458 Speciale

[APOLO1]

GrahamPM said:

APOLO1 - you keep referring to a 458SP; just curious, do mean Spider or Speciale?

Sorry....Speciale....

Also sorry for the low ball on the 991 prices...Only a few 991tts left.....I have no doubt that the 991s value reflected the tts at list

[moc]

Just bringing things back to the car - having seen it in the metal last night at the Leeds launch, pretty disappointed by a couple of little details, first the passenger foot wells are no longer metal as in CS and Scud but have now gained feux metal plastic covers, and also as have recent other models we have the fake 'saxmax' over sized exhaust tips, come on Ferrari this is supposed to be a work of art not a Focus RS

Edited by moc on Wednesday 9th October 13:37

[APOLO1]

TP321 said:

APOLO1 - who are you?? I dont think i have ever come across anyone on here who is so well connected in the motor industry, and has access to the top cars so early on.

lol...there are others above me on here.... Although it was nice to be before Slow hands on the 4.2 Cayenne.....


Off Topic any one going to WAKE of well respected PHer on Monday?

[sone]

TP321 said:

APOLO1 said:

It was not on my radar.. How ever I have good contact at the Factory going back to 98 when I was the lead sponsor to the F1 team that is now LHs. I have complained to the factory about the way my 458SP order has been dealt with. Looks like I can now have an early RHD, With regard to the La Ferrari, Maybe

APOLO1 - who are you?? I dont think i have ever come across anyone on here who is so well connected in the motor industry, and has access to the top cars so early on.

Do you expect an answer, I wouldn't maybe Bernie Ecclestone

[APOLO1]

moc said:

Just bringing things back to the car - having seen it in the metal last night at the Leeds launch, pretty disappointed by a couple of little details, first the passenger foot wells are not longer metal as in CS and Scud but have now gained feux metal plastic covers, and also as have recent other models we have the fake 'saxmax' over sized exhaust tips, come on Ferrari this is supposed to be a work of art not a Focus RS

The F1 team and Drivers at the time had massive amount of input into the 430 Scud. I think it was KR who had the final say on the suspension. I just don't see this level of input in the SP..IMHO

I well recall the comment from the head of aero at the time... please don't think of the SCUD as a 430...It just happens to be the body that we have at the time....I had the 1st one in the UK...Got kicked of 4 track days...128db, The only Ferrari I have ever driven that felt it had more power than quoted.....

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 9th October 13:49

[KenC]

APOLO1 said:

The F1 team and Drivers at the time had massive amount of input into the 430 Scud. I think it was KR who had the final say on the suspension. I just don't see this level of input in the SP..IMHO

I thought it was MS as the button to change the suspension setting on its own was often referred to as the MS button. I could be wrong though.

[APOLO1]

KenC said:

I thought it was MS as the button to change the suspension setting on its own was often referred to as the MS button. I could be wrong though.

It was MS at the start....But I seem to recall KR, having the final say in later stages....

[GrahamPM]

APOLO1 said:

The 458 is a good car, for me its not a great car...I had a good run in 458SP a few months back.....struggled to shake off a well driven M3V8.

Edited by APOLO1 on Tuesday 8th October 07:38

As far as I understand, there is currently only ONE 458 Speciale that Ferrari have produced - the car that is doing the rounds now! How did Mr APOLO1 manage to drive it, months before the launch?????? Is he the STIG??
It's getting a bit like 'Through the keyhole....
G

[petrolstation]

moc said:

Just bringing things back to the car - having seen it in the metal last night at the Leeds launch, pretty disappointed by a couple of little details, first the passenger foot wells are no longer metal as in CS and Scud but have now gained feux metal plastic covers, and also as have recent other models we have the fake 'saxmax' over sized exhaust tips, come on Ferrari this is supposed to be a work of art not a Focus RS

Edited by moc on Wednesday 9th October 13:37

Was that your Black CS parked at the front?............

[moc]

It wasn't mine it was 'Bromers' but yes that's what we came in.

[tony h]

GrahamPM said:

As far as I understand, there is currently only ONE 458 Speciale that Ferrari have produced - the car that is doing the rounds now! How did Mr APOLO1 manage to drive it, months before the launch?????? Is he the STIG??
It's getting a bit like 'Through the keyhole....
G

he means 458 SPider

[APOLO1]

GrahamPM said:

As far as I understand, there is currently only ONE 458 Speciale that Ferrari have produced - the car that is doing the rounds now! How did Mr APOLO1 manage to drive it, months before the launch?????? Is he the STIG??
It's getting a bit like 'Through the keyhole....
G

Respectfully......I have never said that I have driven the Speciale....I have only seen the car at Frankfurt.....I have driven the 458 Spider a few times the last time a could not shake off a well driven M3V8 on the twisty bits

[tony h]

moc said:

Just bringing things back to the car - having seen it in the metal last night at the Leeds launch, pretty disappointed by a couple of little details, first the passenger foot wells are no longer metal as in CS and Scud but have now gained feux metal plastic covers, and also as have recent other models we have the fake 'saxmax' over sized exhaust tips, come on Ferrari this is supposed to be a work of art not a Focus RS

Edited by moc on Wednesday 9th October 13:37

i prfer the metal mats to the rubber CS ones. been thru 3 sets cos the screws holes are so weak

[APOLO1]

My Last Post on this.... tifosi section.....Good luck Guys....

[WCZ]

APOLO1 said:

My Last Post on this.... tifosi section.....Good luck Guys....

no one's having a go at you imo (if you're getting that impression, can't tell!)

would love a 458sp but my financial situation atm isn't good enough to accommodate for the depreciation etc.

[andy74b]

APOLO1 said:

Off Topic any one going to WAKE of well respected PHer on Monday?

Yes. Would be good to meet you.

[m30dus]

Couldn't make the invitation event at HR Owen but did get the brochure through. Some nice options, like track cameras, lap timing, etc. Photos of the event look better than those in the brochure - first reaction was yak!!

[woppum]

APOLO1 said:

The F1 team and Drivers at the time had massive amount of input into the 430 Scud. I think it was KR who had the final say on the suspension. I just don't see this level of input in the SP..IMHO

I well recall the comment from the head of aero at the time... please don't think of the SCUD as a 430...It just happens to be the body that we have at the time....I had the 1st one in the UK...Got kicked of 4 track days...128db, The only Ferrari I have ever driven that felt it had more power than quoted.....

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 9th October 13:49

128db ? What zorst did you put on, I found it fairly quiet as stock, certainly not as loud as a 458.

[Radders]

had a good look at the speciale last night and i am impressed. the car is considerably improved over the standard italia and i doubt you will see fake versions driving around town in the future. its almost a new car visually and really looks "speciale" lol

previous road race versions (strad and scud) have not differed too much from the standard car visually so its nice to see huge design features applied to the new car. you used to get less and pay more, for the first time you're actually getting more for your money.

priced at 208k + options i think it about right but based on it being released so early in the 458's life cycle i expect production numbers to be quite high. strad and scuds were done end of line, especially the strad and kept quite exclusive.

im sold on it and couldn't give a hoot about depreciation as i use my cars.

[A4B]

I was at Graypaul Notts last night and they even fired her up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYRCSO2IRcA