VW Transporter requiring new engine - What would you do?
Discussion
Difficult one.
30% off doesn't seem that good of a deal but if you can't, or don't want to do the work yourself then you're a bit stuck.
Might be an idea to sell it as spares or repairs and put the 5.5k + the price of the van (guessing about £8k) towards a new van. With van prices the way they are they're fetching strong money at the moment especially as yours is not base spec. Some cosmetically good vans have been going through Copart at retail prices recently.
Maybe make it clear the local dealer won't be getting your future business see if that lessens the purse strings another 20% if you really want to keep it.
30% off doesn't seem that good of a deal but if you can't, or don't want to do the work yourself then you're a bit stuck.
Might be an idea to sell it as spares or repairs and put the 5.5k + the price of the van (guessing about £8k) towards a new van. With van prices the way they are they're fetching strong money at the moment especially as yours is not base spec. Some cosmetically good vans have been going through Copart at retail prices recently.
Maybe make it clear the local dealer won't be getting your future business see if that lessens the purse strings another 20% if you really want to keep it.
Devils advocate: Why should the dealer pay more?
That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
OpulentBob said:
Devils advocate: Why should the dealer pay more?
That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
A Citroen you say?That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
OpulentBob said:
Devils advocate: Why should the dealer pay more?
That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
i disagree. The engine has an expectancy far greater than 80k miles. Its not the engine that was the original issue, its the EGR cooler. The engine is what came off worst as a result of a ill designed component. The EGR cooler has been revised a year after my van, with the same engine and running gear, so the vans with the revised component will surpass 80k and however many thousands more miles too.That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
at the end of the day no matter what one's expectations are, i think its fair to say a commercial vehicle should last longer than 80k miles before it needs a £7k engine replacement.
Thanks on the alternative suggestion, but thats not for me.
OpulentBob said:
Devils advocate: Why should the dealer pay more?
That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
It's also a very well documented issue, I'm amazed there are any left still running round with the original EGR when it will fail and take the engine with it. That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
My father in law has a 180 that’s about 10 years old, 80k miles, no egr issues yet, so they don’t all suffer, but it must be a ticking bomb.
A mate has a very late 5.1 with 25k miles, his van uses 1ltr of oil every 1000 miles, VW have managed to dodge their warranty obligations by stalling him until the warranty ran out and now they don’t want to know.
VW should have been pulled up over this, there’s clearly a design fault and they should pay up if you have full dealer history.
A mate has a very late 5.1 with 25k miles, his van uses 1ltr of oil every 1000 miles, VW have managed to dodge their warranty obligations by stalling him until the warranty ran out and now they don’t want to know.
VW should have been pulled up over this, there’s clearly a design fault and they should pay up if you have full dealer history.
I think you are weeing in the wind.
You've got a VW van that is four years out of warranty, that has a known engine issue. I agree it shouldn't happen but you've been offered 30% off towards the repair at a VW garage, so they've not left you high and dry.
I don't understand why you think the dealer should make a contribution? If you didn't buy the van off them and have only had servicing work done there you are just a punter like everyone else. Why are they going to make a dealer contribution to you and effectively work some of it for 'free'?
If you think that you can take VW on and get them to acknowledge the fault and give you a complimentary repair I'll take my hat off to you.
And unfortunately for everyone who states that they will never give VW (or any other manufacturer) another penny of their money, there is always another new customer just around the corner. People are quick to forget who screws who over in life.
You've got a VW van that is four years out of warranty, that has a known engine issue. I agree it shouldn't happen but you've been offered 30% off towards the repair at a VW garage, so they've not left you high and dry.
I don't understand why you think the dealer should make a contribution? If you didn't buy the van off them and have only had servicing work done there you are just a punter like everyone else. Why are they going to make a dealer contribution to you and effectively work some of it for 'free'?
If you think that you can take VW on and get them to acknowledge the fault and give you a complimentary repair I'll take my hat off to you.
And unfortunately for everyone who states that they will never give VW (or any other manufacturer) another penny of their money, there is always another new customer just around the corner. People are quick to forget who screws who over in life.
normalbloke said:
OpulentBob said:
Devils advocate: Why should the dealer pay more?
That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
A Citroen you say?That type of van (now) has a known problem that affects engines around 80k miles. The engine, therefore, has an expected lifespan of 80k miles, and it's failed, not unexpectedly. It SHOULD have a longer life, but it doesn't, so that's the lifespan. It's survived the warranty. To expect more out of it, with the known issue, is wishful thinking.
Next time get a Toyota Proace, it'll last longer, but obvs fails on the driveway score, and they look ridiculous on 20s.
I don' think the Proace is fault free, we have just sent a customers van back to Toyota with issues.
However 30% payout on a genuine engine on a 7 year old van with 80k on the clock doesn't seem too bad, if you want to keep the van then go that route, however I suspect 100 litres of cheap oil might be the better option and run it till it breaks. VW's seem to have more problems than others, they appear to be pretty unreliable, having said that they keep us in business.
I'd snap there hand off for 30%
However 30% payout on a genuine engine on a 7 year old van with 80k on the clock doesn't seem too bad, if you want to keep the van then go that route, however I suspect 100 litres of cheap oil might be the better option and run it till it breaks. VW's seem to have more problems than others, they appear to be pretty unreliable, having said that they keep us in business.
I'd snap there hand off for 30%
That's a bummer for the OP, it's areal PITA when a car develops a fault.
To those saying 'someone has to pay' however, I just don't get how you arrive at that conclusion. How long does a manufacturer need to give a free warranty for after the warranty has ended? If you want an extended warranty you can buy an extended warranty. Why do people think it's ok to ignore that and then shout loudly that they want it fixed for free?
To those saying 'someone has to pay' however, I just don't get how you arrive at that conclusion. How long does a manufacturer need to give a free warranty for after the warranty has ended? If you want an extended warranty you can buy an extended warranty. Why do people think it's ok to ignore that and then shout loudly that they want it fixed for free?
t400ble said:
This, best way out
The trouble is though in the grand scheme of things you are just offloading the problem onto the next pour soul.Cue the thread on here saying I've just bought a VW van from auction/dealer and it's got a major oil usage problem...
Someone somewhere is going to either have to pay for it to be fixed or have their fingers burnt big time.
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
The trouble is though in the grand scheme of things you are just offloading the problem onto the next pour soul.
Cue the thread on here saying I've just bought a VW van from auction/dealer and it's got a major oil usage problem...
Someone somewhere is going to either have to pay for it to be fixed or have their fingers burnt big time.
True but if you buy from an auction at least you know that the vehicle you're buying has at least the most common major fault that vehicle is known for.Cue the thread on here saying I've just bought a VW van from auction/dealer and it's got a major oil usage problem...
Someone somewhere is going to either have to pay for it to be fixed or have their fingers burnt big time.
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