Vauxhall question
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towbars . As has been pointed out we can't supply one due to a) foglamp b) no internal headlamp adjustment. As part of type approval rules we had to sign off a no tow ruling ....
power. Funnily enough I have the same conversations with HSV about justifying the price for hp ....We won't be offering any power upgrades for the 330hp version , tho I hear there are a few bits out there that you'll be able to fit
I think the GM Performance parts website is up by now.
As for warranty. If your windscreen motor fails on a 400+ HP modded car then thats probably our problem. If your powertrain lunches itself thats yours. The 'discussion' areas such as brake discs , suspension parts etc etc..are more grey and I'd refer to my Aftersales ( an Lotus Carlton man ) for assistance.
Stu
towbars . As has been pointed out we can't supply one due to a) foglamp b) no internal headlamp adjustment. As part of type approval rules we had to sign off a no tow ruling ....
power. Funnily enough I have the same conversations with HSV about justifying the price for hp ....We won't be offering any power upgrades for the 330hp version , tho I hear there are a few bits out there that you'll be able to fit
I think the GM Performance parts website is up by now. As for warranty. If your windscreen motor fails on a 400+ HP modded car then thats probably our problem. If your powertrain lunches itself thats yours. The 'discussion' areas such as brake discs , suspension parts etc etc..are more grey and I'd refer to my Aftersales ( an Lotus Carlton man ) for assistance.
Stu
Hello All,
Thanks for your replies. If I am reading what Stu is saying correctly about the towing, he is saying the car will not be allowed to tow legally as Vauxhall have stated no towing. That means if I was to find a tow bar then the car would be illegal and hence void my insurance.
So unfortunately no Monaro for me, hopefully I am in the minority with this requirement. I wish you luck Stu with your new car and I hope it is a roaring success and this will open the gates for more decent V8s coming to this country, not just imported but tuned for our roads. If the monaro is a success then who knows what could come over next.
But alas I need to wait, I think I will send begging letters to Chrysler UK and they just might bring over the new Hemi Charger to the Uk, they have already expressed an interest in doing so. Maybe they are waiting to see how the monaro does.
Thanks again for all your help
Scott
Thanks for your replies. If I am reading what Stu is saying correctly about the towing, he is saying the car will not be allowed to tow legally as Vauxhall have stated no towing. That means if I was to find a tow bar then the car would be illegal and hence void my insurance.
So unfortunately no Monaro for me, hopefully I am in the minority with this requirement. I wish you luck Stu with your new car and I hope it is a roaring success and this will open the gates for more decent V8s coming to this country, not just imported but tuned for our roads. If the monaro is a success then who knows what could come over next.
But alas I need to wait, I think I will send begging letters to Chrysler UK and they just might bring over the new Hemi Charger to the Uk, they have already expressed an interest in doing so. Maybe they are waiting to see how the monaro does.
Thanks again for all your help
Scott
Hemi Charger? Do you mean the Hemi Magnum?
Seems a bit daft just for the sake of not having a headlamp adjuster. They did it for the Camaro, why not the Monaro? Surely not beyond the wit of a designer to fit two foglamps? Strange really as I would guess it would be an ideal car for towing.
There may be a new rwd Northstar Cadillac STS to come (if there isn't already - not really up on the topic)
Seems a bit daft just for the sake of not having a headlamp adjuster. They did it for the Camaro, why not the Monaro? Surely not beyond the wit of a designer to fit two foglamps? Strange really as I would guess it would be an ideal car for towing.
There may be a new rwd Northstar Cadillac STS to come (if there isn't already - not really up on the topic)
Hi,
Thats the name of the engine you are correct but what i was meaning to say was the Dodge charger is making a comeback. The new charger will have the Hemi engine in it, power will be similar to the monaro.
It looks awesome, look at this link some nice pictures of the Monar/gto as well.
www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=560
I agree that it is a major oversite to restrict a car from towing for a item which is standard on a 6K nissan Micra. Was driving home from work tonight and i noticed a small peugeot, think it was the 207, not up on small french cars but it also had the fog light in the centre of the bumper. but it also had a towbar that came from underneath with no problems.
Maybe i am in the minority, but i assume many people will want to use this car for track days and long distance touring. Unless the boot is massive then you are going to be very restricted on what you can carry, the problem will be worse 4 up.
Thats the name of the engine you are correct but what i was meaning to say was the Dodge charger is making a comeback. The new charger will have the Hemi engine in it, power will be similar to the monaro.
It looks awesome, look at this link some nice pictures of the Monar/gto as well.
www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=560
I agree that it is a major oversite to restrict a car from towing for a item which is standard on a 6K nissan Micra. Was driving home from work tonight and i noticed a small peugeot, think it was the 207, not up on small french cars but it also had the fog light in the centre of the bumper. but it also had a towbar that came from underneath with no problems.
Maybe i am in the minority, but i assume many people will want to use this car for track days and long distance touring. Unless the boot is massive then you are going to be very restricted on what you can carry, the problem will be worse 4 up.
I thought that Charger was just a concept. It's quite an old one too. Isn't it a gas hybrid too. And it has 4 doors. Have they said they'll make it?
The car I was referring to was the new Dodge Magnum 300 which is supposed to be coming to the UK in saloon and estate form and with a new Hemi engine. Looks are "different" but very American.
www.dodge.com/magnum/
The car I was referring to was the new Dodge Magnum 300 which is supposed to be coming to the UK in saloon and estate form and with a new Hemi engine. Looks are "different" but very American.
www.dodge.com/magnum/
Stu, could you advise if there was any truth in the woefully inaccurate article in The Sun last week about Vauxhall importing SS utes as well as the Monaro.
Given the accuracy of the article, im not holding out much hope!
As far as the Hemi Charger is concerned, its just a concept as LuS1fer says. There are no plans to produce it as far as i know. If i'm wrong, i want to know! Look good on the drive next to my original one.
Given the accuracy of the article, im not holding out much hope!
As far as the Hemi Charger is concerned, its just a concept as LuS1fer says. There are no plans to produce it as far as i know. If i'm wrong, i want to know! Look good on the drive next to my original one.
As far as I believe it is definitely going into production next year but how closely it follows the 1999 concept is anyone's guess. Mercedes have a large say in the new model and they want to introduce it to Europe. The car will use a Mercedes auto gearbox and Mercedes running gear. The concept picture I pointed to you was indeed a concept from 1999. The car was supposedly signed off last year due to pressure from some Mercedes chairman. The car will be 4 door as after market research they think the main buyer for the charger will be the people who remember it first time round. They concluded that they would be Late Thirties upwards and hence why it has four doors. The engine will use some new technology (well new to me) that will shut the engine down to 4 cylinders when cruising or sitting in traffic. This whole idea was so they could sell the car in Europe where petrol prices were much higher. Another delay was due to the fact that the car had to be built in right and left hand drive variants easily. According to rumours this car will eventually reach the uk as Chrysler/Mercedes are very keen to bring the dodge brand back to the uk. They are also considering a AWD version and a 2 door coupe but that’s in the future.
But remember this is only a summary of what I have picked up from the Internet. Hopefully they will get the charger right.
www.autoexpress.co.uk/?news/ae_news_story.php?id=45095
http://forums.pickuptruck.com/showflat.php?Number=330631
>> Edited by scamp on Tuesday 30th March 11:32
But remember this is only a summary of what I have picked up from the Internet. Hopefully they will get the charger right.
www.autoexpress.co.uk/?news/ae_news_story.php?id=45095
http://forums.pickuptruck.com/showflat.php?Number=330631
>> Edited by scamp on Tuesday 30th March 11:32
Another Mercedes reject then.
Ah well, one day they'll get the good stuff they're making now.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there'll never be space in my garage for any car that automaticallly cuts a good V8 down to 4 cylinders and I'm pretty certain that anyone in the market for a V8 would say the same. I think it's a corollary of the American perception that we're all desperate to save fuel in the UK because it's so expensive when what we want is a gen-yoo-ine muscle car that sucks fuel like a danged Hoover.
Let's hope Dodge don't do a hatchet job on the classic Charger name like Pontiac have done with the GTO.
Ah well, one day they'll get the good stuff they're making now.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there'll never be space in my garage for any car that automaticallly cuts a good V8 down to 4 cylinders and I'm pretty certain that anyone in the market for a V8 would say the same. I think it's a corollary of the American perception that we're all desperate to save fuel in the UK because it's so expensive when what we want is a gen-yoo-ine muscle car that sucks fuel like a danged Hoover.
Let's hope Dodge don't do a hatchet job on the classic Charger name like Pontiac have done with the GTO.
Utes.....We are looking at bringing them in BUT not until the underbody is protected. There is a remote possibility that another country could help justify a programme to 'dip' the body and then we'd bring them in. Until then I might bring a couple of Maloos over for 'promotional' purposes )
Looking way forward we believe the next generation of Holden product will all be galvanised/protected at which time the fun would begin...
Stu
) Looking way forward we believe the next generation of Holden product will all be galvanised/protected at which time the fun would begin...
Stu
sjc said:
Went into my local Vauxhall dealer on thursday to enquire about the Monaro. "The what? Nah haven't a clue mate" This in factwas the same answer given to me for every question I answered. And they expect to sell cars muppets.
Not been on the training course see !
Try getting parts for a 1986 Cavalier and then see what service is about.
Sorry sir parts is closed now.
But it's only 25 to 6.
Yes sir and it closed at 5.30.
Oh well, I need an ignition switch, because mine smokes when I turn it on, perhaps you could get me one.
Parts opens at 9.30 sir.
Look I'm 35 miles from home, I know for certain that the same switch is used in novas and astras and carltons and senators and I know that you have them in stock, please help me out and I'll be able to get home.
Who is blocking me in with an old cavalier.
That's me. It would be damgerous to start it because the ignition switch is smoking, so I'm going to wait here until parts opens and I can buy a new one, or I'm going to wait here until the RAC come. Either way you'll have to wait.
Parts is open now for you sir.
Good. Right about my vauxhall trade club discount.
I relayed said conversation to my Father in law who frequents said establishment, once every 2 years to buy a brand new Astra (and trades in his 3000 mile old one) and he said "I'll get you an appology if you like"
Anyway the monaro - it should be called the Calibra Mk2 surely ?
Hi - I'm new to this forum - first post.
I guess these questions are directed to 'Stu':
I'm very pleased to see Vauxhall selling a big coupe again. It's about time, because the last ones available must have been the Monza in the '80's, and before that the Commodore - both of which I owned and enjoyed (OK they were Opels, but you know what I mean)
I applied on-line for the brochure a week or so ago, but nothing has arrived yet - when will they be sent out? Any idea of the lead time between ordering a car, and it's delivery?
I've been looking on the Holden web sites - the CV8 looks just fine, but I'm not sure about the GTO - the front and rear spoilers are too fussy. But I really would like 380 bhp, rather than 330. Is the UK VXR model going to be a clone of the Holden GTO - i.e will it have the 'ugly' spoilers? Also, the VXR does seem to be a bit of a price hike over the CV8. What else extra will it have over the CV8?
I'm looking forward to seeing the cars and having a test drive.
>> Edited by CommodoreGS/E on Thursday 1st April 15:38
I guess these questions are directed to 'Stu':
I'm very pleased to see Vauxhall selling a big coupe again. It's about time, because the last ones available must have been the Monza in the '80's, and before that the Commodore - both of which I owned and enjoyed (OK they were Opels, but you know what I mean)
I applied on-line for the brochure a week or so ago, but nothing has arrived yet - when will they be sent out? Any idea of the lead time between ordering a car, and it's delivery?
I've been looking on the Holden web sites - the CV8 looks just fine, but I'm not sure about the GTO - the front and rear spoilers are too fussy. But I really would like 380 bhp, rather than 330. Is the UK VXR model going to be a clone of the Holden GTO - i.e will it have the 'ugly' spoilers? Also, the VXR does seem to be a bit of a price hike over the CV8. What else extra will it have over the CV8?
I'm looking forward to seeing the cars and having a test drive.
>> Edited by CommodoreGS/E on Thursday 1st April 15:38
Welcome to the forum "commodoreGS/E"
My brochure came in the post this week so they are being sent out, if you are close to one the assigned dealers it might
be worth dropping in and getting a brochure and booking the test drive!
The brochure has the same pictures as in the CV8 brochure which is on the web site www.hsvdriversclub.co.uk
The HSV GTO which will become our VXR model is made by HSV (Holden Special Vehicles) which although having
Holden in the name is a separate company. (think AMG to Mercedes)
They take the base model Monaro from holden and upgrade the engine, suspension, brakes, exhaust, then fit there own
design registered body work and add interior trim.
The HSV cars also have a different security system and all the cars are sprayed with micro dots so any stolen parts can be traced.
So for your extra £7000 there are a lot off changes.
Most of the guys on the forum drive HSV cars and can vouch for there quality (with a few exceptions!)
The standard Monaro can be made to go faster as shown in a previous post so you pay your money and take your choice.
Regards
uk hsv
My brochure came in the post this week so they are being sent out, if you are close to one the assigned dealers it might
be worth dropping in and getting a brochure and booking the test drive!
The brochure has the same pictures as in the CV8 brochure which is on the web site www.hsvdriversclub.co.uk
The HSV GTO which will become our VXR model is made by HSV (Holden Special Vehicles) which although having
Holden in the name is a separate company. (think AMG to Mercedes)
They take the base model Monaro from holden and upgrade the engine, suspension, brakes, exhaust, then fit there own
design registered body work and add interior trim.
The HSV cars also have a different security system and all the cars are sprayed with micro dots so any stolen parts can be traced.
So for your extra £7000 there are a lot off changes.
Most of the guys on the forum drive HSV cars and can vouch for there quality (with a few exceptions!)
The standard Monaro can be made to go faster as shown in a previous post so you pay your money and take your choice.
Regards
uk hsv
The brochure was waiting for me on the doormat when I got home last night! (It only covers the CV8 model though, nothing about the VXR)
I like clean body styling, and love the alloys. I'm glad they resisted the temptation to go all retro or avant-garde like the new BMW's (yuk!) A traditional old school big coupe with a chevy v8 in it - perfect!
A couple of points:-
No sunroof?
No Xenon headlamps?
I would have thought these items would be standard (or at least an option) on such a car.
The radio/cd player - a small point I know, but does it have RDS? Doesn't mention it in the brochure. It seems to be double height - is it a double 'din' size unit? (and could be removed in order to fit your own ICE)
Finally the 'no-tow' ruling. Surely they could have modified the rear bumber for uk cars by moving the fog light to the right little so that the tow hook doesn't obsure it? Also, I think it looks a bit odd positioning it in the middle of the bumper.
I think a Monaro could be my next car.
I like clean body styling, and love the alloys. I'm glad they resisted the temptation to go all retro or avant-garde like the new BMW's (yuk!) A traditional old school big coupe with a chevy v8 in it - perfect!
A couple of points:-
No sunroof?
No Xenon headlamps?
I would have thought these items would be standard (or at least an option) on such a car.
The radio/cd player - a small point I know, but does it have RDS? Doesn't mention it in the brochure. It seems to be double height - is it a double 'din' size unit? (and could be removed in order to fit your own ICE)
Finally the 'no-tow' ruling. Surely they could have modified the rear bumber for uk cars by moving the fog light to the right little so that the tow hook doesn't obsure it? Also, I think it looks a bit odd positioning it in the middle of the bumper.
I think a Monaro could be my next car.
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