RE: Dartford Crossing Sale Condemned
Discussion
Who owns this bridge, not Gordon Brown or any of his goones, we the public own this bridge, has anybody asked if we want to sell ?? we are so lilly livered as a nation, we do nothing, Who the hell does this man think he is selling our assets to finance the short term mess he and others like him have put us all in. Who elected this man to be at No 10 in England not the general public.
Rich-ard Branson should buy it !
I hate this bridge with a passion, I pity people who have to use it every day.
Luckily I use it once in a blue moon.
I expect to hear on the travel news one day that someone has a mental breakdown and just abandons their car, like that film with Michael Douglas in.
That should increase the chaos a bit more on top of the fact that people don't have the right change or the extra 50p for the toll.
A summery from Wiki.
'The tunnels and bridge are owned by the government under an early PFI scheme which funded the bridge and took on the remaining debt of the tunnel construction by Essex and Kent councils.
It is all managed now by a consortium made up of Atkins, Egis, Skanska, and Balfour Beatty.'
They send all the money up stream by G4S barge to Westminster, all 53 million per annum.
I hate this bridge with a passion, I pity people who have to use it every day.
Luckily I use it once in a blue moon.
I expect to hear on the travel news one day that someone has a mental breakdown and just abandons their car, like that film with Michael Douglas in.
That should increase the chaos a bit more on top of the fact that people don't have the right change or the extra 50p for the toll.
A summery from Wiki.
'The tunnels and bridge are owned by the government under an early PFI scheme which funded the bridge and took on the remaining debt of the tunnel construction by Essex and Kent councils.
It is all managed now by a consortium made up of Atkins, Egis, Skanska, and Balfour Beatty.'
They send all the money up stream by G4S barge to Westminster, all 53 million per annum.
Edited by pistonlager on Wednesday 14th October 09:29
I was chatting to some Highways Agency (HATOs) last night and they told me that the Darford crossing Police have now been disbanded and its now patroled by HATO's. Thus the toll no longer goes to their wages as they are now crown employees, paid for out of eveyones taxes and not toll fees.
Well if that's the case it also means that HATO's are now using blue lights! Because most certainly the tanker escort going on about 2 hours ago when I used it was still being done under blue lights by vehicles marked up as "Dartford River Crossing Patrol" in the same way it has been for years.
Why dont we have a constitution that makes govts overspend unlawful two years running, triggering immediate dissolvement, black rod stylee.
They should not be one penny in deficit year on year.
As others pointed out, selling family silver is a tory policy, labours is to squander money on nonjobs. Who can I vote for?
They should not be one penny in deficit year on year.
As others pointed out, selling family silver is a tory policy, labours is to squander money on nonjobs. Who can I vote for?
cdrx said:
Quite a lot of these state bashing threads recently. Two things amaze me:
a) the absolute stupidity of the British public
b) the hate the British public have for the state
A question for people who have been on this earth longer than me: has this ever been any different?
My thoughts exactly. Extreme short sightedness - narrow minded - and an inability to step back and see the whole picture. a) the absolute stupidity of the British public
b) the hate the British public have for the state
A question for people who have been on this earth longer than me: has this ever been any different?
The human race is doomed.
bencollins said:
As others pointed out, selling family silver is a tory policy, labours is to squander money on nonjobs. Who can I vote for?
Anyone on the scorecard - I understand UKIP, the Liberals andvarious others are normally available.
Selling the family silver does make Tory policy sound bad, but
if (and it's a big if) the private buyer runs it better than some
nameless bunch of office workers in Whitehall, then that
seems to be good news to me.
Large sections of Whitehall are notorious for not being able to run a bath,
never mind a major public enterprise employing thousands.
Doubly so in the IT area - millions of taxpayer's pounds
are regularly wasted.
silly chap said:
I can't understand why the UK government is so olloxed for money and i find it hard to believe.
It remains one of the highest taxation places in the world and yet one of the brokest.
Stop spending all the money on guns and ammo.
REDUCE OUR MILITARY EXPENDITURE IT'S EMBARRASING.
Maybe due to the lack of transparancy regarding where our taxes actually go, were taxed on everything yet the goverment never seem to have enough money for basic ameanities... It remains one of the highest taxation places in the world and yet one of the brokest.
Stop spending all the money on guns and ammo.
REDUCE OUR MILITARY EXPENDITURE IT'S EMBARRASING.
I would suggest auditing the bank of England and goverment expenditure to find out EXACTLY what is going on.
My vote would be to get back to the old days when the banks were owned by the people and actually worked for the people and to show all these fat cat bankers the door!! How do you think the rich stay rich? History has a habit of repeating itself, do the research...
98' INTEGRA said:
silly chap said:
I can't understand why the UK government is so olloxed for money and i find it hard to believe.
It remains one of the highest taxation places in the world and yet one of the brokest.
Stop spending all the money on guns and ammo.
REDUCE OUR MILITARY EXPENDITURE IT'S EMBARRASING.
Maybe due to the lack of transparancy regarding where our taxes actually go, were taxed on everything yet the goverment never seem to have enough money for basic ameanities... It remains one of the highest taxation places in the world and yet one of the brokest.
Stop spending all the money on guns and ammo.
REDUCE OUR MILITARY EXPENDITURE IT'S EMBARRASING.
I would suggest auditing the bank of England and goverment expenditure to find out EXACTLY what is going on.
My vote would be to get back to the old days when the banks were owned by the people and actually worked for the people and to show all these fat cat bankers the door!! How do you think the rich stay rich? History has a habit of repeating itself, do the research...
The biggest spend is on the criminal justice system and social housing now most of the council houses are sold. Selling council houses and not building new ones is the stupidest policy on earth, it stops people taking low income jobs when their rents are high and chokes the economy of disposable income.
TVRWannabee said:
Oooo! Are they going to sell the Isle Of Wight then? I'll have it.
Make it a motorists paradise and tax haven. First job is redesign the Needles into a huge two fingered salute towards the mainland.
Who wants in?
Hey TVR - count me in as I'm already here. Actually we have some brilliant roads for a (IOM) TT style circuit and I often do a "fast lap" in the low season... Make it a motorists paradise and tax haven. First job is redesign the Needles into a huge two fingered salute towards the mainland.
Who wants in?
Which reminds me of a recent guest: We had a high ranking banker (no, really, a banker who works in a bank as opposed to a w
ker.. oh never mind) stay here a few months go and as he supped a pint asked me "bet you were busy with the motorbike racing over here"... Struggling to keep a straight face I pointed out this is the Isle of Wight... 
and not the Isle of Man... No wonder they got us in the mess we're in... Edited by KimZ on Thursday 15th October 15:16
KimZ said:
TVRWannabee said:
Oooo! Are they going to sell the Isle Of Wight then? I'll have it.
Make it a motorists paradise and tax haven. First job is redesign the Needles into a huge two fingered salute towards the mainland.
Who wants in?
Hey TVR - count me in as I'm already here. Actually we have some brilliant roads for a (IOM) TT style circuit and I often do a "fast lap" in the low season... Make it a motorists paradise and tax haven. First job is redesign the Needles into a huge two fingered salute towards the mainland.
Who wants in?
Which reminds me of a recent guest: We had a high ranking banker (no, really, a banker who works in a bank as opposed to a w
ker.. oh never mind) stay here a few months go and as he supped a pint asked me "bet you were busy with the motorbike racing over here"... Struggling to keep a straight face I pointed out this is the Isle of Wight... and not the Isle of Man... No wonder they got us in the mess we're in... Edited by KimZ on Thursday 15th October 15:16
There clearly is a reason why the two words rhyme.If you look across the Solent, that's me waving.
I use the crossing about once a week and don't understand why everyone who uses it doesn't have a Dart Tag. Tags are free and the crossing will only cost £1 (as apposed to £1.50 for cash)?
It will also reduce congestion and emissions but also save businesses millions.
But it seems only 20% of cars have them judging by the huge queues for the cash only tills.
(also, "ABD"
)
It will also reduce congestion and emissions but also save businesses millions.
But it seems only 20% of cars have them judging by the huge queues for the cash only tills.
(also, "ABD"
) GTIR said:
I use the crossing about once a week and don't understand why everyone who uses it doesn't have a Dart Tag. Tags are free and the crossing will only cost £1 (as apposed to £1.50 for cash)?
It will also reduce congestion and emissions but also save businesses millions.
But it seems only 20% of cars have them judging by the huge queues for the cash only tills.
(also, "ABD")
Does the tag have a minimum usage?It will also reduce congestion and emissions but also save businesses millions.
But it seems only 20% of cars have them judging by the huge queues for the cash only tills.
(also, "ABD"
) The conspiracy theorists amongst us could say that the increased congestion will sway all crossing users to get tags.
Hey presto, electronic road charging.
Tag points on the M25 at M3 M4 M1 M11 M40 M20 M26 M23, Marvelous!
Foreign cars travel free for simplicity.
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