£200K to spend......suggestions on a post card?

[m33ufo]

Checked out the Scud this afternoon. Looked a very clean car. A few chips on the internal carbon door panel at the edge. Great sound on start-up.

Now awaiting some info on servicing prior to it arriving in the UK in 2015. It's had a health check by Ferrari Swindon a month ago which identified some very minor issues. Clutch at 4% wear, brakes 2% - it's done 3000 miles.

[355fiorano]

Did you drive it ? Impressions?

[m33ufo]

No....if the history checks out I'll pop back for a spin.

Question....how are they with speed bumps and awkward garages? My 996.2 GT3 always scrapes the splitter getting into the garage - which is why it's not on the car right now! No issues at all with a 991 GTS (-20mm).

[RamboLambo]

m33ufo said:

Checked out the Scud this afternoon. Looked a very clean car. A few chips on the internal carbon door panel at the edge. Great sound on start-up.

Now awaiting some info on servicing prior to it arriving in the UK in 2015. It's had a health check by Ferrari Swindon a month ago which identified some very minor issues. Clutch at 4% wear, brakes 2% - it's done 3000 miles.

White one at Porsche Cardiff by any chance ?

Nice car, Low mileage, LHD but no stripes.

Personally would pay £20k more for the 4k miles RHD black one

[m33ufo]

RamboLambo said:

White one at Porsche Cardiff by any chance ?

Nice car, Low mileage, LHD but no stripes.

Personally would pay £20k more for the 4k miles RHD black one

Yes, do you know the car?

I quite like the simplicity without stripes and I do like white. £180k feels like a lot for LHD so I’d want a few pounds off if the rest is good.

The car is on SOR and apparently "priced to sell". Of course, with respect, that's what all car dealers say

[MDL111]

I like cars without stripes

Not sure I would pay a premium for such low mileage though - that’ll erode quickly if you drive it a lot (and it is difficult not to imo)

Edit: Never had trouble with scraping - much more clearance (or at least fewer issues) than my GT2 had

Edited by MDL111 on Wednesday 1st August 21:52

[RamboLambo]

m33ufo said:

Yes, do you know the car?

I quite like the simplicity without stripes and I do like white. £180k feels like a lot for LHD so I’d want a few pounds off if the rest is good.

The car is on SOR and apparently "priced to sell". Of course, with respect, that's what all car dealers say

No sorry don't know the car but personally the stripes are a big factor defining the scud for me and they were not cheap from factory.

If you were to factor that in you are not far off the £200k black car which is 1k more but RHD which makes it a far better overall proposition IMHO and easier to sell on if you want to do that at some stage.

If you are going to be using it abroad a lot then LHD is better but TBH I think LHD puts off most people, myself included and will seriously limit your resale market.
Also as an investment RHD cars are far rarer.

If I had a spare £200k cash at this point of time I would of bought the black one by now

[m33ufo]

MDL111 said:

I like cars without stripes

Not sure I would pay a premium for such low mileage though - that’ll erode quickly if you drive it a lot (and it is difficult not to imo)

Edit: Never had trouble with scraping - much more clearance (or at least fewer issues) than my GT2 had

Agreed on the mileage premium but it seems to be reflected in the overall condition.

My 996 GT3 is marginally lower than my old 996 GT2. Good to know that the Scud is less problematic.

[355fiorano]

That white one is beautiful. Also, I bought my CS from DL and have it serviced there and they have been fantastic pre and post sale.
The black one at Leven has had its carbon door panels cut to put in speakers and has a heavy looking ICE in the boot. It makes no sense to me to buy a car like a Scud that has been made lightweight and loud and then spend money to make it heavier and get a high end sound system that you will never be able to appreciate on the move (or even at idle for that matter)

As for ride height, one of my good friends that has one has not had any problems and he lives in SW London. I on the other hand have huge issues with my 355 and have also managed to scrape the CS on a couple of bumps. BTW he has had it for 3yrs and has been saying recently that he may sell it. Its LHD, black (with stripes) with I think 22k miles and he services it at HR Owen. If you are interested in a private sale then I can ask.

[MDL111]

At that price point, I kinda agree with Rambo that I would start looking for RHD in the UK.

LHD I would want to get a higher mileage car for less money
I paid 150k euros for mine last October with 51k km and price have dropped since then imo, so should be able to pick up a cheaper car (or lower mileage at same price if so inclined)

[PompeyReece]

m33ufo said:

Question on the 430 Scud....

How many U.K. rhd units were produced?

I’m not against lhd, especially as it’s a paddle shift. Any issues with buying a lhd example?

Didn’t get an opportunity to view the one I had intended to today but hopefully tomorrow.

I found this place the other day, never heard of it before but a good source of car registration numbers.

Here are the Ferrari 430 figures which you have to take with a pinch of salt as the system is only as accurate as the data but still is a good guide. Data pulled from the DVLA but can't see a distinction between LHD and RHD:

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&...

[Wilmslowboy]

m33ufo said:

I've recently sold both my 911's with the intention of getting into a 991.1 GT3 RS, and this will more than likely be my next car. However, given that the market for this model currently looks flat, and prices are falling, I'm trying my hardest to hold back just a little until I spot a degree of stability. This of course is much easier said than done when one has the cash available and there are so many shiny cars calling to me!

So, by way of distraction, with a firm budget of £200K what would you buy??

I'm currently in the same position, and come to the conclusion anything and (perhaps everything) at this price point is on to lose £30k to £50k in the next 2 years - including (perhaps especially) froffy Ferrari's like the Scud etc

So options are either hold out (and have nothing) or buy the best car to enjoy...

After 2 Mclarens (and the cost of the last 12 months being close to £30k) ...I thought I had scratched that itch.........but I'm now finding myslef pondeing a 3rd, ... 720s - has to be a best bang for buck at £200k ??

Other options for me are 991 GT3 RS (at £150k if i can find one) or a GT4 at half that.
All will lose 20% (give or take) in the next 2 years - so down to which gives the most fizz to bucks ratio.

PS - If there is a small correction, a Performante could drop into budget.....

[m33ufo]

There's a 4000 mile LHD Scud advertised on PH at The Octane Collection. That's up at £154K. Is this more representitive of the real value of the white car?

I know values are a contentious and somewhat subjective question but very relevant when considering a purchase.

[Ferruccio]

Stripes definitely make a car go much faster.
Scientists have proved it.

[KenC]

m33ufo said:

There's a 4000 mile LHD Scud advertised on PH at The Octane Collection. That's up at £154K. Is this more representitive of the real value of the white car?

I know values are a contentious and somewhat subjective question but very relevant when considering a purchase.

Very wooly words about the service history on this one. Only ever been serviced by Ferrari - could mean only one service. Serviced on arrival into the UK - that was nearly two years ago. Service history included - a bad history is a history.

Clearly that needs to be checked out.

[m33ufo]

Wilmslowboy said:

I'm currently in the same position, and come to the conclusion anything and (perhaps everything) at this price point is on to lose £30k to £50k in the next 2 years - including (perhaps especially) froffy Ferrari's like the Scud etc

So options are either hold out (and have nothing) or buy the best car to enjoy...

After 2 Mclarens (and the cost of the last 12 months being close to £30k) ...I thought I had scratched that itch.........but I'm now finding myslef pondeing a 3rd, ... 720s - has to be a best bang for buck at £200k ??

Other options for me are 991 GT3 RS (at £150k if i can find one) or a GT4 at half that.
All will lose 20% (give or take) in the next 2 years - so down to which gives the most fizz to bucks ratio.

PS - If there is a small correction, a Performante could drop into budget.....

The only McLaren I'm semi considering is the 675LT - that will need to clubbed down on price over the next few months. Similar story with the Performante. Both a really nice idea but will require a small shift in the market to make viable.

The 488 is appealing as is the Scud but as of right now I'm still most likely to jump into a 991.1 RS if I can find the right car. Hoping for a nice PTS

[m33ufo]

KenC said:

Very wooly words about the service history on this one. Only ever been serviced by Ferrari - could mean only one service. Serviced on arrival into the UK - that was nearly two years ago. Service history included - a bad history is a history.

Clearly that needs to be checked out.

It's had two services at Ferrari Swindon since entering the UK - I viewed the details of those yesterday via the online system at Dick Lovett Porsche in Cardiff. I'm awaiting clarification of the history prior to this although was advised that it has a "full service history".

We'll see.

[johnnyreggae]

I could be mistaken but the red one sounds like a car that has been discussed here before - maybe even ex-PH owner - try looking through older Scud threads

[355fiorano]

m33ufo said:

There's a 4000 mile LHD Scud advertised on PH at The Octane Collection. That's up at £154K. Is this more representitive of the real value of the white car?

I know values are a contentious and somewhat subjective question but very relevant when considering a purchase.

A very good resource is www.clubstradale.com as it captures all historical ads of Scuds and CS

The Octane car has been for sale for 1.5 yrs: https://clubstradale.com/ferrari-430-scuderia-s-fo...
I quite like the blue and could live with the seats but that steering wheel ....

And this looks to be the black car from Laven now: https://clubstradale.com/ferrari-430-scuderia-s-fo...

[m33ufo]

Really interesting - thanks