Verdi Finally Bites The Dust!
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Well how about you supplying evidence that these people were all owed money. Do you have all the full deatils or is your evidence based on max from pragues post ? As we we all know if it is on the net it must be true ! LOL Like you i am a third party to this matter and i cant confirm or deny beyond doubt that all these debts existed or were paid. I am just looking at this matter from both sides unlike some people on here. I dont have to be a sheep and follow everyone else and nor should you.
It just seems so strange that all the so called people with claims have all gone very quiet. Does that not make you wonder why ?
It just seems so strange that all the so called people with claims have all gone very quiet. Does that not make you wonder why ?
will_ said:
I don't want Verdi to provide the evidence, I want you to - so as to support your repeated statements that people have been paid back "and more". You've said it, you back it up, because it flies in the face of the chap who recently posted who is owed £57k. What do you say to that?
You clearly cannot substantiate what you are saying, and are just being fed li(n)es by Verdi, which you're regurgitating on here, much to the offence (no doubt) of people who have been ripped off. Shameful.
You clearly cannot substantiate what you are saying, and are just being fed li(n)es by Verdi, which you're regurgitating on here, much to the offence (no doubt) of people who have been ripped off. Shameful.
testosterone said:
Well how about you supplying evidence that these people were all owed money. Do you have all the full deatils or is your evidence based on max from pragues post ? As we we all know if it is on the net it must be true ! LOL Like you i am a third party to this matter and i cant confirm or deny beyond doubt that all these debts existed or were paid. I am just looking at this matter from both sides unlike some people on here. I dont have to be a sheep and follow everyone else and nor should you.
It just seems so strange that all the so called people with claims have all gone very quiet. Does that not make you wonder why ?
Go back to sleep you broken record.It just seems so strange that all the so called people with claims have all gone very quiet. Does that not make you wonder why ?
Where is the evidence people have been paid? No, you dont have it.
steven f said:
wow i cant help noticing that the cs coms/mods are keeping well clear of this thread nice to see pistonheads letting this run as i was banned from CS for discussing this as they wanted to protect there main sponser and let there members get ripped off has any of them resigned yet ????????
Not much changes, unfortunately Steve... 
Well done Garlick & the PH management for allowing freedom of speech.
AndrewW-G said:
testosterone said:
Well how about you supplying evidence that these people were all owed money.
The CCJ's are a matter of public record, as is their current status . . . unpaidYou missed that, how daft you feel now eh!!
testosterone said:
Well how about you supplying evidence that these people were all owed money. Do you have all the full deatils or is your evidence based on max from pragues post ? As we we all know if it is on the net it must be true ! LOL Like you i am a third party to this matter and i cant confirm or deny beyond doubt that all these debts existed or were paid. I am just looking at this matter from both sides unlike some people on here. I dont have to be a sheep and follow everyone else and nor should you.
It just seems so strange that all the so called people with claims have all gone very quiet. Does that not make you wonder why ?
Isn't a public and successful winding up petition evidence enough for you? Or would you rather just believe Karl?It just seems so strange that all the so called people with claims have all gone very quiet. Does that not make you wonder why ?
will_ said:
I don't want Verdi to provide the evidence, I want you to - so as to support your repeated statements that people have been paid back "and more". You've said it, you back it up, because it flies in the face of the chap who recently posted who is owed £57k. What do you say to that?
You clearly cannot substantiate what you are saying, and are just being fed li(n)es by Verdi, which you're regurgitating on here, much to the offence (no doubt) of people who have been ripped off. Shameful.
You clearly cannot substantiate what you are saying, and are just being fed li(n)es by Verdi, which you're regurgitating on here, much to the offence (no doubt) of people who have been ripped off. Shameful.
I've got one theory as to why (a) the original people have gone quiet and (2) new people have posted on the thread saying they are recently owed money. Can you work out why that might be given the whole rob peter to pay paul fiasco that caused this problem in the first place?
You cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid. Good, I'm glad you've admitted that your assertions are completely unfounded and baseless.
Just like you cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid or not or even if they existed your assertions are unfounded and baseless. You have read comments on this thread and formed an opinion.
Like me you are merely a third party in this matter.
The petition was presented by one person not several. If this person was not paid then why haven't we heard from him ? He was very vocal at the start. What happened to the personal bankruptcies ?
Did they ever exist ?
As for the two new postings you do not have hard evidence you are merely taking their word for it. People like you who believe everything they read without having seen the hard facts are frankly so naive you are not safe to cross the road !
Like me you are merely a third party in this matter.
The petition was presented by one person not several. If this person was not paid then why haven't we heard from him ? He was very vocal at the start. What happened to the personal bankruptcies ?
Did they ever exist ?
As for the two new postings you do not have hard evidence you are merely taking their word for it. People like you who believe everything they read without having seen the hard facts are frankly so naive you are not safe to cross the road !
will_ said:
Isn't a public and successful winding up petition evidence enough for you? Or would you rather just believe Karl?
I've got one theory as to why (a) the original people have gone quiet and (2) new people have posted on the thread saying they are recently owed money. Can you work out why that might be given the whole rob peter to pay paul fiasco that caused this problem in the first place?
You cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid. Good, I'm glad you've admitted that your assertions are completely unfounded and baseless.
I've got one theory as to why (a) the original people have gone quiet and (2) new people have posted on the thread saying they are recently owed money. Can you work out why that might be given the whole rob peter to pay paul fiasco that caused this problem in the first place?
You cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid. Good, I'm glad you've admitted that your assertions are completely unfounded and baseless.
testosterone said:
Sorry!You are the one who comes on here and says people have been paid. Karl told you this and consequently you have access to the alleged information.
You have been repeatedly asked to this as YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE ASSERTIONS AGAINST UNCHALLENGEABLE FACT! NAMELY COURT ORDERS.
Lets put it really simply for you.
Post the details and exact information, or shut up and go away!
If you want the publicly available plain factual position according to companies house it's this...
VERDI FERRARI (AFTER SALES) LTD, In liquidation, 4 outstanding CCJs totaling £55,792, all outstanding, none settled.
VERDI FERRARI (SALES) LTD, In liquidation, 4 outstanding CCJs totaling £9,662, all outstanding, none settled.
VERDI PERFORMANCE WORKSHOP LIMITED, dissolved
VERDI PERFORMANCE CARS LIMITED , dissolved
ALBANY IMEX LIMITED , dissolved
BIRDI PROPERTY LIMITED , dissolved
There can be no heresay or opinions here, these are the facts.
You will no doubt tell us the courts and companies house have it all wrong, but personaly my opinion is I wouldn't be trusting my money to anyone with that sort of track record.
VERDI FERRARI (AFTER SALES) LTD, In liquidation, 4 outstanding CCJs totaling £55,792, all outstanding, none settled.
VERDI FERRARI (SALES) LTD, In liquidation, 4 outstanding CCJs totaling £9,662, all outstanding, none settled.
VERDI PERFORMANCE WORKSHOP LIMITED, dissolved
VERDI PERFORMANCE CARS LIMITED , dissolved
ALBANY IMEX LIMITED , dissolved
BIRDI PROPERTY LIMITED , dissolved
There can be no heresay or opinions here, these are the facts.
You will no doubt tell us the courts and companies house have it all wrong, but personaly my opinion is I wouldn't be trusting my money to anyone with that sort of track record.
Put simply - when or if a CCJ is settled a Certificate of Satisfaction is issued & the credit reference agency records are updated to show that the CCJ has been paid.
At least that is how it worked when I was employed by a major financial institution for over 15 years.
As I understand it none of the CCJ 's have been paid hence they remain outstanding. From an outsiders point of view the guy is a crook.
He sold other people's car's & pocketed the sale proceeds. That is theft is it not?
I think that I will sell my next door neighbours trailer, pocket the cash & see what he says.
He might, probably, accuse me of theft. He will be correct as is the case with Verdi.
Simple as that.
At least that is how it worked when I was employed by a major financial institution for over 15 years.
As I understand it none of the CCJ 's have been paid hence they remain outstanding. From an outsiders point of view the guy is a crook.
He sold other people's car's & pocketed the sale proceeds. That is theft is it not?
I think that I will sell my next door neighbours trailer, pocket the cash & see what he says.
He might, probably, accuse me of theft. He will be correct as is the case with Verdi.
Simple as that.
testosterone said:
Just like you cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid or not or even if they existed your assertions are unfounded and baseless. You have read comments on this thread and formed an opinion.
Like me you are merely a third party in this matter.
The petition was presented by one person not several. If this person was not paid then why haven't we heard from him ? He was very vocal at the start. What happened to the personal bankruptcies ?
Did they ever exist ?
As for the two new postings you do not have hard evidence you are merely taking their word for it. People like you who believe everything they read without having seen the hard facts are frankly so naive you are not safe to cross the road !
If a company is wound up, it's because they cannot pay their debts.Like me you are merely a third party in this matter.
The petition was presented by one person not several. If this person was not paid then why haven't we heard from him ? He was very vocal at the start. What happened to the personal bankruptcies ?
Did they ever exist ?
As for the two new postings you do not have hard evidence you are merely taking their word for it. People like you who believe everything they read without having seen the hard facts are frankly so naive you are not safe to cross the road !
will_ said:
Isn't a public and successful winding up petition evidence enough for you? Or would you rather just believe Karl?
I've got one theory as to why (a) the original people have gone quiet and (2) new people have posted on the thread saying they are recently owed money. Can you work out why that might be given the whole rob peter to pay paul fiasco that caused this problem in the first place?
You cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid. Good, I'm glad you've admitted that your assertions are completely unfounded and baseless.
I've got one theory as to why (a) the original people have gone quiet and (2) new people have posted on the thread saying they are recently owed money. Can you work out why that might be given the whole rob peter to pay paul fiasco that caused this problem in the first place?
You cannot confirm or deny that people have been paid. Good, I'm glad you've admitted that your assertions are completely unfounded and baseless.
Even if it is only one person, that makes my view that Verdi have been using their customer's money to pay their own debts and unquestionable fact, unlike your assertions. If that were not true, I can assure that PH would have deleted this thread (like they did to previous threads).
I am more willing to believe a poster who states that they have been ripped off by a person who has been proven to have already ripped off other people, than I am to believe a poster who is clearly acting as a puppet for a someone who clearly has a wish to try to repair his reputation.
You have stated that you would sell a car through Verdis even now. Of the two of us, it is not me who is naiive. The fact that you believe what you are told by someone with a clearly vested interest (and without the greatest history of honesty) makes your views and opinions risible.
As I said, I have a theory as to why some people have gone quiet and others have piped up. I think the answer is fairly obvious.
So in summary - my view is substantiated by verifiable facts, logic and evidence. Your views remain wholly unsubstantiated, baseless, contrary to established facts and unverified by anything other than what Verdi has told you, which is dubious at best for obvious reasons.
Once again I'll ask (as you've dodged the question repeatedly) - what "hard facts" have you seen?
Edited by will_ on Monday 23 April 08:43
fatboy69 said:
I think that I will sell my next door neighbours trailer, pocket the cash & see what he says.
He might, probably, accuse me of theft. He will be correct as is the case with Verdi.
Simple as that.
Fully agree and dont want to get into the 33 pages of verdi ...He might, probably, accuse me of theft. He will be correct as is the case with Verdi.
Simple as that.
However as I understand, rightly or wrongly in law the problem is that your neighbour asked you to sell it for him.
Its the crazy world we now live in ..
fatboy69 said:
It just baffles me that anyone can defend Verdi and/ or theft. He did wrong, he has been caught out if time yet still people think that he is genuine & trustworthy.
Which, clearly, he isn't.
If the poster was right and Verdi was making good his mistakes and paying people back and putting right what he had done wrong, then we should give him time and credit for doing so. What is irritating is making bland unsupported statements and claiming in the absence of someone disproving what he is positivley asserting he is right! Which, clearly, he isn't.
Taking that approach then anyone could say almost anything about everything in established fact!
The absence of hard clear ascertainable information, which plainly must underlay these assertions, tends to establish the opposite.
Makes matters much worse for them in my view.
paulqv said:
fatboy69 said:
It just baffles me that anyone can defend Verdi and/ or theft. He did wrong, he has been caught out if time yet still people think that he is genuine & trustworthy.
Which, clearly, he isn't.
If the poster was right and Verdi was making good his mistakes and paying people back and putting right what he had done wrong, then we should give him time and credit for doing so. What is irritating is making bland unsupported statements and claiming in the absence of someone disproving what he is positivley asserting he is right! Which, clearly, he isn't.
Taking that approach then anyone could say almost anything about everything in established fact!
The absence of hard clear ascertainable information, which plainly must underlay these assertions, tends to establish the opposite.
Makes matters much worse for them in my view.
why if he was so honest does he need to keep the money that is not his? If its not his why does people need to come here and defend him taking it for his own purposes and pay it back later?
I have been in that situation when someone promised me the money and then didn't deliver and now they are on 12% finance.
Why is this different cause of who he is? If he couldn't pay they why keep that from people no matter the embarrassment as it only ruins his rep?
paulqv said:
fatboy69 said:
It just baffles me that anyone can defend Verdi and/ or theft. He did wrong, he has been caught out if time yet still people think that he is genuine & trustworthy.
Which, clearly, he isn't.
If the poster was right and Verdi was making good his mistakes and paying people back and putting right what he had done wrong, then we should give him time and credit for doing so. Which, clearly, he isn't.
Paul .... like a lot of us if I had to sell my 355 it is because I need the money or wanted to upgrade.
If I needed the money then 6 months or a year later is not much use to me as by now the bank has repossesed my house !!
Above a bit extreme agreed, but dont think we should praise him for it.
TISPKJ said:
Fatboy ... agreed
Paul .... like a lot of us if I had to sell my 355 it is because I need the money or wanted to upgrade.
If I needed the money then 6 months or a year later is not much use to me as by now the bank has repossesed my house !!
Above a bit extreme agreed, but dont think we should praise him for it.
Fair point. I was trying to take a balanced approach if some good come out of this. I seriously doubt that there is any genuine intent or action here. However i can't dispute your criticism of my observation Paul .... like a lot of us if I had to sell my 355 it is because I need the money or wanted to upgrade.
If I needed the money then 6 months or a year later is not much use to me as by now the bank has repossesed my house !!
Above a bit extreme agreed, but dont think we should praise him for it.
Paul
vinny69 said:
had a call from an old friend today,a chinese lady who speaks little english.she needed some addwicce (as she put it 
)apparantly she had asked a man called karl to sell her ferrari.surprise suprise but he owes her £8500 and will not return her calls,her letters,or any correspondance whatsoever.decided to google this karl verdi and this is what i find!! wow! (gotta love google) ,,,does anyone have any suugestions as to her next move? as i said she has limited vocabulary so i think this guy has thought she may "just go away" i dont think she has the funds to just hire a solititor but i may be wrong..thx for any feedback you may be able to give
first thing and hate to do this is to sort your post out into readable sections...)apparantly she had asked a man called karl to sell her ferrari.surprise suprise but he owes her £8500 and will not return her calls,her letters,or any correspondance whatsoever.decided to google this karl verdi and this is what i find!! wow! (gotta love google) ,,,does anyone have any suugestions as to her next move? as i said she has limited vocabulary so i think this guy has thought she may "just go away" i dont think she has the funds to just hire a solititor but i may be wrong..thx for any feedback you may be able to giveBut moving beyond that... talk to the main person talk on this thead and get added.
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