In view of the recent fuel price hikes......
Discussion
I wondered if anyone here had actually tried to run their car on "Producer Gas". I've been reading about this, and the greenies are talking about it a lot, but I'm wondering if this is the answer for people who are just fed up with the cost of petrol....
http://freeweb.deltha.hu/zastava.in.hu/wood-gas.ht...
Pictures and/or details of engine conversions, comments, links and opinions, I'm sure, would be received with interest.
I'm looking at a cost saving of about 50% over "conventional" fuels, using coal.
http://freeweb.deltha.hu/zastava.in.hu/wood-gas.ht...
Pictures and/or details of engine conversions, comments, links and opinions, I'm sure, would be received with interest.
I'm looking at a cost saving of about 50% over "conventional" fuels, using coal.
Edited by dilbert on Monday 7th January 02:13
No it wasn't a spoof. I did expect to get some jibe from the anti greens though. It does seem that this whole thing is being adopted by the greens, although I cant figure out why.
It doesnt seem as green as petrol to me, although I have to say that doesn't bother me!
I can see that the anti greens might not like it from the perspective of the way it looks, but I see that as being the least of the potential problems. I don't think it's that impractical, and in fact it works better on a mobile platform than a startionary one, because the producer is being shaken all the time, and it prevents clinker!
It also seems pretty good for longevity. If you read the article on the site for that picture, a filling of that tub with logs gets you 90 miles range!!!
Not a spoof, but certainly a bit of a laugh. God knows what the MOT man would make of it!
It doesnt seem as green as petrol to me, although I have to say that doesn't bother me!
I can see that the anti greens might not like it from the perspective of the way it looks, but I see that as being the least of the potential problems. I don't think it's that impractical, and in fact it works better on a mobile platform than a startionary one, because the producer is being shaken all the time, and it prevents clinker!
It also seems pretty good for longevity. If you read the article on the site for that picture, a filling of that tub with logs gets you 90 miles range!!!
Not a spoof, but certainly a bit of a laugh. God knows what the MOT man would make of it!
I have a mate doing it. Crap octane, crap power output, heavy kit.
Basically a totally crap idea.
You get H2, CO, CH4, Phenols and "green oil" which is basically awful cloggy polymeric oxidisable filth.
I think it has a similar octane requirement to TVO (Tractor vapourising oil)- which was superceded by petrol or diesel for a simple reason. It combined the worst elements of both.
It takes about 15 minutes to warm up and is rather freaking megahot running. Try getting that gubbins past a policeman.
No amount of tree hugging is going to get around the fact that it is probably a better idea to ferment the tree and use the methanol in a HC engine.
Basically a totally crap idea.
You get H2, CO, CH4, Phenols and "green oil" which is basically awful cloggy polymeric oxidisable filth.
I think it has a similar octane requirement to TVO (Tractor vapourising oil)- which was superceded by petrol or diesel for a simple reason. It combined the worst elements of both.
It takes about 15 minutes to warm up and is rather freaking megahot running. Try getting that gubbins past a policeman.
No amount of tree hugging is going to get around the fact that it is probably a better idea to ferment the tree and use the methanol in a HC engine.
big welly said:
I have a mate doing it. Crap octane, crap power output, heavy kit.
Basically a totally crap idea.
You get H2, CO, CH4, Phenols and "green oil" which is basically awful cloggy polymeric oxidisable filth.
I think it has a similar octane requirement to TVO (Tractor vapourising oil)- which was superceded by petrol or diesel for a simple reason. It combined the worst elements of both.
It takes about 15 minutes to warm up and is rather freaking megahot running. Try getting that gubbins past a policeman.
No amount of tree hugging is going to get around the fact that it is probably a better idea to ferment the tree and use the methanol in a HC engine.
Possibly, but I'm not a tree hugger, perhaps that's why I'm interested in this...... Basically a totally crap idea.
You get H2, CO, CH4, Phenols and "green oil" which is basically awful cloggy polymeric oxidisable filth.
I think it has a similar octane requirement to TVO (Tractor vapourising oil)- which was superceded by petrol or diesel for a simple reason. It combined the worst elements of both.
It takes about 15 minutes to warm up and is rather freaking megahot running. Try getting that gubbins past a policeman.
No amount of tree hugging is going to get around the fact that it is probably a better idea to ferment the tree and use the methanol in a HC engine.
I've heard that the gas can be a bit tarry, but I'm thinking that the tars will condense out when the gas is cooled. That's what people are saying where I'm reading about this. I also wondered about the possibility of fuelling it on anthracite, if that would produce better quality gas (less tar, more energy).
I don't think the external temperature is that much of an issue. Most of the designs for producers I have seen, are insulated with fire cement. The weight doesn't have to be an issue. Perhaps one could use a solution like they had in that "dad's army" edition where they had a bag of gas on top of their bus!
Edited by dilbert on Tuesday 8th January 01:16
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