Superchargers - Are they really a good investment?
Discussion
ringram said:
crisisjez said:
NA doesn`t suit my daily driving style.
Ill let you do a mini review once mine is done and see whether it has the negative points you imply
I think you will be surprised at the flat torque..
I expect to be impressed Rich, guess my view`s are a little behind the times based on my other projects in the past where it was all or nothing at high revs.
Even MB has a wild delivery and thats so mild (ok old tech I Know)
Well, After having my Ro for a year im having the SC fitted tomorrow and i cant wait.
My biggest problem is getting home from Oxford where its being done and then long 3 days wait until its done.
I think this with transform the car in a big way and all the ideot focus ST owners will stop trying to race me lol
Ill let you know if it gets the WOW!!!!! factor when i get it back.
My biggest problem is getting home from Oxford where its being done and then long 3 days wait until its done.
I think this with transform the car in a big way and all the ideot focus ST owners will stop trying to race me lol
Ill let you know if it gets the WOW!!!!! factor when i get it back.
wormus said:
Nice, should still be good for 570hp with an exhaust
I hope so,
I have already fitted a full system with headers and sport cats and remap and it made 431bhp at RapidGB the at the flywheel of course.
and heres the front parts that came from CAPA.com.au before they were fitted.
Im still running the standard air filter box with a K&N filter but i did wonder if a CAI would be needed. What does everyone think?
EssexHSV said:
I have already fitted a full system with headers and sport cats and remap and it made 431bhp at RapidGB the at the flywheel of course.
Better to use rear wheel mate. Flywheel is pointless. Roger has engine dyno graphs that are miles different from extrapolated flywheel numbers from chassis dyno's so there is zero point quoting them IMO.ringram said:
EssexHSV said:
I have already fitted a full system with headers and sport cats and remap and it made 431bhp at RapidGB the at the flywheel of course.
Better to use rear wheel mate. Flywheel is pointless. Roger has engine dyno graphs that are miles different from extrapolated flywheel numbers from chassis dyno's so there is zero point quoting them IMO.
These were the only figures i was given, but rwhp figures would be nice to see.ill let you all know what the rwhp is when shes finished
ringram said:
EssexHSV said:
I have already fitted a full system with headers and sport cats and remap and it made 431bhp at RapidGB the at the flywheel of course.
Better to use rear wheel mate. Flywheel is pointless. Roger has engine dyno graphs that are miles different from extrapolated flywheel numbers from chassis dyno's so there is zero point quoting them IMO.Can i just ask something while your all around. I got the car cleaned yesterday and got talking to a chap that recons he knows a lot about our cars!!! He said you cant put a K and N filter on a monaro because the engine would suck it in. Is this true? He also said the filter i should be asking Monkfish to fit is a something VIPER filter. Is this also true?
Please help I'm blond and very dumb
Please help I'm blond and very dumb
Bonnie and Clyde said:
Can i just ask something while your all around. I got the car cleaned yesterday and got talking to a chap that recons he knows a lot about our cars!!! He said you cant put a K and N filter on a monaro because the engine would suck it in. Is this true? He also said the filter i should be asking Monkfish to fit is a something VIPER filter. Is this also true?
Please help I'm blond and very dumb
Please help I'm blond and very dumb
Well, my K&N has been in for over a year and has done 14,000 miles and it was there when i opened the air filter box a few days ago.
But to answer your question which is best , well maybe the same ???
EssexHSV said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
Can i just ask something while your all around. I got the car cleaned yesterday and got talking to a chap that recons he knows a lot about our cars!!! He said you cant put a K and N filter on a monaro because the engine would suck it in. Is this true? He also said the filter i should be asking Monkfish to fit is a something VIPER filter. Is this also true?
Please help I'm blond and very dumb
Please help I'm blond and very dumb
Well, my K&N has been in for over a year and has done 14,000 miles and it was there when i opened the air filter box a few days ago.
But to answer your question which is best , well maybe the same ???
I thought as much. He has a vectra with viper stripes on the bonnet. Enough said
Seriously i don't know what filters Monkfish will use for my Sports Pac. Is there anything to be gained from buying more expensive filters?
Bonnie, by 'Viper' filter I think the chappie with the Vectra is referring to the Viper induction kit. Great for Calibra's and Nova's but no so good for these cars. It usually means drilling a dirty great big hole into the front of your bumper so as to run the cold air feed pipe back to the filter unit in a straight-a-line as possible. iirc it is also a sealed unit so the filter can't be cleaned so well.
Works pretty well until you get either really dry and dusty condtions or the monsoon weather we have now. I think Monkfish use K&N Panel filters with a larger hole drilled into the bottom of the air box for the pac upgrades. The WORTEC CAI (designed primarily for s/c's - still on topic here) I have now I think is a cone filter in a sealed unit. Can't say for sure as I've never opened it.
Works pretty well until you get either really dry and dusty condtions or the monsoon weather we have now. I think Monkfish use K&N Panel filters with a larger hole drilled into the bottom of the air box for the pac upgrades. The WORTEC CAI (designed primarily for s/c's - still on topic here) I have now I think is a cone filter in a sealed unit. Can't say for sure as I've never opened it.
DevilYellowCV8 said:
Bonnie, by 'Viper' filter I think the chappie with the Vectra is referring to the Viper induction kit. Great for Calibra's and Nova's but no so good for these cars. It usually means drilling a dirty great big hole into the front of your bumper so as to run the cold air feed pipe back to the filter unit in a straight-a-line as possible. iirc it is also a sealed unit so the filter can't be cleaned so well.
Works pretty well until you get either really dry and dusty condtions or the monsoon weather we have now. I think Monkfish use K&N Panel filters with a larger hole drilled into the bottom of the air box for the pac upgrades. The WORTEC CAI (designed primarily for s/c's - still on topic here) I have now I think is a cone filter in a sealed unit. Can't say for sure as I've never opened it.
Thanks for thatWorks pretty well until you get either really dry and dusty condtions or the monsoon weather we have now. I think Monkfish use K&N Panel filters with a larger hole drilled into the bottom of the air box for the pac upgrades. The WORTEC CAI (designed primarily for s/c's - still on topic here) I have now I think is a cone filter in a sealed unit. Can't say for sure as I've never opened it.
Wormus said
'you'll absolutely love the way the back tyres lose traction in the dry.'
Just think what they will do in the wet! L.o.l.
Mine's a Maggie 112. I was a bit disappointed with the top end to be honest. Plenty of low end grunt, but was told to expect in the region of 530 bhp. To be honest, would be surprised if it makes 480. I actually think that the mapping is a bit conservative. Having driven the Wortec Carbon, that is awesome, but I didn't pay anything like that sort of money. Steve (Demon Hill) took me out for a spin in his wife's Merc AMG. Mine's not as quick as that, but it's dragging around a lot more weight (I think). He also took my 14 year old lad out with the top down at major leptons - boy still hasn't fully recovered! L.o.l.
I'm running the standard clutch with no problems so far, I took the view that since mine had only done 9000 miles I would try it before just upgrading the clutch, and if it wouldn't take it then I would change it.
Mel, your man doesn't know what he's talking about. I've used a K&N for 3 years in two different 'ros - guaranteed its still there with no problems whatsoever. If you look at the K&N, their build quality is way too high to be sucked into the engine!
'you'll absolutely love the way the back tyres lose traction in the dry.'
Just think what they will do in the wet! L.o.l.
Mine's a Maggie 112. I was a bit disappointed with the top end to be honest. Plenty of low end grunt, but was told to expect in the region of 530 bhp. To be honest, would be surprised if it makes 480. I actually think that the mapping is a bit conservative. Having driven the Wortec Carbon, that is awesome, but I didn't pay anything like that sort of money. Steve (Demon Hill) took me out for a spin in his wife's Merc AMG. Mine's not as quick as that, but it's dragging around a lot more weight (I think). He also took my 14 year old lad out with the top down at major leptons - boy still hasn't fully recovered! L.o.l.
I'm running the standard clutch with no problems so far, I took the view that since mine had only done 9000 miles I would try it before just upgrading the clutch, and if it wouldn't take it then I would change it.
Mel, your man doesn't know what he's talking about. I've used a K&N for 3 years in two different 'ros - guaranteed its still there with no problems whatsoever. If you look at the K&N, their build quality is way too high to be sucked into the engine!
J. J. said:
Wormus said
'you'll absolutely love the way the back tyres lose traction in the dry.'
Just think what they will do in the wet! L.o.l.
Mine's a Maggie 112. I was a bit disappointed with the top end to be honest. Plenty of low end grunt, but was told to expect in the region of 530 bhp. To be honest, would be surprised if it makes 480. I actually think that the mapping is a bit conservative. Having driven the Wortec Carbon, that is awesome, but I didn't pay anything like that sort of money. Steve (Demon Hill) took me out for a spin in his wife's Merc AMG. Mine's not as quick as that, but it's dragging around a lot more weight (I think). He also took my 14 year old lad out with the top down at major leptons - boy still hasn't fully recovered! L.o.l.
I'm running the standard clutch with no problems so far, I took the view that since mine had only done 9000 miles I would try it before just upgrading the clutch, and if it wouldn't take it then I would change it.
Mel, your man doesn't know what he's talking about. I've used a K&N for 3 years in two different 'ros - guaranteed its still there with no problems whatsoever. If you look at the K&N, their build quality is way too high to be sucked into the engine!
'you'll absolutely love the way the back tyres lose traction in the dry.'
Just think what they will do in the wet! L.o.l.
Mine's a Maggie 112. I was a bit disappointed with the top end to be honest. Plenty of low end grunt, but was told to expect in the region of 530 bhp. To be honest, would be surprised if it makes 480. I actually think that the mapping is a bit conservative. Having driven the Wortec Carbon, that is awesome, but I didn't pay anything like that sort of money. Steve (Demon Hill) took me out for a spin in his wife's Merc AMG. Mine's not as quick as that, but it's dragging around a lot more weight (I think). He also took my 14 year old lad out with the top down at major leptons - boy still hasn't fully recovered! L.o.l.
I'm running the standard clutch with no problems so far, I took the view that since mine had only done 9000 miles I would try it before just upgrading the clutch, and if it wouldn't take it then I would change it.
Mel, your man doesn't know what he's talking about. I've used a K&N for 3 years in two different 'ros - guaranteed its still there with no problems whatsoever. If you look at the K&N, their build quality is way too high to be sucked into the engine!
I guessed that was the case. He called up a webb site to show me all this stuff he could get for the Monaro. The list of things available stopped at Omega. Not one Monaro item. He said he could have a cat back exhaust made while i wait for half of the price Monkfish charge. I think i'll stick to what i know. I only dropped by to have the car washed.
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