RE: 007's New Motors
Thursday 24th October 2002
007's New Motors
The biggest product placement ever?
Discussion
How cool is that!
Having seen the full clip for the new Bond movie (while at the xXx screening) was it me or is the new bond villan none other than Jonny Tran from the "The Fast and The Furious"?
If it was, may Robert Cohen wssn't so far off the mark, when he claimed he'd chosen a cast that were about "to break" into the major film arena.
Whatever, the new bond film promises to be a visual feast, and it has proper brit metal in it again! What more could you want?
FTR I reckon Brosnan is the best Bond of the lot. He's cool, edgey, funny and the right look for the character. So there!
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Having seen the full clip for the new Bond movie (while at the xXx screening) was it me or is the new bond villan none other than Jonny Tran from the "The Fast and The Furious"?
If it was, may Robert Cohen wssn't so far off the mark, when he claimed he'd chosen a cast that were about "to break" into the major film arena.
Whatever, the new bond film promises to be a visual feast, and it has proper brit metal in it again! What more could you want?
FTR I reckon Brosnan is the best Bond of the lot. He's cool, edgey, funny and the right look for the character. So there!
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At a risk of fuelling the debate, I think Tim Dalton managed to most accurately convey the Bond that Fleming originally envisiged - a tortured soul, ill at ease with his role sometimes, a loose cannon, and a bit dark, mean & nasty with it.
Most of the other Bonds have concentrated on the smooth, suave, sophisticated gentleman spy, whilst Dalton's Bond had far more of Her Majesty's Hatchet Man / Paid Assasin about him.
Most of the other Bonds have concentrated on the smooth, suave, sophisticated gentleman spy, whilst Dalton's Bond had far more of Her Majesty's Hatchet Man / Paid Assasin about him.
JonRB said: At a risk of fuelling the debate, I think Tim Dalton managed to most accurately convey the Bond that Fleming originally envisiged - a tortured soul, ill at ease with his role sometimes, a loose cannon, and a bit dark, mean & nasty with it.
Most of the other Bonds have concentrated on the smooth, suave, sophisticated gentleman spy, whilst Dalton's Bond had far more of Her Majesty's Hatchet Man / Paid Assasin about him.
As a reader of the books - agreed...
He was just too short.
Brosnan is promising and from what I have read about the plot, there is a bit of "darkness" to this movie. According to rumours, the film begins as Bond is betrayed by "M". Looks like fun.
ErnestM
JonRB said: At a risk of fuelling the debate, I think Tim Dalton managed to most accurately convey the Bond that Fleming originally envisiged - a tortured soul, ill at ease with his role sometimes, a loose cannon, and a bit dark, mean & nasty with it.
Most of the other Bonds have concentrated on the smooth, suave, sophisticated gentleman spy, whilst Dalton's Bond had far more of Her Majesty's Hatchet Man / Paid Assasin about him.
Sorry Jon, you're just trying to be contraversial there mate for controversy's sake.
Every other sensible cinema goer knew he was a self-obsessed, over-rated, head in his arse, RSC cast off twat. And he couldn't act.
No wonder he only lasted two films.
For once I find myself agreeing with a Frenchman.
I'm a Bond fan and whilst not an anorak do own nearly all the Fleming books in the first edition Pan paperback (great artwork). But these days Bond films are boring formulaic nonsense. A couple of years ago I suggested to Vinny Jones (as you do - politely, via Radio 1 Simon Mayo email) that he should have a pop at the role "yeah, yeah, I'd have go at that," came the reply. "Bring a new dimension to the role for the 21st Century," he added. A couple of days later, big Sun headlines: "I want to play Bond, says Vinnie".
But I've changed my mind now and think Clive Owen should get the role, and it be done in a dark Ipcress Files style.
I'm a Bond fan and whilst not an anorak do own nearly all the Fleming books in the first edition Pan paperback (great artwork). But these days Bond films are boring formulaic nonsense. A couple of years ago I suggested to Vinny Jones (as you do - politely, via Radio 1 Simon Mayo email) that he should have a pop at the role "yeah, yeah, I'd have go at that," came the reply. "Bring a new dimension to the role for the 21st Century," he added. A couple of days later, big Sun headlines: "I want to play Bond, says Vinnie".
But I've changed my mind now and think Clive Owen should get the role, and it be done in a dark Ipcress Files style.
I suppose you could be forgiven for thinking that, but I was actually voicing a genuine opinion - I really do think Dalton was a good Bond.
GregE240 said:Sorry Jon, you're just trying to be contraversial there mate for controversy's sake.
As I understand it, Brosnan was first choice but still had contractual obligations to Remington Steele, so they gave the part to Dalton. Some time between 'License to Kill' and 'GoldenEye', Brosnan became available and got the part.
Anorak fact: 'License to Kill' was called 'License Revoked' throughout production, but some time before release it was decided that your average American wouldn't known what 'revoked' meant, so they changed the name to 'License to Kill'. Pity really, because 'License Revoked' was the more accurate name.
..in that case he'd better drop the cacky cockney accent (a la the Bourne ID) if he wants to pull it off.
Was it he that Played Chancer? If so, there could be promise in your suggestion. Especially as he's not as rakish as he once was.
The Bourne ID was a fantastic, if slightly 1D film (Got the book on my desk, starting to read it too), Who ever was involved in the choriography obviously knew their onions. There were some scarily/painfully real looking moves!
alarmeD Mouse
Was it he that Played Chancer? If so, there could be promise in your suggestion. Especially as he's not as rakish as he once was.
The Bourne ID was a fantastic, if slightly 1D film (Got the book on my desk, starting to read it too), Who ever was involved in the choriography obviously knew their onions. There were some scarily/painfully real looking moves!
alarmeD Mouse
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