So anyone warming to the 575 replacement yet
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gt2man-2 said:
I don't blame Pininfarina either.. they don't sign-off a design, they just put forward designs to Ferrari.
I blame the blind man who thought that looked good.
Which begs the question, was this effort one of Pinin's actual proposals or did they take a proposal and say..."I know, lets put a load of scoops, ducts and spoilers on it!"
It's just.......aaarrgghh! Aaaarrrrgghhh!
To be fair...I think the door is a nice shape, but even that's compromised by a rather ungainly duct.
>> Edited by anniesdad on Thursday 9th February 17:18
anniesdad said:
As much as it pains me to say it, I agree, the Z06 design is much better resolved than the 599, especially with the racecar front bumper.
500bhp and c.£110K cheaper.
Steve, for the love of Ozrich's lesser known tentacle, reassure me you speak in jest?
It does have whiff of "get's 'em wet" about it, stylistically, especially from that shot above but really, this is one car that could signify a superb segue into midlife crisisdom, what?
derestrictor said:
As much as it pains me to say it, I agree, the Z06 design is much better resolved than the 599, especially with the racecar front bumper.
500bhp and c.£110K cheaper.
Steve, for the love of Ozrich's lesser known tentacle, reassure me you speak in jest?
It does have whiff of "get's 'em wet" about it, stylistically, especially from that shot above but really, this is one car that could signify a superb segue into midlife crisisdom, what?
Sorry Der, not for me I'm afraid. As suggested previously, I'm sure it's fantastic to drive, which is of course very important, but stylistically it just doesn't do it for me.
There are far more beautiful cars to spunk £170K on and they're built at Gaydon. You know it's true.
edited: But just for you Der, I'll reserve my personal judgment until I see one in the flesh.
>> Edited by anniesdad on Thursday 9th February 17:51
Pininfarina can definitely do a lot better... so I agree its the plonker who oversaw the project who fecked it up.
I think Napolis' Enzo project (see my other thread) is going to prove to Ferrari fans that Pininfarina CAN make a gorgeous car and will kick Luca up the arse and get him to start producing gorgeous cars again.
I think Napolis' Enzo project (see my other thread) is going to prove to Ferrari fans that Pininfarina CAN make a gorgeous car and will kick Luca up the arse and get him to start producing gorgeous cars again.
Seeing cars like this in reality is a different thing altogether, they have huge prescence even if, like the Enzo, their angularity imparts a certain 'gawk' photographically.
This I found to be emphatically the case when I saw the 612 Scaglietti, it was a simply profound experience.
I believe it will be similarly so with the 599.
There is something else here which needs putting into focus: the sheer driving rapture of these cars.
The recent cars are sensational steers and the latest batches can only raise the bar ever higher.
It is a measure of peoples' over satiation with the nectar of such automotive hedonism that ludicrous reactions involving vomit logos are invoked in the prescence of such utter majesty.
Such dismissiveness is an indication of pure ignorance, literally, diff-splitting dumbness, or both. Get a f@cking grip - this is a 600+ horsepowered Fezza.
Re the Astons, Steve; yes, the Vanquish is a contender except for one critical thing - it would be monumentally pistol whipped by any measure of driven comparison and for this kind of outlay, no matter how staggeringly classy the uber haunched Aston may be, it is left for dead by this new force.
Because that is what this is, a new order of power, a thing of sublime ability at a grunt level which is now becoming ever so slightly inconceivable.
It is bloody superb.
This I found to be emphatically the case when I saw the 612 Scaglietti, it was a simply profound experience.
I believe it will be similarly so with the 599.
There is something else here which needs putting into focus: the sheer driving rapture of these cars.
The recent cars are sensational steers and the latest batches can only raise the bar ever higher.
It is a measure of peoples' over satiation with the nectar of such automotive hedonism that ludicrous reactions involving vomit logos are invoked in the prescence of such utter majesty.
Such dismissiveness is an indication of pure ignorance, literally, diff-splitting dumbness, or both. Get a f@cking grip - this is a 600+ horsepowered Fezza.
Re the Astons, Steve; yes, the Vanquish is a contender except for one critical thing - it would be monumentally pistol whipped by any measure of driven comparison and for this kind of outlay, no matter how staggeringly classy the uber haunched Aston may be, it is left for dead by this new force.
Because that is what this is, a new order of power, a thing of sublime ability at a grunt level which is now becoming ever so slightly inconceivable.
It is bloody superb.
derestrictor said:
Such dismissiveness is an indication of pure ignorance, literally, diff-splitting dumbness, or both. Get a f@cking grip - this is a 600+ horsepowered Fezza.
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SorrySir sould i go and stand in the corner Sir
Really Der im sure as a driving experience its wonderful but the Vette looks better, this is a mish mash
derestrictor said:
This I found to be emphatically the case when I saw the 612 Scaglietti,
True that the 612 looks better in the metal than in print, but that's because print does not convey the sense of scale.. If the 612 were 80% of it's actual size, it would look crap, but it's size makes it "work" somehow. I think no matter the size of the 599, the conflicting angles/lines will never be resolved.
derestrictor said:
There is something else here which needs putting into focus: the sheer driving rapture of these cars.
A 100% purely subjective measurement. Call me superficial, but if I were spending £170K on a Ferrari, I'd like it to look nice.. being fast and handling well isn't enough I'm afraid.. it has to stir all senses.
>> Edited by gt2man-2 on Thursday 9th February 22:26
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