MP4-12C photos and review/comparison
Discussion
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Not the merest tinge of sadness that it ended this way?
Definitely, and more than a tinge. I really wanted to love the car.The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.
It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
Lambo FirstBlood said:
Definitely, and more than a tinge. I really wanted to love the car.
The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.
It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
I guess the value prediction won't matter anymore, it's a shame as it would have been a local car to look out for. Still there's other super cars waiting in the wings The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.
It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
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ufoufo said:
well its nice to see that despite the problems you have had, that someone was willing to pay full price for it - cant have been that bad then! Also shows that there is demand for this car out there.
I imagine there will be people who like the idea of the car and are willing to purchase one at or around list price, but it's a faith purchase on the assumption that McLaren will be able to resolve the current issues. Since I see no reason why this won't be the case, a first generation 12C could turn out to be a good buy if you want a great sports car a rather than necessarily an appreciating asset.BelfastBoy said:
a first generation 12C could turn out to be a good buy if you want a great sports car a rather than necessarily an appreciating asset.
I don't see any 12C being an appreciating asset - the best you can hope for is that with time the depreciation is gradual and slow. This will be a volume car with additional variants (GT, spyder). What will help the value of the early coupes is if the convertible is much more expensive (as is the 458 spyder an extra £25k over the coupe).Lambo FirstBlood said:
Definitely, and more than a tinge. I really wanted to love the car.
The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.
It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
Had you not had the few issues you had; would the McLaren have been a keeper?The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.
It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
JADF said:
Had you not had the few issues you had; would the McLaren have been a keeper?
No, it's a very quick car, and problems aside having a really early one gave it some street theatre as most people I bumped in to hadn't seen one, but It wasn't special enough to keep long term. I would have probably kept it for 9-12 months.Lambo FirstBlood said:
No, it's a very quick car, and problems aside having a really early one gave it some street theatre as most people I bumped in to hadn't seen one, but It wasn't special enough to keep long term. I would have probably kept it for 9-12 months.
reading your early posts when you first took delivery, it was obvious that you were not really "in love with it" and much preferred your Lambo. I think this is a car for 911 Turbo customers who still want the everyday usability but with a bit more drama. The Lambo is 100% drama and 0% everyday use-ability. So the 12C does have its niche.Streetrod said:
Have you ever driven a 458 in anger? Transparent you say!!! With all the electronic aids turned on it feels like you are driving a PlayStation (a very good one it has to be said) but you can feel the electronics constantly correcting your inputs and keeping you on track. With them turned off it turned into an animal which tried to kill me on a couple of occasions. In fact my lap times around Silverstone with them off were nearly six seconds slower.
The 458 is as much a digital car as the McLaren is. I have not driven an Aventador so cannot give a first hand comment but reports coming back do seem to indicate that some of the Va Va Voom has been lost to the computers
I'm with Streetrod on this AGAIN. 458/Modern Ferraris are about as transparent as a Pentium processor.The 458 is as much a digital car as the McLaren is. I have not driven an Aventador so cannot give a first hand comment but reports coming back do seem to indicate that some of the Va Va Voom has been lost to the computers
Edited by Streetrod on Friday 21st October 21:14
ufoufo said:
reading your early posts when you first took delivery, it was obvious that you were not really "in love with it" and much preferred your Lambo. I think this is a car for 911 Turbo customers who still want the everyday usability but with a bit more drama. The Lambo is 100% drama and 0% everyday use-ability. So the 12C does have its niche.
You're right, I wasn't and that was nothing to do with the problems and I do love my Lambo. As you say, the Lambo is 100% drama and loads of fun but it would be hard work as a daily drive (i did try for about 5 months). It's a toy. Problems aside, I stand by what I said about the 12C: If you were a single guy, you could have it as your only car. I agree totally that its perfect for a 911 turbo customer but I do think it's more special and cooler than that though, but I do see where you're coming from.Lambo FirstBlood said:
ufoufo said:
reading your early posts when you first took delivery, it was obvious that you were not really "in love with it" and much preferred your Lambo. I think this is a car for 911 Turbo customers who still want the everyday usability but with a bit more drama. The Lambo is 100% drama and 0% everyday use-ability. So the 12C does have its niche.
You're right, I wasn't and that was nothing to do with the problems and I do love my Lambo. As you say, the Lambo is 100% drama and loads of fun but it would be hard work as a daily drive (i did try for about 5 months). It's a toy. Problems aside, I stand by what I said about the 12C: If you were a single guy, you could have it as your only car. I agree totally that its perfect for a 911 turbo customer but I do think it's more special and cooler than that though, but I do see where you're coming from.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff