best engine in the world is...

best engine in the world is...

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anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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The engine is about 40 years old though.

I haven't found mine to be harsh, it runs very well.

Remember the Lemans 1300 Spitfires, IIRC were running about 110bhp from their engines.

I have a sports exhaust on mine which may give a few extra bhp, although the airfilters etc are all standard.

Lee

rab c

3,692 posts

255 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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[quote=2 sheds]The best all round engine of all time IMHO of course is the Alfa Romeo V6, thats if you're taking into account value for money and charactor and not just the performance on paper.

A f ing amazing engine, I had 2.5L one in a 155 and it was without doubt the best engine in any car I have driven. Including variuos TVRs and a Honda S2000.

dinkel

27,008 posts

260 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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Best engine? We're talkin' sports right? In sound a Merc 300 SL Gullwing v8, all-round a Honda S2000, in pure evil a Countach LP400 and in design a Cosworth DFY. Never understood why that engine (mass-produced racing engine) was never used in a GT like Lotus, kitcar or Cobra epigone.

Cheers, Albert (everyday in a Civic and her 4 never let me down)

bigtommy79

9 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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I like Cosworth YB engines.
Converted to Natural Aspiration you can get massive power on just carbs or throttle bodies. Check out www.cncheads.co.uk They offer a fully ported big valve head which will give 301bhp on carbs at 8000rpm or 331bhp at 10,000 rpm!!. Thats still 2 liter as well. Apparently usig a stroker crank and bored out to 2.4 L you can get another 20bhp....
Using a Milington Engineering or Cosworth all aluminium block would make it very light.
Would this be the ultimate pinto engine upgrade in a Westfield or similar???
Has anyone seen one of these engines in a westie or similar??

bigtommy79

9 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Maybe not the best / most sucessfull but maybe the coolest.
The v16 brm engine, 1.3 lites 16 cylinders, eight over head camshafts, centrifugal supercharger. depending on state of tune up to 500bhp from a 1.3 liter engine that first ran in 1949......

Sam_68

9,939 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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dinkel said:
In sound a Merc 300 SL Gullwing V8
yes Definitely unique. It's the only inline 6-cylinder V8 ever built, for a start. wink

dinkel said:
...Cosworth DFY. Never understood why that engine (mass-produced racing engine) was never used in a GT like Lotus, kitcar or Cobra.
The fact that it costs as much as whole Porsche 911 and needs a (very expensive) full rebuild at about the same intervals as you'd expect to change the oil on most high-performance engines might have something to do with it?

BB-Q

1,697 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Mr2Mike said:
annodomini2 said:
if its so good why has it had a report on BBC's watchdog?


You really take Watchdog seriously? They are the biggest bunch of ignorant aholes on the planet. They take a topic that they feel will be quite emotive to the viewers and then blow it out of all proportion.

FFS, they even had the Saxo VTS on there complaining that when one wheel was driven over a large bump/kerb etc. that one of the rear wheels often lifted off the ground. Apparently they thought this might be dangerous. Wonder if they have ever seen an average FWD car cornering hard before?

The K series is fine if properly looked after, they just don't take neglect/abuse as well as older iron block engines.
so why was Rover's last fix sent to the dealers to overcome the problem "put a freelander (MLS) gasket on and wind down the head bolts with an airgun"? The engine was never manufactured properly in the first place, which was a crying shame as the few that came out of the factory built properly were really good engines. It's just a latter day Dolomite Sprint engine in that respect- except the K series didn't win a British Design Award in 1973!

Ben Magoo

547 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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What about the Mazda rotary engines?

Wicked wizzie sound with loads of power etc.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Ben Magoo said:
What about the Mazda rotary engines?

Wicked wizzie sound with loads of power etc.
...and a stupid thirst for fuel if you use that power. I had a friend with a Series 3 RX7 who used to regularly see <10mpg in road use when he was 'pressing on'.

The RX8 still isn't much better. Have they solved the tip seal problem with the RX8, does anyone know? High mileage ones (>100K miles) must be starting to come through by now?

And the 'wicked wizzie sound' has been transformed into 'washing machine on spin cycle' by the latest engine management and silencing.

As an all-round engine for road use, I'd add my vote to the Alfa V6... just a pity they've never found a decent chassis to put it in. I did briefly live in hope that the stillborn Lotus M250 was going to use it. frown


Edited by Sam_68 on Sunday 23 March 19:24

Animal

5,264 posts

270 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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I'll add my vote for the BMW engine in the McLaren F1. Best-sounding car I've ever heard and a great piece of engineering too.

Love the Deltics though- here's to another morning spent on YouTube!

deetes

413 posts

235 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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The TWR Silk Cut V12 Jags that raced at Le Mans. They sounded evil espescially on the overrun into corners, popping n banging, with blue flames coming out the zorsts.

Merlins and Griffons take a bit of beating. Blown n Injected nitro burning Hemi, 6000bhp, makes your hair stand on end, you can feel the noise.

ylee coyote

420 posts

238 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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Gazboy said:
Saab engine most tuneable? You can get 1400bhp out of the Nissan and Toyota straight 6's, not sure how long it would last though biggrin
BMW 3.2 is meant to be one of the best engines (in a car) ever, along with the macca F1 engine (which is more or less two M3 engines iirc)
Honda NSX's engine is quite sweet too.
saab engines tunable ?

600 hp on standard internals ....no fancy titanium pushrods or forged pistons or steel cranks and do 250,000 miles ....

nicest sounding... alfa v 12 formula 1 engine ....screamer or what

efficient has to be the latest F1 engines ...the airflow through them is boundary supersonic FFS !!!

Nicest looking ..

they all look good to me but the alfa v6 with all that polished trumpetry mmmmmm




Matthew-TMM

4,028 posts

239 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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Cosworth BD series

Ferrari Colombo V12

Mopar Hemi

small block Chevy

Land Rover 4 Cylinder engines from the 2.0L Diesel of 1957 to the 300Tdi, including the 2.25L and 2.5L petrols. Simple, tough, long lived.

ELAN+2

2,232 posts

234 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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If its noise then the Alfa 24V V6 would take a lot of beating
classic lump has got to be the Lotus T/C on webbers
current engine? surely one of those VAG 6 pot diesels, monster torque with frugal thirst?

That Daddy

18,988 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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annodomini2 said:
No 1 said:
...the Rover K-series.


Are you nuts!!!!!

more like one of the worst!
laughglorified door stop,innovative crap and poorly developedroflstill its small and lighthehe

Mave

8,209 posts

217 months

Thursday 27th March 2008
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Sam_68 said:
Ben Magoo said:
What about the Mazda rotary engines?

Wicked wizzie sound with loads of power etc.
...and a stupid thirst for fuel if you use that power. I had a friend with a Series 3 RX7 who used to regularly see <10mpg in road use when he was 'pressing on'.

The RX8 still isn't much better. Have they solved the tip seal problem with the RX8, does anyone know? High mileage ones (>100K miles) must be starting to come through by now?

Edited by Sam_68 on Sunday 23 March 19:24
Guess your mate's must have been badly tuned to get less than 10mpg in road use; on the track maybe, but I get 25 ish normally, maybe 20 when "pressing on".

wirralranger

141 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th March 2008
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MOPAR HEMI..........................................MSG END

Satsuma

299 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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1 merlin
2 Buick/rover 3.5l
3 ford cosworth DFV

and just for the record.................. the 1.8 k series vvc would be best used as an anchor in a marina. (not a morris)

That Daddy

18,988 posts

223 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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ylee coyote said:
Gazboy said:
Saab engine most tuneable? You can get 1400bhp out of the Nissan and Toyota straight 6's, not sure how long it would last though biggrin
BMW 3.2 is meant to be one of the best engines (in a car) ever, along with the macca F1 engine (which is more or less two M3 engines iirc)
Honda NSX's engine is quite sweet too.
saab engines tunable ?

600 hp on standard internals ....no fancy titanium pushrods or forged pistons or steel cranks and do 250,000 miles ....
250,000 miles not with 600 hp they wont,not even 150,000laughcars still look like skips too,and the vauxhall inputvomitwhy dident they stay on there own,they used to build very tough dependable cars how did they think Vauxhall could improve the brandlaughstill as i always say a car manafacturer does not get rich making reliable cars.

AJAX50

418 posts

242 months

Tuesday 1st April 2008
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The father of a friend of mine designed the Deltic. He was once on a train powered by the engine when it broke down. This very professorial man asked the conductor to take him to the engine which he then fixed. The train carried on its journey. ttr
Pigeon said:
Well said that man, two-strokes are cool!


dragstar said:
deltic?
confused


A Deltic has 3 crankshafts at the corners of a triangle, 36 cylinders and 72 pistons. It's a supercharged two-stroke diesel. The Mk 1 produced 1650bhp, then there were Mk 2 and 3 versions which more or less doubled that. It's used in locomotives and fast naval patrol boats. I'd like to make a trike with one, just for the crack.