MP4-12C photos and review/comparison

MP4-12C photos and review/comparison

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Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Sold my car this morning.

I'm relieved.

smile

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
Sold my car this morning.

I'm relieved.

smile
Not the merest tinge of sadness that it ended this way?

Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
Not the merest tinge of sadness that it ended this way?
Definitely, and more than a tinge. I really wanted to love the car.
The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.

It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.




RevHappy

1,840 posts

164 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
Definitely, and more than a tinge. I really wanted to love the car.
The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.

It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
I guess the value prediction won't matter anymore, it's a shame as it would have been a local car to look out for. Still there's other super cars waiting in the wings biggrin

ufoufo

357 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
Sold my car this morning.

I'm relieved.

smile
well its nice to see that despite the problems you have had, that someone was willing to pay full price for it - cant have been that bad then! Also shows that there is demand for this car out there.

BelfastBoy

779 posts

162 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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ufoufo said:
well its nice to see that despite the problems you have had, that someone was willing to pay full price for it - cant have been that bad then! Also shows that there is demand for this car out there.
I imagine there will be people who like the idea of the car and are willing to purchase one at or around list price, but it's a faith purchase on the assumption that McLaren will be able to resolve the current issues. Since I see no reason why this won't be the case, a first generation 12C could turn out to be a good buy if you want a great sports car a rather than necessarily an appreciating asset.

ufoufo

357 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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BelfastBoy said:
a first generation 12C could turn out to be a good buy if you want a great sports car a rather than necessarily an appreciating asset.
I don't see any 12C being an appreciating asset - the best you can hope for is that with time the depreciation is gradual and slow. This will be a volume car with additional variants (GT, spyder). What will help the value of the early coupes is if the convertible is much more expensive (as is the 458 spyder an extra £25k over the coupe).

JADF

655 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
Definitely, and more than a tinge. I really wanted to love the car.
The relief comes from the fact that I could see no solution in sight to the problems and I feared I may have a car that in the future would be tainted as one of the early ones to avoid.

It will be interesting now to see what happens next for them.
Had you not had the few issues you had; would the McLaren have been a keeper?

Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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JADF said:
Had you not had the few issues you had; would the McLaren have been a keeper?
No, it's a very quick car, and problems aside having a really early one gave it some street theatre as most people I bumped in to hadn't seen one, but It wasn't special enough to keep long term. I would have probably kept it for 9-12 months.

ufoufo

357 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
No, it's a very quick car, and problems aside having a really early one gave it some street theatre as most people I bumped in to hadn't seen one, but It wasn't special enough to keep long term. I would have probably kept it for 9-12 months.
reading your early posts when you first took delivery, it was obvious that you were not really "in love with it" and much preferred your Lambo. I think this is a car for 911 Turbo customers who still want the everyday usability but with a bit more drama. The Lambo is 100% drama and 0% everyday use-ability. So the 12C does have its niche.

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

241 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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Streetrod said:
Have you ever driven a 458 in anger? Transparent you say!!! With all the electronic aids turned on it feels like you are driving a PlayStation (a very good one it has to be said) but you can feel the electronics constantly correcting your inputs and keeping you on track. With them turned off it turned into an animal which tried to kill me on a couple of occasions. In fact my lap times around Silverstone with them off were nearly six seconds slower.

The 458 is as much a digital car as the McLaren is. I have not driven an Aventador so cannot give a first hand comment but reports coming back do seem to indicate that some of the Va Va Voom has been lost to the computers


Edited by Streetrod on Friday 21st October 21:14
I'm with Streetrod on this AGAIN. 458/Modern Ferraris are about as transparent as a Pentium processor.


Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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ufoufo said:
reading your early posts when you first took delivery, it was obvious that you were not really "in love with it" and much preferred your Lambo. I think this is a car for 911 Turbo customers who still want the everyday usability but with a bit more drama. The Lambo is 100% drama and 0% everyday use-ability. So the 12C does have its niche.
You're right, I wasn't and that was nothing to do with the problems and I do love my Lambo. As you say, the Lambo is 100% drama and loads of fun but it would be hard work as a daily drive (i did try for about 5 months). It's a toy. Problems aside, I stand by what I said about the 12C: If you were a single guy, you could have it as your only car. I agree totally that its perfect for a 911 turbo customer but I do think it's more special and cooler than that though, but I do see where you're coming from.

15HN

420 posts

229 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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From TH's twitter feed on 2/11/11:-

"Our MP4-12C has been sold! they're not an over list car in my opinion...."

f1ten

2,162 posts

155 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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HI Lambo
out of interest was it a private punter that bought your car or a trader to try and flog it on?

kbf1981

2,261 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
ufoufo said:
reading your early posts when you first took delivery, it was obvious that you were not really "in love with it" and much preferred your Lambo. I think this is a car for 911 Turbo customers who still want the everyday usability but with a bit more drama. The Lambo is 100% drama and 0% everyday use-ability. So the 12C does have its niche.
You're right, I wasn't and that was nothing to do with the problems and I do love my Lambo. As you say, the Lambo is 100% drama and loads of fun but it would be hard work as a daily drive (i did try for about 5 months). It's a toy. Problems aside, I stand by what I said about the 12C: If you were a single guy, you could have it as your only car. I agree totally that its perfect for a 911 turbo customer but I do think it's more special and cooler than that though, but I do see where you're coming from.
Do you think the same could be said for the 458 - everyone I've talked to seems to say that's everyday useable too, with a bit more drama than the Mac?

Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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f1ten said:
HI Lambo
out of interest was it a private punter that bought your car or a trader to try and flog it on?
The trader brokered a deal between me and the punter. I believe the car was bought by a footballer

Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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kbf1981 said:
Do you think the same could be said for the 458 - everyone I've talked to seems to say that's everyday useable too, with a bit more drama than the Mac?
I would say so, yes. I think the same could be said of most modern super cars.

70proof

6,061 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
The trader brokered a deal between me and the punter. I believe the car was bought by a footballer
?@ at premium if you don;t mind the question

Lambo FirstBlood

973 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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70proof said:
?@ at premium if you don;t mind the question
A very small one

70proof

6,061 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
A very small one
good for you...