has a real problem finding the extra cash needed to make those essential work trips without which you can't make a living. Mr second home subsidy. He really should think before coming out with comments like that. Doesn't help anybody. What a fool.
my email
"Dear Sir,
Just read the media coverage of your comments and if accurate, they're not particularly helpful to people in rural areas that have to travel a fair distance to work in order to earn a living. Sadly we can't get a second home subsidy to be closer.
Yours Sincerely"
You could read it as a Derek and Clive letter to the head of the BBC.
my email
"Dear Sir,
Just read the media coverage of your comments and if accurate, they're not particularly helpful to people in rural areas that have to travel a fair distance to work in order to earn a living. Sadly we can't get a second home subsidy to be closer.
Yours Sincerely"
You could read it as a Derek and Clive letter to the head of the BBC.
Edited by Mr M on Tuesday 15th July 13:50
Edited by Mr M on Tuesday 15th July 16:55
What a tit!
Like most people on this forum public transport isn't a viable alternative for me.
I work varying shifts on a five week rota so my days start at 7am so I'm up at 5am to start travelling to work. At 5 there is no public transport around and even the trains to my work area don't run until 7am so I'd be late already. Some of my evening shifts finish at 3am so again public transport doesn't run at those times so I'm stuck with the car. I'm sure a push bike could be used but it would take me a few hours to cycle to work along very quick a-roads that have no cycle ways. At the end of the day I don't fancy cycling for up to 4 hours each day to get to and from work.
What really tickled me was on this blokes website is a link http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/.
These tools are driving most people down that road (pardon the pun)!
Like most people on this forum public transport isn't a viable alternative for me.
I work varying shifts on a five week rota so my days start at 7am so I'm up at 5am to start travelling to work. At 5 there is no public transport around and even the trains to my work area don't run until 7am so I'd be late already. Some of my evening shifts finish at 3am so again public transport doesn't run at those times so I'm stuck with the car. I'm sure a push bike could be used but it would take me a few hours to cycle to work along very quick a-roads that have no cycle ways. At the end of the day I don't fancy cycling for up to 4 hours each day to get to and from work.
What really tickled me was on this blokes website is a link http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/.
These tools are driving most people down that road (pardon the pun)!
I like the way he uses words like "incentive" and "encourage", when what he means is "force" people to drive less, or "bully" people into going green.
He's certainly given me an "incentive" to vote for someone else and I "encourage" him and the bunch of
s he represents to leave office...
He's certainly given me an "incentive" to vote for someone else and I "encourage" him and the bunch of
s he represents to leave office...some incentive and what is the incentive in being skint, being told that new labour oppose inflation busting pay rises, that to use your car and be taxed off the road is for our own good bulls**t.
to be told that the credit crunch will see you out of work jobless homeless how long will it be till the cost of going to work under your own steam outways what you will earn you may laugh but given the fact that all politicians are out to line there own pockets and could not give a sh*t about you its only a matter of time i dont expect the next bunch of tossers through parliment will change anything just different wrapping of the same sh*t rant over
to be told that the credit crunch will see you out of work jobless homeless how long will it be till the cost of going to work under your own steam outways what you will earn you may laugh but given the fact that all politicians are out to line there own pockets and could not give a sh*t about you its only a matter of time i dont expect the next bunch of tossers through parliment will change anything just different wrapping of the same sh*t rant over
Some people posting here are either very young, have limited memory, or if they voted for the shower of sh*t we call a government, probably have less than one brain cell firing at any one time (these you can tell easily, because when asked why they voted labour, the usual reply is " because I allways vote labour!", Thats about as much thought as they put into it.
If they cared to look back at the history of this country, they will see that whenever the shower get into power, they completely f*ck the country up, and it takes the next administration at least five years to clear up the mess that labour ALLWAYs leaves behind them.
Not that the tories are much better, but in no way shape or form have they ever been as bad at running the country.
It was the tories who wrung concessions from the EU which saved the UK tax payer hard earned cash.
It was labour who capitulated to the EU, and then gave those hard won concessions away costing the UK tax payer millions which went into the black hole of the EU.
It was the tories who went into war over the Falklands, and WON.
It was labour who got us committed to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Have we won those, NO our troops are still dying from that commitment, and the one who got us into it is swanning around the world earning millions from making after dinner speeches.
Labour sold off the UK gold reserves to the French for an all time low price. Seen the price of gold lately?
Gordon Brown raided and destroyed UK pension funds of millions of people.
The tories inherited a country on its knees when they took over from the previous shower of sh*t, with three day weeks, power cuts, strikes, shortages, rubbish piled high in the streets, and managed to turn the UK around.
Labour inherited a strong UK economy, when they came into power, and have managed to destroy it in a few years.
Make no doubt the tories are not likely to be much better, but also be in ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT, NO modern UK government will be as bad as the shower of sh*t have been for the people of the UK.
If they cared to look back at the history of this country, they will see that whenever the shower get into power, they completely f*ck the country up, and it takes the next administration at least five years to clear up the mess that labour ALLWAYs leaves behind them.
Not that the tories are much better, but in no way shape or form have they ever been as bad at running the country.
It was the tories who wrung concessions from the EU which saved the UK tax payer hard earned cash.
It was labour who capitulated to the EU, and then gave those hard won concessions away costing the UK tax payer millions which went into the black hole of the EU.
It was the tories who went into war over the Falklands, and WON.
It was labour who got us committed to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Have we won those, NO our troops are still dying from that commitment, and the one who got us into it is swanning around the world earning millions from making after dinner speeches.
Labour sold off the UK gold reserves to the French for an all time low price. Seen the price of gold lately?
Gordon Brown raided and destroyed UK pension funds of millions of people.
The tories inherited a country on its knees when they took over from the previous shower of sh*t, with three day weeks, power cuts, strikes, shortages, rubbish piled high in the streets, and managed to turn the UK around.
Labour inherited a strong UK economy, when they came into power, and have managed to destroy it in a few years.
Make no doubt the tories are not likely to be much better, but also be in ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT, NO modern UK government will be as bad as the shower of sh*t have been for the people of the UK.
peter pan said:
Some people posting here are either very young, have limited memory, or if they voted for the shower of sh*t we call a government, probably have less than one brain cell firing at any one time (these you can tell easily, because when asked why they voted labour, the usual reply is " because I allways vote labour!", Thats about as much thought as they put into it.
If they cared to look back at the history of this country, they will see that whenever the shower get into power, they completely f*ck the country up, and it takes the next administration at least five years to clear up the mess that labour ALLWAYs leaves behind them.
Not that the tories are much better, but in no way shape or form have they ever been as bad at running the country.
It was the tories who wrung concessions from the EU which saved the UK tax payer hard earned cash.
It was labour who capitulated to the EU, and then gave those hard won concessions away costing the UK tax payer millions which went into the black hole of the EU.
It was the tories who went into war over the Falklands, and WON.
It was labour who got us committed to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Have we won those, NO our troops are still dying from that commitment, and the one who got us into it is swanning around the world earning millions from making after dinner speeches.
Labour sold off the UK gold reserves to the French for an all time low price. Seen the price of gold lately?
Gordon Brown raided and destroyed UK pension funds of millions of people.
The tories inherited a country on its knees when they took over from the previous shower of sh*t, with three day weeks, power cuts, strikes, shortages, rubbish piled high in the streets, and managed to turn the UK around.
Labour inherited a strong UK economy, when they came into power, and have managed to destroy it in a few years.
Make no doubt the tories are not likely to be much better, but also be in ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT, NO modern UK government will be as bad as the shower of sh*t have been for the people of the UK.
Very true - unfortunately i was one of those taken in first time round by Blair's spin, but as sure as night follows day every time this party get into power they bankrupt the country.If they cared to look back at the history of this country, they will see that whenever the shower get into power, they completely f*ck the country up, and it takes the next administration at least five years to clear up the mess that labour ALLWAYs leaves behind them.
Not that the tories are much better, but in no way shape or form have they ever been as bad at running the country.
It was the tories who wrung concessions from the EU which saved the UK tax payer hard earned cash.
It was labour who capitulated to the EU, and then gave those hard won concessions away costing the UK tax payer millions which went into the black hole of the EU.
It was the tories who went into war over the Falklands, and WON.
It was labour who got us committed to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Have we won those, NO our troops are still dying from that commitment, and the one who got us into it is swanning around the world earning millions from making after dinner speeches.
Labour sold off the UK gold reserves to the French for an all time low price. Seen the price of gold lately?
Gordon Brown raided and destroyed UK pension funds of millions of people.
The tories inherited a country on its knees when they took over from the previous shower of sh*t, with three day weeks, power cuts, strikes, shortages, rubbish piled high in the streets, and managed to turn the UK around.
Labour inherited a strong UK economy, when they came into power, and have managed to destroy it in a few years.
Make no doubt the tories are not likely to be much better, but also be in ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT, NO modern UK government will be as bad as the shower of sh*t have been for the people of the UK.
Foolish as i was voting for these first time around i wont make the same mistake again.
From my last two jobs, neither were better time or cost wise when using public transport. In fact for both journey times were at least double when using public transport.
Now my career has taken me to London, I must pay twice as much as I would compared to when I was driving a 50-mile round trip to be in a dirty, overcrowded overground train followed by an even more crowded tube system, all while still paying for a car which I need to actually get to the station (amongst other things) in the first place as the bus service is again, expensive, unreliable and will add an extra 45 minuntes to an already 12 hour day.
As someone who enjoys driving I am fed up with being persecuted (double taxation on petrol and money making VED schemes) by an incredibly short sighted and inept government who constantly insists on keeping themselves and their rich commrades in the life they have become accustomed while forcing those of us lower down the class ladder to pay for it all.
All of these tax hikes under the green monkier are IMO to cover the pension short fall, the "war" in Iraq and the other follies this government has undertaken in the name of a better Britain.
These people need to realise that they are working for US. We voted them in and I am certain that when an election is held, the result will be similar to the defeat they took in the recent local elections.
Just to clarify, I did not, nor ever have or in fact ever will vote Labour.
Now my career has taken me to London, I must pay twice as much as I would compared to when I was driving a 50-mile round trip to be in a dirty, overcrowded overground train followed by an even more crowded tube system, all while still paying for a car which I need to actually get to the station (amongst other things) in the first place as the bus service is again, expensive, unreliable and will add an extra 45 minuntes to an already 12 hour day.
As someone who enjoys driving I am fed up with being persecuted (double taxation on petrol and money making VED schemes) by an incredibly short sighted and inept government who constantly insists on keeping themselves and their rich commrades in the life they have become accustomed while forcing those of us lower down the class ladder to pay for it all.
All of these tax hikes under the green monkier are IMO to cover the pension short fall, the "war" in Iraq and the other follies this government has undertaken in the name of a better Britain.
These people need to realise that they are working for US. We voted them in and I am certain that when an election is held, the result will be similar to the defeat they took in the recent local elections.
Just to clarify, I did not, nor ever have or in fact ever will vote Labour.
I think he has a point. In my opinion, the only tax on motoring should be fuel tax. I'd scrap VED and raise that money from increased fuel tax. This way you are directly taxed on the amount you drive, drivers of high consumption cars are hit harder so it's a green tax and there is no way of avoiding it. This also would encourage people to use other forms of transport.
Its been mentioned on another thread but I find it somewhat amusing that because so many people are employed by the state and are represented by unions the government have painted themselves into a position where under inflation pay rises arent going to cut it given the rising cost of everything due to fuel increases.
If he'd just cut the duty on fuel in the first place everything, statistically, would look so much more rosey for him.
If he'd just cut the duty on fuel in the first place everything, statistically, would look so much more rosey for him.
Iain H said:
Has anyone had a reply from this knobhead yet?? I am still waiting!!
Suspect I could be waiting some time!!
Suspect I could be waiting some time!!
While I personally agree with the gist of most of what's been said here, sending someone (anyone) an email basically stating 'you're a and I fully expect you to be thrown out come voting time' may not be the thing to do if you actually want some kind of response. If I were the recipient, I would be inclined to ignore the torrent of thinly veiled antagonism and while saying to myself that, indeed, you can't win 'em all.
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