Change of opinion?

[CamperVanMan]

quote:I agree about Ferrari's though and when I went with bennno to get his 456gt I had a long look round the showroom and must admit that the beauty and build quality is on another planet... shame that it's so costly to run one...

Build quality is indeed from a different planet, as one can see from their showrooms:



Would you swap your Tamora for one? I bring you one tomorrow


>> Edited by CamperVanMan on Friday 24th May 16:05

[philshort]

Its still (IMHO) not the best looking TVR ever. I was going to say its pants but I know what a flaming I'd get - maybe that's why the number of negative comments have reduced?

Oh bugger, I said it didn't I. Incoming!

[JSG]

CamperVanMan

Another name change to get to the Botthom of. Ah well, there's always thomorrow.

[ATG]

probably a dumb question ... but given the choice of a tuscan or a tamora ... isn't the latter (a) cheaper and (b) a better performance car? Why would anyone buy a tuscan now?

[bertie]

Because c)I prefer the looks of the Tuscan and I like the fact it's got better rollover protection with steel not only in the windscreen but also in the rear hoop.

[bertie]

quote:

Build quality is indeed from a different planet, as one can see from their showrooms:

Nope, can't see a thing except a box with a red x in it.

[R6CKT]

quote:
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Best I audition for the scrap heap challenge then !!!!!

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You already have..... you bought a Chimaera!!!

Only joking mate!!

Well at least it doesen't get mistaken for an MX5 HA HA !!!! Only joking as well so long as its got TVR on it.

And re "would anyone ever buy a Tuscan anymore" The Tuscan "S" is the one I would buy if I was completely comfortable with TVR engines (had a cerbie speed six before what a nightmare)drove one a couple of weeks ago close ration box and everything now what a beast if their's anything that can catch one of those things in a straight line I would like to see it, what a car.

The guy had a AP 22 racelogic thing and believe me this thing was hitting 60 in 3.8 honest secs and it certainly felt like it. if he had told me before I had been in it I would have said B**ocks but I saw it with my own two eyes and brown trousers.


>> Edited by R6CKT on Friday 24th May 17:38

[flasher]

Phil

I agree it's not the best looking TVR ever, the Griff wins that award by a mile......OK, IMO!!!

My point is that the build quality, performance, handling, aero package, roof etc. are a vast improvement. It looks very similar to my old Griff at the front and sides and the rear is very purposeful and aggressive. I like it and its grown on me like the Tuscan did.

I can live with the fact that you don't like the looks, just as you have to live with it that I don't like the Chimaera's looks. My point is that some people (and you know who you are) can't shut up about it.. I'm not forever posting the same thing about the Chimaera all the time, like one or two people do about the Tamora, and most of them haven't even been in one....it's just tedious reading the same dull comments from the same dull people.....and I'm not aiming that at you Phil...

[andyvdg]

...well what do you expect on this thread...it's bound to get a response from people that don't like the Tamora...in fact it's positively inviting it!

The Tamora is a good TVR, in the same way a Cerbera or a Tuscan are good TVRs. Different cars, different markets.

I own a Tuscan, don't want a Tamora.

If TVR only made a Tamora, would I chose a Porsche or a Tamora ?

Of course a Tamora!

I wonder how many other people would make the same choice ?

There's quite a fine line between the different models TVR make that seem enourmous to us, but infinitesimal to others. It's only when you think of the alternatives that it becomes apparent.

[philshort]

Flasher

actually ... that blue one Dicky picked up today does look rather nice. I'm not even going to qualify that this time, so maybe there is some truth to this!

To be fair, I haven't even seen a Tamora in the metal (plastic?), and I am looking forward to PH#3 for that reason if no other. 'Course it will be good to meet you all and put some faces to the names!

I just hope my baby comes back in time, its off getting a Zertec headlamp conversion at the moment.

As someone else pointed out, this thread is an open invitation to start the bickering again! Lets just keep it friendly - lets face it, there are quite a few different TVR models and we can't be expected to like them all, and we'll all have our favourites and our pet hates (I don't expect everyone to approve of the Zertec conversion to my CHIMP for example - and that emphasis was for Manek!). Despite that they are all TVR's, we are all PistonHeads, so we still have an awful lot in common!

[martvr]

quote:
to start the bickering again!

Lets just keep it friendly

- CHIMP for example - and that emphasis was for Manek!).

Hmmmm, just couldn't resist one last one though!

[manek]

Thanks!

[flasher]

Phil, think you might like it in the flesh mate...

saw a Chim with zertec lights today and thought it looked superb, can't wait to see yours mate.

Cheers

Flash

[bryanlister]

What I personally don't like is the trend towards these little round rear lights. They appear on the last Griffs, the Tamora - and now I see the Tuscan R. In the case of the latter the light cluster looked great on the development car. Now they are spoiling it. It is part of PW's signature and styling - but I feel that they could have been more inventive. They just look a bit 'kit car' accessory when TVRs have not looked 'kit car' before and I hope never do! Cars like these should have great performance, handling and looks. I just can't help but think that the lights put a full stop onto an already unique design (away from the convergence of car designs produced by CAD)and at the moment they don't quite work. The Tamora looks good from the front and sides. The rear looks purposeful with the splitter - but I would like to have the seen the alternative designs for those lights.

There. Said it. Flak jacket on.

[nubbin]

What would be your design Bryan?

[bizzbozz]

I'd agree with bryan there. the rear lights could definately do with improving. also i reckon the car should have been made a little wider. (thats only having seen one parked side by side with tuscan + chimaera)

That said, ive just ordered one

[bryanlister]

I'd go along with that last post. On the whole I would suggest a rear light cluster that is horizontally arranged rather than vertical - to give a suggestion of a car's width. This is a very subjective thing in the same context that the sills of some sports saloon cars were painted black to give the impression they were lower. Don't laugh, but look at the back of the Ford Puma - a car that still looks a bit 'top heavy' from behind. If it had a vertical light cluster it would look very weird - it has to have a horizontal configuration to make the car look wider than tall. IMHO the light arrangement on the Tuscan R development car looked fantastic at it was - a lovely bit of styling. I do get the impression that TVR have had difficulty with this side of things on all the newer cars - probably in meeting the appropriate lighting regulations for safety/visibility. Remember the Tuscan motorshow car with all the rear lights mounted either side of the rear window? It didn't make it to production. So what would I design for the new cars? Difficult to put down in words but probably slim horizontal LED clusters - leaving fogs/reversing lights low down near the splitter.
Its all hair splitting at the end of the day - I wonder if PW is already designing a Cerbera replacement???

[nubbin]

I really liked the cluster of lights on the latest Chimaera - I thought they were just right - and even better with afterburners.

[tuscan_s]

So are the Tuscan S and Tamora too wide then?