McLaren 720s at £130,000
Discussion
rich12 said:
ferdi p said:
Plenty of 488's in a similar position, 2016 & 2018 cars priced the same, same colour & similar miles too!
I personally think silver is a tough sell on a 720s, reduces the amount of buyers significantly imo.
Same could be said for any top end car. I personally think silver is a tough sell on a 720s, reduces the amount of buyers significantly imo.
Resale silver has never applied to supercars.
Depends on the supercar.
And depends on the silver.
Gaudy colours come and go. But classic colours always sell well and look cool.
Traditional German classic silver racing colour speaks volumes.
This sold in 3 days btw
Edited by av185 on Wednesday 15th April 22:06
rich12 said:
Right so rather than just admit you knew exactly the sort of cars I'm talking about, we're no showing examples of rarer than rare silly expensive cars that could be pink and still sell easily?
It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.
Don’t get angry about strangers on the internet, WGAF anyway?It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.
rich12 said:
Right so rather than just admit you knew exactly the sort of cars I'm talking about, we're no showing examples of rarer than rare silly expensive cars that could be pink and still sell easily?
It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.
Don't listen to him, it was that or a silver CGT! He does love a porker that boy It's clear we're talking in the context of 488's, 720S', huracan etc.
av185 said:
rich12 said:
ferdi p said:
Plenty of 488's in a similar position, 2016 & 2018 cars priced the same, same colour & similar miles too!
I personally think silver is a tough sell on a 720s, reduces the amount of buyers significantly imo.
Same could be said for any top end car. I personally think silver is a tough sell on a 720s, reduces the amount of buyers significantly imo.
Resale silver has never applied to supercars.
Depends on the supercar.
And depends on the silver.
Gaudy colours come and go. But classic colours always sell well and look cool.
Traditional German classic silver racing colour speaks volumes.
This sold in 3 days btw
Edited by av185 on Wednesday 15th April 22:06
Colours are all down to taste.
Silver Ferrari’s have generally looked pretty good to me (355, 360, 430, 612) but I suspect that they may gain a bit of gravitas in my eyes just because there aren’t many around. Of course, that is because few people bought them from new...
XJ220 looks great in silver but it looks great in any colour and it’s from a million years ago when scientists had only discovered two or three colours.
Silver Ferrari’s have generally looked pretty good to me (355, 360, 430, 612) but I suspect that they may gain a bit of gravitas in my eyes just because there aren’t many around. Of course, that is because few people bought them from new...
XJ220 looks great in silver but it looks great in any colour and it’s from a million years ago when scientists had only discovered two or three colours.
av185 said:
The difference between Porsche GT limited run and Mclaren is not just oversupply of overpriced Mclarens and in contrast limited Porsches GTs available of the right spec but crucially the Porsches are deliberately underpriced when new for brand filtering purposes...as you rightly say Porsche are masters at marketing.
This has contributed to the heady premiums we have witnessed since the 991.1 GT3 of 2013 (332 UK cars) continuing with the GT4, Spyder and 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS.
Quite remarkable that even 6 year old 25K mile GT3s are still retailing just under list ££ which further confirms the obvious underpricing when new and their overall ability at the price relative to what little competition from other manufacturers.
Ferraris and certain Lamborghinis (Performante) are a different ball game and whilst the vanilla 488 and to a degree 458 will suffer further, Specialies and Pistas will show far better resilience again largely down to limited numbers and overall desirability.
Crucially, unlike many Porsches GTs, many of the above cars are grossly overpriced new, which combined with oversupply is truly a killer depreciation wise particularly now when things get tough.
I've recently bought a 600LT (my timing is atrocious), I came from a 991.1 GT3 and considered a move to a 991.2 but when I compared the price of 600 to the porsche I couldn't bring myself to go for Porsche as they seemed over priced. I was also under the impression that they made approx 2k RHD 991.2 GT3s so the're not that limited either. I have a knack for losing money so it will no doubt prove to be a mistake but still the 600LT is a far better car for the money (imo at least). How they hold up, time will tell but the 600lt at sub 100k would be an absolute bargain imo and if (when) they drop to that there will be some smiley people around (not me obviously This has contributed to the heady premiums we have witnessed since the 991.1 GT3 of 2013 (332 UK cars) continuing with the GT4, Spyder and 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS.
Quite remarkable that even 6 year old 25K mile GT3s are still retailing just under list ££ which further confirms the obvious underpricing when new and their overall ability at the price relative to what little competition from other manufacturers.
Ferraris and certain Lamborghinis (Performante) are a different ball game and whilst the vanilla 488 and to a degree 458 will suffer further, Specialies and Pistas will show far better resilience again largely down to limited numbers and overall desirability.
Crucially, unlike many Porsches GTs, many of the above cars are grossly overpriced new, which combined with oversupply is truly a killer depreciation wise particularly now when things get tough.
scotty1 said:
av185 said:
The difference between Porsche GT limited run and Mclaren is not just oversupply of overpriced Mclarens and in contrast limited Porsches GTs available of the right spec but crucially the Porsches are deliberately underpriced when new for brand filtering purposes...as you rightly say Porsche are masters at marketing.
This has contributed to the heady premiums we have witnessed since the 991.1 GT3 of 2013 (332 UK cars) continuing with the GT4, Spyder and 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS.
Quite remarkable that even 6 year old 25K mile GT3s are still retailing just under list ££ which further confirms the obvious underpricing when new and their overall ability at the price relative to what little competition from other manufacturers.
Ferraris and certain Lamborghinis (Performante) are a different ball game and whilst the vanilla 488 and to a degree 458 will suffer further, Specialies and Pistas will show far better resilience again largely down to limited numbers and overall desirability.
Crucially, unlike many Porsches GTs, many of the above cars are grossly overpriced new, which combined with oversupply is truly a killer depreciation wise particularly now when things get tough.
I've recently bought a 600LT (my timing is atrocious), I came from a 991.1 GT3 and considered a move to a 991.2 but when I compared the price of 600 to the porsche I couldn't bring myself to go for Porsche as they seemed over priced. I was also under the impression that they made approx 2k RHD 991.2 GT3s so the're not that limited either. I have a knack for losing money so it will no doubt prove to be a mistake but still the 600LT is a far better car for the money (imo at least). How they hold up, time will tell but the 600lt at sub 100k would be an absolute bargain imo and if (when) they drop to that there will be some smiley people around (not me obviously This has contributed to the heady premiums we have witnessed since the 991.1 GT3 of 2013 (332 UK cars) continuing with the GT4, Spyder and 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS.
Quite remarkable that even 6 year old 25K mile GT3s are still retailing just under list ££ which further confirms the obvious underpricing when new and their overall ability at the price relative to what little competition from other manufacturers.
Ferraris and certain Lamborghinis (Performante) are a different ball game and whilst the vanilla 488 and to a degree 458 will suffer further, Specialies and Pistas will show far better resilience again largely down to limited numbers and overall desirability.
Crucially, unlike many Porsches GTs, many of the above cars are grossly overpriced new, which combined with oversupply is truly a killer depreciation wise particularly now when things get tough.
Gameface said:
Are you happy with how it sounds?
It sounds great - either with roof off or with the rear screen open, as the exhausts aren’t far from your ears. It’s not a high pitched howl but it gets the hairs tingling and adds to the sense of speed and excitement. And then there are the pops and cracks and occasionally the flames I was very sceptical about McL but they offered some great deals late last year and I’ve been bowled over by the car. There are some drawbacks - it has so many nooks and crannies and cleaning it takes forever. And the scissor doors trap stones and road grime at the bottom so I can imagine that being a source of rust. But very little else to complain about really.
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