Verdi Finally Bites The Dust!
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I have been following these posts since watching Verdi on beat the baliffs. There is no way I would take my 430 anywhere near this guy now. I feel well sorry for those people that have lost money but if my sources are right then it might be the he is finally going to get what is coming to him. Verdi has ripped off some big wig banker from the continent for 60k who has went mental. This guy is loaded and going after Verdi large style, got his lawyers pushing the crown prosecution service for a conviction. The new garage is in his son's name and it looks like all of this is going to land at his door. Apparently the son is up in court in three weeks to explain his business practise. Nice of Karl to hand all the sh#t over to his son to deal with!!! Says it all really.
ghferrari said:
I have been following these posts since watching Verdi on beat the baliffs. There is no way I would take my 430 anywhere near this guy now. I feel well sorry for those people that have lost money but if my sources are right then it might be the he is finally going to get what is coming to him. Verdi has ripped off some big wig banker from the continent for 60k who has went mental. This guy is loaded and going after Verdi large style, got his lawyers pushing the crown prosecution service for a conviction. The new garage is in his son's name and it looks like all of this is going to land at his door. Apparently the son is up in court in three weeks to explain his business practise. Nice of Karl to hand all the sh#t over to his son to deal with!!! Says it all really.
Innit
ghferrari said:
I have been following these posts since watching Verdi on beat the baliffs. There is no way I would take my 430 anywhere near this guy now. I feel well sorry for those people that have lost money but if my sources are right then it might be the he is finally going to get what is coming to him. Verdi has ripped off some big wig banker from the continent for 60k who has went mental. This guy is loaded and going after Verdi large style, got his lawyers pushing the crown prosecution service for a conviction. The new garage is in his son's name and it looks like all of this is going to land at his door. Apparently the son is up in court in three weeks to explain his business practise. Nice of Karl to hand all the sh#t over to his son to deal with!!! Says it all really.
Forget all that... My mum is going down there with her handbag, then it will be game over for the Verdi's !!The guy is a compulsive liar, I think he even gets some perverse pleasure out of seeing people having to ask for their own money. A number of people have used the word despicable, spot on! The guy uses other people's hard earned money, has no honour to lie to you with any old excuse. He just strung me along for another 4 months saying he was going to honour his debt to me an others but I am fed up having to listen to his wimpy excuses and told him to stick my cash where the sun does not shine.
This is the pattern after he sells your car and does not pay you.
1) If you post anything on the internet he sends his attack dog lawyer to say you are posting something liable and he will sue your ass. Most people do not understand that you can post what you like as long as it is the truth. Used to work in the old days before several threads came up.
2) try intimidation using his favourite phrase" I am going to send someone to sort you out". He never sends anyone. In one case where the guy was winning he was using 3rd parties to intimidate.
3) promise to pay but use his fathers dementia as an excuse + several other well tested lies.
I see another 2 people have posted recently and suddenly the next day the posts are removed. I would assume because of one of these 3 reasons.
Another thing 3 of the victims left are about including myself in Prague, one in Switzerland and another in California. We were easy prey, not that he limited it to people abroad. But bit of a pattern there eh?
Recently I posted a thread, we had a deal that if I tried to put a positive spin on that he was trying to pay people he would do something. In his words," you do something for me and I do something for you". It was degrading but I just want to be paid and get on with my life, guess what i started phoning him several times a week only to be ignored. I asked for that thread to be deleted as I do not want anyone to have a shred of doubt that this guy is a crook and a liar. What sort of guy intimdates his creditors? I certainly would not call that a businessman.
There is a guy on this thread called Will, even though he is not involved his posts and suspicions have been pretty much spot on.
This is the pattern after he sells your car and does not pay you.
1) If you post anything on the internet he sends his attack dog lawyer to say you are posting something liable and he will sue your ass. Most people do not understand that you can post what you like as long as it is the truth. Used to work in the old days before several threads came up.
2) try intimidation using his favourite phrase" I am going to send someone to sort you out". He never sends anyone. In one case where the guy was winning he was using 3rd parties to intimidate.
3) promise to pay but use his fathers dementia as an excuse + several other well tested lies.
I see another 2 people have posted recently and suddenly the next day the posts are removed. I would assume because of one of these 3 reasons.
Another thing 3 of the victims left are about including myself in Prague, one in Switzerland and another in California. We were easy prey, not that he limited it to people abroad. But bit of a pattern there eh?
Recently I posted a thread, we had a deal that if I tried to put a positive spin on that he was trying to pay people he would do something. In his words," you do something for me and I do something for you". It was degrading but I just want to be paid and get on with my life, guess what i started phoning him several times a week only to be ignored. I asked for that thread to be deleted as I do not want anyone to have a shred of doubt that this guy is a crook and a liar. What sort of guy intimdates his creditors? I certainly would not call that a businessman.
There is a guy on this thread called Will, even though he is not involved his posts and suspicions have been pretty much spot on.
mambolambo said:
There is a guy on this thread called Will, even though he is not involved his posts and suspicions have been pretty much spot on.
Genuinely sorry to hear that you've not been paid, particularly as you were confident that it was a kosher proposal supported by a third party. will_ said:
Genuinely sorry to hear that you've not been paid, particularly as you were confident that it was a kosher proposal supported by a third party.
The sad thing is he goes around telling people Max from Prague has been paid. Last week before it kicked off he said there wer only 2 people left on his list which I knew to be not true because there are at least 2 cases going to court in the next month. Plus all these other people appearing on PH...chinese lady and the guy with the ferrari 360 spider for 57K.BTW I found out of another guy today who is owed 25K...where does it stop. WTF is he doing.
I do not know how they guy can look people in the eye and say this BS. The very crafty thing he does is by "keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer." By keeping you hanging on with the promise to pay you always think there is hope. My advice to anyone who is owed money is start legal procedings asap and post your story on here.
He hates PH unless it says something nice about him, it really winds him up because before he could manipulate the managment or posters by threatening then with a law suit. He reads the forums, he knows this is where public opinion about him is formed.
mambolambo
I understand you were the 1st one to place Verdi Ferrari After Sales Ltd into liquidation. You are a registered creditor. You by law MUST go through the liquidators. You envoked your solicitors to start legal action and you have done so. You must now stay with your solicitors and seek to the full extent of the law your claim. What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
In the meantime if anyone has any problems with Verdi, please by all means call them in the first instance on +442087560066 and explain your cause.
PLEASE stop trying malicious tactics with no cause but your own actions. You should have checked, confirmed, had in writing all matters before you handed your keys over on a SOR agreement.
Your failure to check and confirm, as well as your attempt to remedy( blackmail) are all the WRONG approach. If anyone has issues go to the source and try and sort it out. If not, go to the lawyers, spend the money and wait.
Presenting yourself as a sacrifice in my world is just stupid, and then employing criminal tactics to get them to pay, (ahead of other creditors mind you) 1st is illegal and 2nd is down right stupid.
To solve this problem, talk to your solicitor, who will talk to the liquidator. Jumping on forums with a biased view does not solve things.
Talk to Karl/liquidators and take it from there, otherwise you could find yourself in alot on unnecessary trouble.
I understand you were the 1st one to place Verdi Ferrari After Sales Ltd into liquidation. You are a registered creditor. You by law MUST go through the liquidators. You envoked your solicitors to start legal action and you have done so. You must now stay with your solicitors and seek to the full extent of the law your claim. What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
In the meantime if anyone has any problems with Verdi, please by all means call them in the first instance on +442087560066 and explain your cause.
PLEASE stop trying malicious tactics with no cause but your own actions. You should have checked, confirmed, had in writing all matters before you handed your keys over on a SOR agreement.
Your failure to check and confirm, as well as your attempt to remedy( blackmail) are all the WRONG approach. If anyone has issues go to the source and try and sort it out. If not, go to the lawyers, spend the money and wait.
Presenting yourself as a sacrifice in my world is just stupid, and then employing criminal tactics to get them to pay, (ahead of other creditors mind you) 1st is illegal and 2nd is down right stupid.
To solve this problem, talk to your solicitor, who will talk to the liquidator. Jumping on forums with a biased view does not solve things.
Talk to Karl/liquidators and take it from there, otherwise you could find yourself in alot on unnecessary trouble.
Bugatti T37 said:
What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
So verdi are happy to use the law when it suits them? Perhaps they (you) should pay the bills in the first place, and errrr avoid any supposed 'threats' in the first place? A novel idea I know, but it might just catch on....Bugatti T37 said:
mambolambo
I understand you were the 1st one to place Verdi Ferrari After Sales Ltd into liquidation. You are a registered creditor. You by law MUST go through the liquidators. You envoked your solicitors to start legal action and you have done so. You must now stay with your solicitors and seek to the full extent of the law your claim. What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
In the meantime if anyone has any problems with Verdi, please by all means call them in the first instance on +442087560066 and explain your cause.
PLEASE stop trying malicious tactics with no cause but your own actions. You should have checked, confirmed, had in writing all matters before you handed your keys over on a SOR agreement.
Your failure to check and confirm, as well as your attempt to remedy( blackmail) are all the WRONG approach. If anyone has issues go to the source and try and sort it out. If not, go to the lawyers, spend the money and wait.
Presenting yourself as a sacrifice in my world is just stupid, and then employing criminal tactics to get them to pay, (ahead of other creditors mind you) 1st is illegal and 2nd is down right stupid.
To solve this problem, talk to your solicitor, who will talk to the liquidator. Jumping on forums with a biased view does not solve things.
Talk to Karl/liquidators and take it from there, otherwise you could find yourself in alot on unnecessary trouble.
How about you just don't steal peoples money and not expect them to try everything to get it back?I understand you were the 1st one to place Verdi Ferrari After Sales Ltd into liquidation. You are a registered creditor. You by law MUST go through the liquidators. You envoked your solicitors to start legal action and you have done so. You must now stay with your solicitors and seek to the full extent of the law your claim. What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
In the meantime if anyone has any problems with Verdi, please by all means call them in the first instance on +442087560066 and explain your cause.
PLEASE stop trying malicious tactics with no cause but your own actions. You should have checked, confirmed, had in writing all matters before you handed your keys over on a SOR agreement.
Your failure to check and confirm, as well as your attempt to remedy( blackmail) are all the WRONG approach. If anyone has issues go to the source and try and sort it out. If not, go to the lawyers, spend the money and wait.
Presenting yourself as a sacrifice in my world is just stupid, and then employing criminal tactics to get them to pay, (ahead of other creditors mind you) 1st is illegal and 2nd is down right stupid.
To solve this problem, talk to your solicitor, who will talk to the liquidator. Jumping on forums with a biased view does not solve things.
Talk to Karl/liquidators and take it from there, otherwise you could find yourself in alot on unnecessary trouble.
Bugatti T37 said:
mambolambo
I understand you were the 1st one to place Verdi Ferrari After Sales Ltd into liquidation. You are a registered creditor. You by law MUST go through the liquidators. You envoked your solicitors to start legal action and you have done so. You must now stay with your solicitors and seek to the full extent of the law your claim. What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
In the meantime if anyone has any problems with Verdi, please by all means call them in the first instance on +442087560066 and explain your cause.
PLEASE stop trying malicious tactics with no cause but your own actions. You should have checked, confirmed, had in writing all matters before you handed your keys over on a SOR agreement.
Your failure to check and confirm, as well as your attempt to remedy( blackmail) are all the WRONG approach. If anyone has issues go to the source and try and sort it out. If not, go to the lawyers, spend the money and wait.
Presenting yourself as a sacrifice in my world is just stupid, and then employing criminal tactics to get them to pay, (ahead of other creditors mind you) 1st is illegal and 2nd is down right stupid.
To solve this problem, talk to your solicitor, who will talk to the liquidator. Jumping on forums with a biased view does not solve things.
Talk to Karl/liquidators and take it from there, otherwise you could find yourself in alot on unnecessary trouble.
Sorry if Im out of sorts, but he gave you the car to sell and you kept the monies of something you didn't own.I understand you were the 1st one to place Verdi Ferrari After Sales Ltd into liquidation. You are a registered creditor. You by law MUST go through the liquidators. You envoked your solicitors to start legal action and you have done so. You must now stay with your solicitors and seek to the full extent of the law your claim. What you have failed to present in this public forum is your threats to Karl as well as your attempts of extortion and blackmail all which have been reported and documented by the Metropolitan police. You may well be wanted in the UK by the police.
In the meantime if anyone has any problems with Verdi, please by all means call them in the first instance on +442087560066 and explain your cause.
PLEASE stop trying malicious tactics with no cause but your own actions. You should have checked, confirmed, had in writing all matters before you handed your keys over on a SOR agreement.
Your failure to check and confirm, as well as your attempt to remedy( blackmail) are all the WRONG approach. If anyone has issues go to the source and try and sort it out. If not, go to the lawyers, spend the money and wait.
Presenting yourself as a sacrifice in my world is just stupid, and then employing criminal tactics to get them to pay, (ahead of other creditors mind you) 1st is illegal and 2nd is down right stupid.
To solve this problem, talk to your solicitor, who will talk to the liquidator. Jumping on forums with a biased view does not solve things.
Talk to Karl/liquidators and take it from there, otherwise you could find yourself in alot on unnecessary trouble.
if the person is trying to make himself whole by getting the money back who are you to disagree?
Has he been made whole? If not then he can say any truth he wants, against the company as he is only saying what happened to him. What you you is saying is a class of heresy and so is not viable in evidence (unless told otherwise).... has karl done anything to prove otherwise against the angry people? if not then you have not a real basis to go of on one?
speak the truth with no threats and you will be heard without reason but to threaten people you supposed owe money to and then threaten then, where does that place you?
I don't know Karl Verdi but If he did sell other people's cars and kept/stole the money then that is theft, plain and simple.
I have had the misfortune of having money owed to me many times in the past. Sometimes it has been a case of can't afford it after they bought something from me and we always try to accommodate this but I have encountered a few who just want something and don't want to pay for it. I've been round the block and engaged lawyers on a number of occasions and whilst that can work when dealing with someone who has an inclination to pay you back, when dealing with someone who just keeps lying and doesn't want to pay, I'm afraid you are only ever left with two choices, wipe your mouth, learn from it and move on or send someone horrible round to get the money.
It's sad but it's true. I once wasted thousands on legal fees only to win and still not get the money. In the end, i employed the right people to collect the debt and the money was retuned to me. it's not something I got in to lightly and I'm not saying what's right or wrong here as I don't know any more than what I read on this thread but the law didn't help me and it was my money and I felt fine doing what I had to do, to get the money back.
I have had the misfortune of having money owed to me many times in the past. Sometimes it has been a case of can't afford it after they bought something from me and we always try to accommodate this but I have encountered a few who just want something and don't want to pay for it. I've been round the block and engaged lawyers on a number of occasions and whilst that can work when dealing with someone who has an inclination to pay you back, when dealing with someone who just keeps lying and doesn't want to pay, I'm afraid you are only ever left with two choices, wipe your mouth, learn from it and move on or send someone horrible round to get the money.
It's sad but it's true. I once wasted thousands on legal fees only to win and still not get the money. In the end, i employed the right people to collect the debt and the money was retuned to me. it's not something I got in to lightly and I'm not saying what's right or wrong here as I don't know any more than what I read on this thread but the law didn't help me and it was my money and I felt fine doing what I had to do, to get the money back.
Lambo FirstBlood said:
I don't know Karl Verdi but If he did sell other people's cars and kept/stole the money then that is theft, plain and simple.
I have had the misfortune of having money owed to me many times in the past. Sometimes it has been a case of can't afford it after they bought something from me and we always try to accommodate this but I have encountered a few who just want something and don't want to pay for it. I've been round the block and engaged lawyers on a number of occasions and whilst that can work when dealing with someone who has an inclination to pay you back, when dealing with someone who just keeps lying and doesn't want to pay, I'm afraid you are only ever left with two choices, wipe your mouth, learn from it and move on or send someone horrible round to get the money.
It's sad but it's true. I once wasted thousands on legal fees only to win and still not get the money. In the end, i employed the right people to collect the debt and the money was retuned to me. it's not something I got in to lightly and I'm not saying what's right or wrong here as I don't know any more than what I read on this thread but the law didn't help me and it was my money and I felt fine doing what I had to do, to get the money back.
while i don't say its right or wrong that you turned to the dark side to get your money, I have had the misfortune of having money owed to me many times in the past. Sometimes it has been a case of can't afford it after they bought something from me and we always try to accommodate this but I have encountered a few who just want something and don't want to pay for it. I've been round the block and engaged lawyers on a number of occasions and whilst that can work when dealing with someone who has an inclination to pay you back, when dealing with someone who just keeps lying and doesn't want to pay, I'm afraid you are only ever left with two choices, wipe your mouth, learn from it and move on or send someone horrible round to get the money.
It's sad but it's true. I once wasted thousands on legal fees only to win and still not get the money. In the end, i employed the right people to collect the debt and the money was retuned to me. it's not something I got in to lightly and I'm not saying what's right or wrong here as I don't know any more than what I read on this thread but the law didn't help me and it was my money and I felt fine doing what I had to do, to get the money back.
I feel its getting to that stage unless the accused can sort sort out something that dosent involve that lying to the certain along the way and the way its going. some of the people that were ripped off are not beyond that style, as some people dont like the kind of money disappearing and a car that doesn't get noticed. I hope karl doesn't get to that stage as its not necessary.
( I have not association with the people involve or anything else and read between the lines)
groak said:
'Street rules' are ok if you can handle it. But what do you do if your collector's sent back to you minus an eye with a message for you?
I hear you and you do to some extent risk a war if you're dealing with someone else from that world. As far as the missing an eye bit, I was very careful to use people that do this day in day out and know exactly what they get themselves in to. They get paid well, and if something happens to them, they accept that it's an occupational hazard of the job. I'm no gangster but the key is not to use nutters, you don't want chaos, you just want the money back and people I know are very good at doing it with the minimum amount of fuss. Lambo FirstBlood said:
groak said:
'Street rules' are ok if you can handle it. But what do you do if your collector's sent back to you minus an eye with a message for you?
I hear you and you do to some extent risk a war if you're dealing with someone else from that world. As far as the missing an eye bit, I was very careful to use people that do this day in day out and know exactly what they get themselves in to. They get paid well, and if something happens to them, they accept that it's an occupational hazard of the job. I'm no gangster but the key is not to use nutters, you don't want chaos, you just want the money back and people I know are very good at doing it with the minimum amount of fuss. Y'see it's not a lot different from the lawful way. Often doesn't quite work out like it was planned. Anyone can hire a lawyer or a debt collector. And sometimes it works. But sometimes it doesn't.
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