McLaren 720s at £130,000

McLaren 720s at £130,000

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av185

18,610 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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rich12 said:
ferdi p said:
Plenty of 488's in a similar position, 2016 & 2018 cars priced the same, same colour & similar miles too!

I personally think silver is a tough sell on a 720s, reduces the amount of buyers significantly imo.
Same could be said for any top end car.
Resale silver has never applied to supercars.
Not really.

Depends on the supercar.

And depends on the silver.

Gaudy colours come and go. But classic colours always sell well and look cool.

Traditional German classic silver racing colour speaks volumes.

This sold in 3 days btw


Edited by av185 on Wednesday 15th April 22:06

rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Right so rather than just admit you knew exactly the sort of cars I'm talking about, we're no showing examples of rarer than rare silly expensive cars that could be pink and still sell easily?

It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.

Lee Jones Jnr

1,724 posts

171 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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rich12 said:
Right so rather than just admit you knew exactly the sort of cars I'm talking about, we're no showing examples of rarer than rare silly expensive cars that could be pink and still sell easily?

It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.
Don’t get angry about strangers on the internet, WGAF anyway?

rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
Don’t get angry about strangers on the internet, WGAF anyway?
Had to Google WGAF lol.
Not angry, just don't see the point in people trying to prove people wrong for no reason.
This is finally a decent thread about McLaren for once so don't want it derailed.

FezSpider

1,051 posts

233 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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rich12 said:
Not angry, just don't see the point in people trying to prove people wrong for no reason.
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Unfortunately that is the way certain forms roll.
When I saw the colour " silver" re sale thing.
I thought to my self a few will now dig up every silver supercar to prove a point wink

ferdi p

1,519 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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rich12 said:
Right so rather than just admit you knew exactly the sort of cars I'm talking about, we're no showing examples of rarer than rare silly expensive cars that could be pink and still sell easily?

It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.
Don't listen to him, it was that or a silver CGT! He does love a porker that boy smile

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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av185 said:
This sold in 3 days btw

Why is that Arctic Boxster so expensive you can get one for £2500

MDL111

6,998 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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av185 said:
rich12 said:
ferdi p said:
Plenty of 488's in a similar position, 2016 & 2018 cars priced the same, same colour & similar miles too!

I personally think silver is a tough sell on a 720s, reduces the amount of buyers significantly imo.
Same could be said for any top end car.
Resale silver has never applied to supercars.
Not really.

Depends on the supercar.

And depends on the silver.

Gaudy colours come and go. But classic colours always sell well and look cool.

Traditional German classic silver racing colour speaks volumes.

This sold in 3 days btw


Edited by av185 on Wednesday 15th April 22:06
I agree - color preferences change over time (for a while white seemed to be the colour to have, about the time then 640LP was new I think (Porsche Gt cars excluded, for those white was always popular due to racing). Now it is - imo very challenging - “smarties” colors - wouldn’t surprise me if in a decade people will look at those and prefer more classical colours such as a silver, black, red, blue version of the same model

MDL111

6,998 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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I had a silver 355 and had to wait quite a long time for one to come up for sale - plenty of red ones around. In my opinion it was one of the top 3 colours for the car together with blue and green.

cayman-black

12,699 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Funny silver is one colour i really don't like,.

Lee Jones Jnr

1,724 posts

171 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Colours are all down to taste.
Silver Ferrari’s have generally looked pretty good to me (355, 360, 430, 612) but I suspect that they may gain a bit of gravitas in my eyes just because there aren’t many around. Of course, that is because few people bought them from new...
XJ220 looks great in silver but it looks great in any colour and it’s from a million years ago when scientists had only discovered two or three colours.

andrew

9,985 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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cayman-black said:
Funny silver is one colour i really don't like,.
tbh, your name somehow hints at that

Calculator

747 posts

216 months

Sunday 19th April 2020
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Interesting that the silver ‘quick sale’ car still looks to be available.

cayman-black

12,699 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th April 2020
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andrew said:
tbh, your name somehow hints at that
laugh

cayman-black

12,699 posts

217 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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scotty1

477 posts

217 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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av185 said:
The difference between Porsche GT limited run and Mclaren is not just oversupply of overpriced Mclarens and in contrast limited Porsches GTs available of the right spec but crucially the Porsches are deliberately underpriced when new for brand filtering purposes...as you rightly say Porsche are masters at marketing.

This has contributed to the heady premiums we have witnessed since the 991.1 GT3 of 2013 (332 UK cars) continuing with the GT4, Spyder and 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS.

Quite remarkable that even 6 year old 25K mile GT3s are still retailing just under list ££ which further confirms the obvious underpricing when new and their overall ability at the price relative to what little competition from other manufacturers.

Ferraris and certain Lamborghinis (Performante) are a different ball game and whilst the vanilla 488 and to a degree 458 will suffer further, Specialies and Pistas will show far better resilience again largely down to limited numbers and overall desirability.

Crucially, unlike many Porsches GTs, many of the above cars are grossly overpriced new, which combined with oversupply is truly a killer depreciation wise particularly now when things get tough.
I've recently bought a 600LT (my timing is atrocious), I came from a 991.1 GT3 and considered a move to a 991.2 but when I compared the price of 600 to the porsche I couldn't bring myself to go for Porsche as they seemed over priced. I was also under the impression that they made approx 2k RHD 991.2 GT3s so the're not that limited either. I have a knack for losing money so it will no doubt prove to be a mistake but still the 600LT is a far better car for the money (imo at least). How they hold up, time will tell but the 600lt at sub 100k would be an absolute bargain imo and if (when) they drop to that there will be some smiley people around (not me obviously smile

JulierPass

641 posts

231 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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scotty1 said:
av185 said:
The difference between Porsche GT limited run and Mclaren is not just oversupply of overpriced Mclarens and in contrast limited Porsches GTs available of the right spec but crucially the Porsches are deliberately underpriced when new for brand filtering purposes...as you rightly say Porsche are masters at marketing.

This has contributed to the heady premiums we have witnessed since the 991.1 GT3 of 2013 (332 UK cars) continuing with the GT4, Spyder and 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS.

Quite remarkable that even 6 year old 25K mile GT3s are still retailing just under list ££ which further confirms the obvious underpricing when new and their overall ability at the price relative to what little competition from other manufacturers.

Ferraris and certain Lamborghinis (Performante) are a different ball game and whilst the vanilla 488 and to a degree 458 will suffer further, Specialies and Pistas will show far better resilience again largely down to limited numbers and overall desirability.

Crucially, unlike many Porsches GTs, many of the above cars are grossly overpriced new, which combined with oversupply is truly a killer depreciation wise particularly now when things get tough.
I've recently bought a 600LT (my timing is atrocious), I came from a 991.1 GT3 and considered a move to a 991.2 but when I compared the price of 600 to the porsche I couldn't bring myself to go for Porsche as they seemed over priced. I was also under the impression that they made approx 2k RHD 991.2 GT3s so the're not that limited either. I have a knack for losing money so it will no doubt prove to be a mistake but still the 600LT is a far better car for the money (imo at least). How they hold up, time will tell but the 600lt at sub 100k would be an absolute bargain imo and if (when) they drop to that there will be some smiley people around (not me obviously smile
I own several GT cars. I got to have an extensive drive including a good 30 min session round spa in a 600LT last summer. They are hands down better than a GT3. There seems to be an obsession with a large % of GT3 owners regarding values which makes you wonder if they depreciated like other super cars if they would be as popular? In any case i will be shopping for a Mac in the near future. I think they are a fantastic used buy and I think most people who knock them simply haven’t driven one!

AndrewD

7,551 posts

285 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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R - you will love the 600LT. I’ve had my spider since Jan and it is just wonderful. Not driven any of my 911’s since I got the McL.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Are you happy with how it sounds?

AndrewD

7,551 posts

285 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Gameface said:
Are you happy with how it sounds?
It sounds great - either with roof off or with the rear screen open, as the exhausts aren’t far from your ears. It’s not a high pitched howl but it gets the hairs tingling and adds to the sense of speed and excitement. And then there are the pops and cracks and occasionally the flames smile

I was very sceptical about McL but they offered some great deals late last year and I’ve been bowled over by the car. There are some drawbacks - it has so many nooks and crannies and cleaning it takes forever. And the scissor doors trap stones and road grime at the bottom so I can imagine that being a source of rust. But very little else to complain about really.