best engine in the world is...

best engine in the world is...

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2 sheds

2,529 posts

286 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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The best all round engine of all time IMHO of course is the Alfa Romeo V6, thats if you're taking into account value for money and charactor and not just the performance on paper.
Tim

annodomini2

6,879 posts

253 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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No 1 said:
...the Rover K-series.


Are you nuts!!!!!

more like one of the worst!

jackadoodledo

1 posts

248 months

Friday 31st October 2003
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what are peoples thoughts on the Nissan SR20DET?

in terms of cost (4 pot turbo), weight (all alloy) and tuning potential (easily get to 300bhp without internals changing) it's gotta be a contender.

Your thoughts appreciated

Si

dragstar

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3,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 1st November 2003
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what cars is that in?

Gompo

4,433 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st November 2003
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The Toyota 4-AGE (i think that's it's name)is based on the Ford BDA engine, yes. I think they have exactly the same bore/stroke, although not sure about it.

I dont know the proper name for it, but i do like the current E46 M3 CSL engine.

Btw, i think it was meant to be a modern engine thread..

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Sunday 2nd November 2003
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annodomini2 said:

No 1 said:
...the Rover K-series.



Are you nuts!!!!!

more like one of the worst!


Hardly one of the worst. They certainly suffer more than their fair share of head gasket issues, but apart from that they are one of the lightest 16v car enignes around, and develop quite decent power. Ultimately power is limited by the rather under square nature limiting the valve area, but for something a Caterfield/Locosts type car it's an excellent choice.

If you want a nasty engine then a Triumph 1500 lump from the late Spitfire/Midget must be at least a contender.

annodomini2

6,879 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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if its so good why has it had a report on BBC's watchdog?

ZR1415

17,999 posts

251 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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For value For money.
I plucked a ford 1800cvh from the breakers 18 months ago ,in the 18 months ive had it ive covered 107,000 miles to date in my taxi ,the engine cost me a hundred quid now how much is that per mile?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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annodomini2 said:
if its so good why has it had a report on BBC's watchdog?


You really take Watchdog seriously? They are the biggest bunch of ignorant arseholes on the planet. They take a topic that they feel will be quite emotive to the viewers and then blow it out of all proportion.

FFS, they even had the Saxo VTS on there complaining that when one wheel was driven over a large bump/kerb etc. that one of the rear wheels often lifted off the ground. Apparently they thought this might be dangerous. Wonder if they have ever seen an average FWD car cornering hard before?

The K series is fine if properly looked after, they just don't take neglect/abuse as well as older iron block engines.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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ZR1415 said:
For value For money.
I plucked a ford 1800cvh from the breakers 18 months ago ,in the 18 months ive had it ive covered 107,000 miles to date in my taxi ,the engine cost me a hundred quid now how much is that per mile?


100/107000 = nine hundredths of a penny per mile.

I suspect an old 1800CVH costs considerably more than that by the time you figure in the awesome oil consumption. The 1800CHV is without doubt one of the worst engines that Ford have produced in the last 30 years.

Alien

131 posts

252 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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jackadoodledo said:
what are peoples thoughts on the Nissan SR20DET?

in terms of cost (4 pot turbo), weight (all alloy) and tuning potential (easily get to 300bhp without internals changing) it's gotta be a contender.

Your thoughts appreciated

Si


A very good engine but not without its flaws. Secret Services (tuning shop) in the US have seen 500hp on the stock bottom end. The head was significantly massaged though. The problem with the SR is to do with the valvetrain which limits high-rpm capacity. However since you can just turn up the boost to get more hp at a lower rpm that isn't so big a deal

Someone asked where it was used, the Pulsar GTi-R has it, as does the 180SX/Silvia from 1992 on. Probably a few others that I don't remember.

dragstar

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3,924 posts

252 months

Monday 3rd November 2003
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cheers alien..t'was me

ChrisW.

6,376 posts

257 months

Friday 14th November 2003
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There was a 2 litre overbore of the BDA (1600) and BDR (1800) ford engines.
I believe later versions of this were good for 250BHP in dry sumped spec.
125BHP per litre ?
I had one in a Caterham that had been tuned by Wilcox and I believe had the engine number 208. When I phone Wilcox to verify it's authenticity, I belive they said it had originally been run in a previous incarnation by Roger Clark.
The Caterham had a limited slip diff. Sometimes it felt as if it was doing 0-60 sideways !
Caterham ended up buying it from me ... so it might all have been a dream ... but for the photos of my eight year old son in the drivers seat !

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 15th November 2003
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If you want a nasty engine then a Triumph 1500 lump from the late Spitfire/Midget must be at least a contender.[/quote]

I've got a Spitfire 1500.

There's nothing wrong with that engine

Mine has 65k on the clock and doesn't drop any oil.

Wish I could say the same about the Rover V8 in my Chim which keeps depositing its oil all over the garage floor

tuffer

8,850 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th November 2003
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Pigeon said:


A Deltic has 3 crankshafts at the corners of a triangle, 36 cylinders and 72 pistons. It's a supercharged two-stroke diesel. The Mk 1 produced 1650bhp, then there were Mk 2 and 3 versions which more or less doubled that. It's used in locomotives and fast naval patrol boats. I'd like to make a trike with one, just for the crack.






Oh I would like to see that!

>> Edited by tuffer on Saturday 15th November 17:12

tuffer

8,850 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th November 2003
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Hijack.

The guy in the pictures above has a pretty cool site with loads of crazy pictures from Nam (that's Vietnam not Fakenham).

ChrisW.

6,376 posts

257 months

Saturday 15th November 2003
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But where will the seats go ?

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 15th November 2003
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What was the old Deltic saying, "If you could get past Potters Bar without throwing a piston through the crankcase you were in for a good journey."

IIRC one through a piston out through the bodyside window

Lee

Pigeon

18,535 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th November 2003
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ChrisW. said:
But where will the seats go ?

It won't have any significant effect on the position of the centre of gravity, so it can be bolted on anywhere convenient...

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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anonymous said:
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It's an awfull lump. It's capacity was derived by boring and stroking the original 803cc engine from the Standard 8. It is harsh, vibrates and has a very weak bottom end. Coupled with very poor breathing it produced just 71bhp in it's highest tune form. Compared to the A series, an engine at least as old, it was a real clunker.