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Hi Gang,
Soryy to be begging during a Bank Holiday
BUT
I was trying to connect the wiring for my Oil Pressure Guage.
I am the least talented person with electrics.
In an effort to access the guages I thought that I would remove the plate in which the Clock and Petrol Guage sit.
To access the Allen screws which locate it I decided to remove the Steering Wheel
I had managed to label two of the 2-pin plugs before the event
BUT the Steering Wheel fell.
and has left the four 2-pin plugs free....
Sooooooooooooooo, mt questions are....
From what I could see, I believed that
on the Offside of the wheel
A) is Main Beam
B) is Horn
There is also a disconnected wire (U) which I believe popped out of the Horn plug.
On the Nearside of the Wheel remain
C) Wipe
D) Wash
Now, I am assuming those functions for those plugs because of the physical layout on the wheel.
Does anyone know how the plugs and pins should be connected ?
As you will see here, one of the plug wires has broken (O) just at the exit point of the wheel cover (P).
There is one Phillips screw (at point X) If I take this Phillips screw out, will I be able to remove
the covering plate (P) and access the remainder of the wire underneath ?
Sorry that had to be so complicated.
Calculus, a chokkie Bar and a view through the crack in
the Girl's Changing Room Wall for the best answers
Ta !
PJ
Soryy to be begging during a Bank Holiday
BUT
I was trying to connect the wiring for my Oil Pressure Guage.
I am the least talented person with electrics.
In an effort to access the guages I thought that I would remove the plate in which the Clock and Petrol Guage sit.
To access the Allen screws which locate it I decided to remove the Steering Wheel
I had managed to label two of the 2-pin plugs before the event
BUT the Steering Wheel fell.
and has left the four 2-pin plugs free....
Sooooooooooooooo, mt questions are....
From what I could see, I believed that
on the Offside of the wheel
A) is Main Beam
B) is Horn
There is also a disconnected wire (U) which I believe popped out of the Horn plug.
On the Nearside of the Wheel remain
C) Wipe
D) Wash
Now, I am assuming those functions for those plugs because of the physical layout on the wheel.
Does anyone know how the plugs and pins should be connected ?
As you will see here, one of the plug wires has broken (O) just at the exit point of the wheel cover (P).
There is one Phillips screw (at point X) If I take this Phillips screw out, will I be able to remove
the covering plate (P) and access the remainder of the wire underneath ?
Sorry that had to be so complicated.
Calculus, a chokkie Bar and a view through the crack in
the Girl's Changing Room Wall for the best answers
Ta !
PJ
RUSSELLM said:
Hi ya Paul.
All normally open buttons, so should have Two wires each.
My best suggestion, would be to turn the ignition on, and short out each pair of pins, to see which set of pins does what.
The connectors in your hand.... Just put a multimeter across the two wires and press a button.... When you get ‘continuity / a dead short / a noise on your multimeter’s buzzer’, you’ll know which connector goes to which button
Cheers Mate.All normally open buttons, so should have Two wires each.
My best suggestion, would be to turn the ignition on, and short out each pair of pins, to see which set of pins does what.
The connectors in your hand.... Just put a multimeter across the two wires and press a button.... When you get ‘continuity / a dead short / a noise on your multimeter’s buzzer’, you’ll know which connector goes to which button
As soon as the Easter Beers wear off I'll try and understand what you've said.
Have a good un, Kiddo !
Penelope Stopit said:
You may find this of some use for writing notes on
Taken from http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/WorkshopWiringDiagrams/St...
Cheers Pen,Taken from http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/WorkshopWiringDiagrams/St...
You're a STAR !
So... back to Work !
Rufus Roughcut said:
Did you find out which wire/plug went where?
98 4.5, my connections as follows:
1 = Headlight Flash
2 = Horn
3 = Washers/Wipers
4 = Wipers
Thanks Rufus Haven't connected the battery up yet.98 4.5, my connections as follows:
1 = Headlight Flash
2 = Horn
3 = Washers/Wipers
4 = Wipers
Still attempting to solder (Looks a bit like the closing scenes in Terminator II)
Byker28i said:
Mine looked like that, ....I replaced the wiring, the switches pushed out...
Hi Dave, thanks !Can you get the wiring, with the appropriate connectors, as a job lot somewhere or did you do it all by hand ?
Ta !
Hi Team,
Having a coupla probs with my Steering Wheels electrics.
Found that the horn cable had snapped.
Found the appaling way TVR had assembled the wheel with the cables trapped between the Boss faces.
Decided to TRY and remedy the situation.
Thought that if I threaded the cables outside the Boss then the problem would be cured.
Although I ground grooves in te Cable protection plates on the back of the wheel....
I realised that, by travelling around the outside, then the Molex Connector Housings were under too much stress on
the shorter RHS,
so
I decided to splice some cable extensions in.
Unfortunately the size of the cable junction blocks I used made it impossible to close the whole thing up while
the Boss was on the Column
so
I decided to follow Byker28i's advice and remove the Boss....
BUT
ater having removed the Steering Adjustment Bolt and unclipping the Ribbon Cables,
when I try and slide the (Triangular) column off, there is a heavy 'clunk' as the collar
- that I've labelled below (from Dave's edited pic) -
bangs into some sort of Stop that is mounted on the chassis, hanging down
Has anyone had any success with Dave's method
OR
Found an alternative way to get the Boss into your hands ?
Thanks all !
PJ
Having a coupla probs with my Steering Wheels electrics.
Found that the horn cable had snapped.
Found the appaling way TVR had assembled the wheel with the cables trapped between the Boss faces.
Decided to TRY and remedy the situation.
Thought that if I threaded the cables outside the Boss then the problem would be cured.
Although I ground grooves in te Cable protection plates on the back of the wheel....
I realised that, by travelling around the outside, then the Molex Connector Housings were under too much stress on
the shorter RHS,
so
I decided to splice some cable extensions in.
Unfortunately the size of the cable junction blocks I used made it impossible to close the whole thing up while
the Boss was on the Column
so
I decided to follow Byker28i's advice and remove the Boss....
Byker28i said:
....
"Just take the bolt out the steering column adjustment,
disconnect a blue and black plug and
disconnect the air vent pipe and ribbon cables - Voila
Now, I know that I'm a Numpty "Just take the bolt out the steering column adjustment,
disconnect a blue and black plug and
disconnect the air vent pipe and ribbon cables - Voila
BUT
ater having removed the Steering Adjustment Bolt and unclipping the Ribbon Cables,
when I try and slide the (Triangular) column off, there is a heavy 'clunk' as the collar
- that I've labelled below (from Dave's edited pic) -
bangs into some sort of Stop that is mounted on the chassis, hanging down
Has anyone had any success with Dave's method
OR
Found an alternative way to get the Boss into your hands ?
Thanks all !
PJ
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 19th May 14:28
CerbWill said:
Or you could just solder some extensions in to the steering wheel button wires and seal them up with heatshrink.
Aha ! You haven't seen my ability with a soldering iron CerbWill said:
I've removed the upper part of the steering column by undoing the 2 bolts that mount it to the cross member then you can remove it complete with the adjuster assembly, just needs the electrics disconnecting.
Done all that ! Still won't mudge !
The Clunk feels so solid that it feels as if it is an anchor in the Column
so I'm gonna take the Bolt out tomoz and watch it fall gently into my hand
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 19th May 19:41
CerbWill said:
Not sure precisely how the column adjustment lock mechanism works but I guess it needs to be unlocked for the hub end to slide off the column?
Hi Will,On the bad news front, when I extracted the adjustment mechanism it all fell into the footwell so will require some close examination when I reassemble
Byker28i said:
As for taking the column out, did you remove the bolt completely from the adjuster. You need to do that. Watch very carefully how the adjuster spaces come out as they need to go back the same way, they are angled...
Ijust took the bolt out, column dropped down and slid out.
Check for play in the steering column. The white plastic triangular piece wears and what you think is play in the steering rack is just movement between the the white plastic guide and the shaft
Thanks Dave but, as my previous photo shows, the Bolt, all the Adjusters and the Plate, through which they pass, are all out.Ijust took the bolt out, column dropped down and slid out.
Check for play in the steering column. The white plastic triangular piece wears and what you think is play in the steering rack is just movement between the the white plastic guide and the shaft
Just the belligerant, bloody Column that won't pass it's "clunk" point.
Thanks to you both for your efforts.
Gonna getta bigga 'ammer !
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