hall effect TPS

hall effect TPS

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ridds

8,233 posts

245 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Luckyone said:
Stunned Monkey said:
This is what the MBE response curve looks like. You can see how there's ~0.6V between 15% (idle) and 60%.

The digital-to-analogue converter embedded within our sensor gives a resolution of ~0.004V or 0.09°. This is significantly greater than the resolution of the MBE map wink

I'd be interested to see that response curve but I can't see anything on my phone or PC....


spitfire4v8 said:
when you've gone to emerald, so you could argue you would save 600 pounds on TPS sensors towards the cost of a conversion!
Also worth noting the Emerald can be calibrated with just a couple of clicks in the standard software to work a large range of different pots should you need a new one...
Images here:




FarmyardPants

4,114 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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I’ll be investing in a pair of these. I looked into the idea some years ago but didn’t really have the time I would need to devote to it.

Hall Effect pots are an ideal solution, rugged and accurate. The benefits justify the expense IMO, given that the TPS is the primary input for the ECU. With the programmable ones being quite pricey to start with, the R&D (thanks StunnedMonkey!), plus a small market, the price they are asking seems fair.

gruffalo

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7,551 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Has anyone managed to buy these from Motorclan yet, I can't find them on their site?

Luckyone

1,056 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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gruffalo said:
Has anyone managed to buy these from Motorclan yet, I can't find them on their site?
For the 4.2


For the 4.5

Looks like they are £500 now too....



Edited by Luckyone on Thursday 30th November 09:31

Luckyone

1,056 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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ridds said:
Images here:
Thanks!

So if you had a remap on old pots & changed to these new ones, I guess you should really have a new remap too.....

Stunned Monkey

351 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Thanks chaps, yes, the price has been corrected now. Thanks also for re-producing my graphs - that'll teach me to try and embed Facebook images....

FarmyardPants

4,114 posts

219 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Luckyone said:
ridds said:
Images here:
Thanks!

So if you had a remap on old pots & changed to these new ones, I guess you should really have a new remap too.....
I was wondering the same but probably the difference is comparable to what you would see between two normal pots

Luckyone

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233 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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FarmyardPants said:
I was wondering the same but probably the difference is comparable to what you would see between two normal pots
You mean if some one had a remap with a worn out pot then fitted a replacement regular genuine good pot (back when you could get one) it would be the same?

I guess its the same as it remapped with any faults at all really....

FarmyardPants

4,114 posts

219 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Luckyone said:
FarmyardPants said:
I was wondering the same but probably the difference is comparable to what you would see between two normal pots
You mean if some one had a remap with a worn out pot then fitted a replacement regular genuine good pot (back when you could get one) it would be the same?

I guess its the same as it remapped with any faults at all really....
I mean the difference between any two random brand new pots is likely comparable to the difference between one of those and a HE version, except the latter would give a more linear and cleaner output. A remap would be ideal but (I am guessing) not strictly necessary.

ridds

8,233 posts

245 months

Monday 18th December 2023
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A remap wouldn't be required.

You would just have considerably lower and more consistent adaptive values (pending the rest of the air path controls being OK, link rods, bearing wear etc).