RE: New Capri For 2012
Discussion
Dimski said:
TheodoreBagwell said:
mchammer89 said:
Twin Turbo said:
Bobdenero said:
Why all nostalgic about the 'old' Capri - surely a bag of s
te if ever there was one.
Right you, outside. NOW te if ever there was one.
Nice productive comment to this nostalgic discussion from Bob there.
I also loved his view on the Sierra Cosworth.
By any chance are you at all anti Ford Bob?
As someone who mistakenly owned a MK2 Crapi, for those who get all misty eyed over them, let me spell it out - it was a pile of s
t. Dreadfully built, cart springs and awful handling, aside from the fact it was rear drive.Nastily placed switchgear (memories of the completely take your eyes off the road to see the time clock) and Seventies plastic made it for me. Oh, and for some (still) unknown reason mine leaked like a b
d, which did the electrics the world of good. Still it kept the wheezy heater in work I suppose.Take off the rose tints chaps - they were sheds.
GregE240 said:
Dimski said:
TheodoreBagwell said:
mchammer89 said:
Twin Turbo said:
Bobdenero said:
Why all nostalgic about the 'old' Capri - surely a bag of ste if ever there was one.
Right you, outside. NOW te if ever there was one.Nice productive comment to this nostalgic discussion from Bob there.
I also loved his view on the Sierra Cosworth.
By any chance are you at all anti Ford Bob?
As someone who mistakenly owned a MK2 Crapi, for those who get all misty eyed over them, let me spell it out - it was a pile of s
t. Dreadfully built, cart springs and awful handling, aside from the fact it was rear drive.Nastily placed switchgear (memories of the completely take your eyes off the road to see the time clock) and Seventies plastic made it for me. Oh, and for some (still) unknown reason mine leaked like a b
d, which did the electrics the world of good. Still it kept the wheezy heater in work I suppose.Take off the rose tints chaps - they were sheds.
VladD said:
GregE240 said:
Dimski said:
TheodoreBagwell said:
mchammer89 said:
Twin Turbo said:
Bobdenero said:
Why all nostalgic about the 'old' Capri - surely a bag of ste if ever there was one.
Right you, outside. NOW te if ever there was one.Nice productive comment to this nostalgic discussion from Bob there.
I also loved his view on the Sierra Cosworth.
By any chance are you at all anti Ford Bob?
As someone who mistakenly owned a MK2 Crapi, for those who get all misty eyed over them, let me spell it out - it was a pile of s
t. Dreadfully built, cart springs and awful handling, aside from the fact it was rear drive.Nastily placed switchgear (memories of the completely take your eyes off the road to see the time clock) and Seventies plastic made it for me. Oh, and for some (still) unknown reason mine leaked like a b
d, which did the electrics the world of good. Still it kept the wheezy heater in work I suppose.Take off the rose tints chaps - they were sheds.
t handling is mainly down to unsuitable tyres, either balloon 185 / 70 or 205 / 60 x 13. with decent brand 195 /50 x 15 its way way more predictable the wet.. ok so its still on cart srings, but they work well enough for me, the public road isnt a race track u know heheive driven some modern performance cars, nothing too fancy, but a mk2 mx5 1.8, golf mkv gti, mini cooper s, various bmws and audis
there all boring as hell compared to the capri, even the rwd ones
back in the 70's and even early 80s they sold loads of them because they were good, pound for pound nothing came close.
anyway everyone is entitled to an opinion, but what cars from the 70's were better than the capri at the same price (including running costs etc), or even near it ?
If Ford are going to make a new Capri, they should follow the exact model used for the Mustang if they are going to use the Capri name. Its simple. Design a RWD coupe with retro-styling, a low-slung long bonnet, oval-shaped side rear windows, stupid bonnet bulge, twin-headlamps, and throw in tons of options - stripes, different bonnet colours, "S" versions, high-performance wide-bodied Cologne models and all with a wide range of engines with a top-end V8.
If competitively priced, I believe these would sell like hot-cakes in the same way Mini's do in this country, both to younger people as well as people who nostalgically remember the original Capri. I know that I would order one - my Grandad had a yellow MkI, my uncle had a black 2.8injection, and my neighbour had a stunning 280 Brooklands with rare cream leather. As a child of '78 and growing up in the 80s I loved these cars to bits!!!
If they are to revive the name, they should stay true to the values that the original car stood for - cheap, affordable and fun with a list of options as long as your arm so you could personalise your own model. I believe this is one of the main factors that makes the new Mini so popular now.
The sad fact is that we all know Ford will just make a yawn-inducing rebodied FWD Mondeo/Focus based coupe with bland triangular styling and call it the "Erano" or something equally mind-numbing...
Having said that surely it can't look as bad as the new Scirocco.....can it??
If competitively priced, I believe these would sell like hot-cakes in the same way Mini's do in this country, both to younger people as well as people who nostalgically remember the original Capri. I know that I would order one - my Grandad had a yellow MkI, my uncle had a black 2.8injection, and my neighbour had a stunning 280 Brooklands with rare cream leather. As a child of '78 and growing up in the 80s I loved these cars to bits!!!
If they are to revive the name, they should stay true to the values that the original car stood for - cheap, affordable and fun with a list of options as long as your arm so you could personalise your own model. I believe this is one of the main factors that makes the new Mini so popular now.
The sad fact is that we all know Ford will just make a yawn-inducing rebodied FWD Mondeo/Focus based coupe with bland triangular styling and call it the "Erano" or something equally mind-numbing...
Having said that surely it can't look as bad as the new Scirocco.....can it??
I'd have to admit that the chance of it being rwd is slim to none. All the ford rwd platforms are much larger cars, not focus sized. The falcon is much larger than a mondeo, and the engines used in them are very large old school engines. MX5 would be the closest flatform to use, but I doubt Mazda would be sharing that, even if their majority shareholders are ford.
Rebodies focus I'm thinking.
Oh and to those who want honest rwd fun on a budget, look at nissan 200sx' loads of fun for the money.
Rebodies focus I'm thinking.
Oh and to those who want honest rwd fun on a budget, look at nissan 200sx' loads of fun for the money.
What the music in that old Crunchie advert?
"I'm so excited!.......and I just can't hide it!"
Pointer Sisters, that's it
As with other Pistonheads, can't wait to see the concept car..
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This is the best Topic 'ever' on the Pistonheads site, I've loved these cars since I was a child, and never been drawn into this 'Capri's are naff' rubbish, they've always held a high kudos for me, particulary the 2.8
.
"I'm so excited!.......and I just can't hide it!"
Pointer Sisters, that's it
As with other Pistonheads, can't wait to see the concept car
...This is the best Topic 'ever' on the Pistonheads site, I've loved these cars since I was a child, and never been drawn into this 'Capri's are naff' rubbish, they've always held a high kudos for me, particulary the 2.8
.TheodoreBagwell said:
This might be a bit controversial but does it really matter if the smaller engined models are FWD?
Only insofar as it's too expensive to engineer a car to be both rwd and fwd...they require completely different powertrain architecture, which extends to the structural side of things also...LuS1fer said:
(cough) It's a friggin' Camaro (cough)
Righto, I'll bite Yes, of course the 'chop is based off the Camaro concept, but I actually think it does more justice to the Mk3 Capri design than the Camaro concept does to the '69 Camaro it's 'sposed to represent.
Still ball-achingly gorgous though.
Oh, and try doing this in ya FWD Focus without reverting to the handbrake
Sure, the Capri had it's faults. I'm not a Professional driver (did you see what I did there?), by any means, but I never found the Capri to be an evil handler. Entertaining? Certainly. It was a car you had to respect. 160bhp may not be much in this day and age, but back then when cars were not weighed down with a tonnes worth of safety equipment, that was enough power to entertain when the mood suited. It looked great (still does), sounded superb and was even practical (yep, we did a 4-up holiday to the Isle of Wight once!). It had the most important thing of all though......character.
The only car that comes even close to matching these traits now is the new Mustang, which is why I'd rather Ford didn't bother with a new Capri. Either take the Mustang as its base, or don't bother at all.
Edited by Twin Turbo on Wednesday 26th March 13:58
Just as a slight OT.
There's all these supercar clubs etc. knocking around, but wouldn't it be cool if someone did an "old school heroes" club.
Ford Capri 2.8
Mk1 & Mk2 Escort RS2000.
FIAT X1/9
Mk1 Golf GTi
Mk1 Scirocco Storm
Pug 205 GTi 1.9.
Cheap membership but well looked after cars. Would be cool to bring back a few memories on the odd weekend or get to drive the cars you loved when you were young but never got round to having a go in.
Anyone fancy setting up the PH car club?
Any other cars you'd add to (or remove from) the list?
Should this be a separate thread?
There's all these supercar clubs etc. knocking around, but wouldn't it be cool if someone did an "old school heroes" club.
Ford Capri 2.8
Mk1 & Mk2 Escort RS2000.
FIAT X1/9
Mk1 Golf GTi
Mk1 Scirocco Storm
Pug 205 GTi 1.9.
Cheap membership but well looked after cars. Would be cool to bring back a few memories on the odd weekend or get to drive the cars you loved when you were young but never got round to having a go in.
Anyone fancy setting up the PH car club?
Any other cars you'd add to (or remove from
) the list?Should this be a separate thread?
VladD said:
Cheap membership but well looked after cars.
And therein lies the problem. Most 20+ year-old cars need a lot of TLC and to be driven sympathetically. Whereas I can imagine some of the clientele not doing that at all......and worse, the rental rates would bring the cars in reach of chavs and the uninformed who really shouldn't be allowed anywhere near good examples of the cars suggested...there's few enough good 205GTi's left now without more going hedge-hunting!
Jderh said:
Snoggledog said:
Twin Turbo said:
Getting there:
That's a pretty decent effort. Just needs the front elongated slightly and dropped a touch. 
Dimski said:
TheodoreBagwell said:
mchammer89 said:
Twin Turbo said:
Bobdenero said:
Why all nostalgic about the 'old' Capri - surely a bag of ste if ever there was one.
Right you, outside. NOW te if ever there was one.Nice productive comment to this nostalgic discussion from Bob there.
I also loved his view on the Sierra Cosworth.
By any chance are you at all anti Ford Bob?
As for the Cosworth - not driven one, but my point was that for similar money I would do as I did and take the 911, which in 9 months ownership hasnt cost me anything but petrol money
hirsty27 said:
"I'm so excited!.......and I just can't hide it!"
Yes but "I'm about to lose control and I think I like it" usually follows.... 
As for what cars were as much fun as the Capri in the 70s - Celica 2000GT, Scirocco GTi Mk 1 and Droop Snoot Firenza/2300SL spring to mind. I confess I never really liked the Capri. I drove several and they were always a great disappointment and the Firenza handled better and had coil springs. The Droop Snoot was drop dead gorgeous too.
Bobdenero said:
Not anti Ford at all, but did drive my Dads Capri and it was crap !
As for the Cosworth - not driven one, but my point was that for similar money I would do as I did and take the 911, which in 9 months ownership hasnt cost me anything but petrol money
Fair enough,As for the Cosworth - not driven one, but my point was that for similar money I would do as I did and take the 911, which in 9 months ownership hasnt cost me anything but petrol money
to each their own!
I am a ford fan, and as such I am nostalgic about the capri, and think of the cossie with reverence.
I would love to see ford make a new one, it doesn't need to be brilliant, just RWD and full of character.
I don't suppose it's really crossed anybody's mind that they should stop comparing it to a Mustang and just go and buy a Mustang. The fact that they don't rather suggests wanting a Capri is something good in theory but maybe not in practice. Mustangs are relatively cheap, plentiful, fun, characterful, cheap on insurance and VEL and have a V8. Even the V6 has 200hp.
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