Getting custom intercooler made, any reccomendations?
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Anyone reccomend anyone good?
Someone has drawn up designs, just finding someone to do it. Allard came back with ~ £450 for the job which was far too much, some others don't have 50mm formers for the curved pipes out of the end tanks.
It's a ~ 50mm thick, 270mm top to bottom, and about 400mm wide, a twin-pass design, with both outlets going up near each other then through into a small cavity next to the rad into the engine bay, so it's fairly important they are curved and smooth.
Ie, Allard were to make segmented welded up bends, which can't be cheap on labour vs stock bends welded to the straight, and some places don't have 50mm formers for smooth ally bends.
Just after anyone good we can send the plans to and can give us a good competitive price. Probably 5 units initially, but perhaps lots more if the kit goes well.
Thanks for any help.
Dave
Someone has drawn up designs, just finding someone to do it. Allard came back with ~ £450 for the job which was far too much, some others don't have 50mm formers for the curved pipes out of the end tanks.
It's a ~ 50mm thick, 270mm top to bottom, and about 400mm wide, a twin-pass design, with both outlets going up near each other then through into a small cavity next to the rad into the engine bay, so it's fairly important they are curved and smooth.
Ie, Allard were to make segmented welded up bends, which can't be cheap on labour vs stock bends welded to the straight, and some places don't have 50mm formers for smooth ally bends.
Just after anyone good we can send the plans to and can give us a good competitive price. Probably 5 units initially, but perhaps lots more if the kit goes well.
Thanks for any help.
Dave
Arghhh, costs seem a bit higher than I'd liked...
I guessed that alot is not really the core, but the labour charges for all the end-tank welding on more custom items.
I guess I may have been dreaming thinking I could get a decent custom one made for around £250-£300, but hey ho
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Medium-TwinPass-Front-Mount-...
A friend has squeezed one of these in behind his bumper, so probably going to go for that, and just run 3" to 2" 90 deg bends off the ends (basically what the custom core would have been with just 2" inlets proper and the bottom one bent up towards the top inlet a bit)...
Does anyone here have any reservations with these at all at a quick glance? Just after a "eek no, because of X Y Z", I'm guessing it'll not be the best out there, but it's only for a diesel Peugeot afterall, and we can still make a 'kit' of pipes and hoses using these intercoolers. Main worry is hurting response, but my friend said pressure drop was only around 2psi at 22psi... (not such accurate gauges and that was at turbo outlet vs manifold inlet)
Dave
I guessed that alot is not really the core, but the labour charges for all the end-tank welding on more custom items.
I guess I may have been dreaming thinking I could get a decent custom one made for around £250-£300, but hey ho
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Medium-TwinPass-Front-Mount-...
A friend has squeezed one of these in behind his bumper, so probably going to go for that, and just run 3" to 2" 90 deg bends off the ends (basically what the custom core would have been with just 2" inlets proper and the bottom one bent up towards the top inlet a bit)...
Does anyone here have any reservations with these at all at a quick glance? Just after a "eek no, because of X Y Z", I'm guessing it'll not be the best out there, but it's only for a diesel Peugeot afterall, and we can still make a 'kit' of pipes and hoses using these intercoolers. Main worry is hurting response, but my friend said pressure drop was only around 2psi at 22psi... (not such accurate gauges and that was at turbo outlet vs manifold inlet)
Dave
Good point.
Hmmm, well at the 22psi or so it's flowing between 2000rpm and 3000rpm for a 2.0 4 stroke engine...
The low rpm suggest that the flow isn't THAT much. 150-225CFM for the power it is generating at those rpm ranges seems about right.
Can't seem to Google much that tells me if that is good or not. Will keep having a search around.
I guess the proof is in the pudding though. Will be doing pressure differential test and pre/post temp checks on it once I'm done.
Dave
Hmmm, well at the 22psi or so it's flowing between 2000rpm and 3000rpm for a 2.0 4 stroke engine...
The low rpm suggest that the flow isn't THAT much. 150-225CFM for the power it is generating at those rpm ranges seems about right.
Can't seem to Google much that tells me if that is good or not. Will keep having a search around.
I guess the proof is in the pudding though. Will be doing pressure differential test and pre/post temp checks on it once I'm done.
Dave
Chiner labour is relatively cheap though.
The quality is still a function outside of where it is made
But I tend to agree generally with your sentiment. But at the same time I don't believe an intercooler can cost so much to make. I'd prefer to pay a skilled Chiner man £10 an hour labour and give him a decent living, than a skilled Brit £40 an hour, to then pay A Darling for illegal wars and dole scum, in order to give him a decent living.
Dave
The quality is still a function outside of where it is made
But I tend to agree generally with your sentiment. But at the same time I don't believe an intercooler can cost so much to make. I'd prefer to pay a skilled Chiner man £10 an hour labour and give him a decent living, than a skilled Brit £40 an hour, to then pay A Darling for illegal wars and dole scum, in order to give him a decent living.
Dave
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