Less and less Aston Martins for sale

Less and less Aston Martins for sale

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MaverickV12

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1,084 posts

140 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I've noticed that less and less AM's are for sale on AutoTrader. I don't tend to look else where. But when I was first looking at AM's over 3 years ago, there were consistantly about 700 AM's for sale.

I've noticed that they went down to 600 about a year ago, then rattled about 500, and now it's up (or rather down) to under 450 AM's for sale and its constantly that.

There have always been about 50 DBS's for sale, but the DB9's went from about 250 for sale to about half of that now.

Significantly though are Vanquishes (Mark 1), I remember about 80 for sale all the time, this went down to 50 and now its just breaking into double figures. Vanquishes are disappearing. I know they are a classic now, but are they a future classic that will be incredibly rare .......?

I know no one gives a hoot about the Cygnate, but there are only 5 for sale now and they used to be 30 plus.

Is this trend the same for all advertisers?

Do Franchise dealers have less stock?

Are more exported?

Is this driving the cost of second hand AM's up? smile

Jon39

12,935 posts

145 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Interesting.

All I can comment on, are the main dealer pre-owned Vantages.
At present 74 V8s are listed. Two years ago, I recall there being around 80 cars, so with this model, the numbers may not have changed very much.

I would assume that most used stock initially, stays within the dealer network. I did notice yesterday, what appeared to be a V12 Vantage, for sale by an independant in Tonbridge.


Cliftonite

8,421 posts

140 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Would that not be "Fewer and fewer" Aston Martins for sale?

getmecoat


davidexige

491 posts

208 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I've noticed this too, for the most of last year there would be on average about a 140 V8 Vantages for sale on pistonheads, now the number seems to be around 80 or 90.

yvr

313 posts

148 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Once I read this I just had to check Autotrader.ca to see what's happening in my country. If your numbers seem to be down, I'm pretty sure it's not because of exports to Canada!

Here's the breakdown of our market according to Autotrader (new & used, dealer & private):

DB9 (16)
DBS (7)
Rapide (3)
V12 Vantage (1)
DB7 (7)
V8 Vantage (33)
Vanquish (1)
Vantage S (1)
Virage (4)

A total of 73 for sale in all 3.5 million square miles. No wonder I can go for months without seeing another one.

Autotrader.com in the US shows a total of 714 Astons for sale.

Gerrym11

145 posts

138 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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My perception is there are less and less V8Vs for sale. When I was looking (from December) for a 4.3 with hopefully less than 20k miles on it and with the options I wanted, there always seemed to be 4 or 5 vehicles that fitted the bill, now lucky to find one. I bought my car from Grange, Brentwood 4 weeks ago, they have had nothing in under £40k since then.

If I was looking now I would be disappointed with the amount of cars around the £35k mark.


Gerry


yeti

10,523 posts

277 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I think you might find it's just because no-one uses Autotrader anymore?

I buy and sell a lot of cars, haven't bothered with it in a decade although a few years back it would have been the only option. It's just fallen out of favour, fine for shopping cars but not for anything special.

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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yeti said:
I think you might find it's just because no-one uses Autotrader anymore?

I buy and sell a lot of cars, haven't bothered with it in a decade although a few years back it would have been the only option. It's just fallen out of favour, fine for shopping cars but not for anything special.
Really?

Absolutely everything about their financial performance indicates otherwise.

MaverickV12

Original Poster:

1,084 posts

140 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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yeti said:
I think you might find it's just because no-one uses Autotrader anymore?
I was slightly turning towards this, is Auto Trader falling out of favour, but then the following post indicates that they are not. I use AT because of the easy search filters, personnaly I have bought my cars from dealers having found them on Autotrader, so i tend to use AT.

But to have 70 AM's in Canada, 700 in USA and 450 in UK, i'd like to think our AM (as a brand) is pretty exclusive.

I've noticed Vanquish's are almost as rare as hens teeth, I'm sure if you start to look in all advertising avenues, you could start to find one you'd like/want, but looking on AT, there were 11, but if you look, one is duplicated, others are LHD, great if you are abroad, but for us UK people a LHD is not high on the agenda, and I have noticed its been for sale for almost ever ........ then a majority of them are in dealers and have been sat there for a long time.

I have noticed some high miles DB9 coming on the market, seeing the first £30,000.00 and below DB9 ..... smile

But if they are building more and more AM's and less and less (or fewer and fewer) are finding there way onto the second hand market, they must be going somewhere,

1) are people holding on to them?
2) are they going overseas?
3) something else ....... ?

Jockman

17,925 posts

162 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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MaverickV12 said:
...AM's and less and less (or fewer and fewer) are finding there way onto the second hand market...
Love it Martin... You correct one item then immediately mistake another biggrin

I've never bought AT let alone used it for buying any car I've ever had.

Btw I hope you resolved your ABS issue successfully smile

franki68

10,478 posts

223 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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yeti said:
I think you might find it's just because no-one uses Autotrader anymore?

I buy and sell a lot of cars, haven't bothered with it in a decade although a few years back it would have been the only option. It's just fallen out of favour, fine for shopping cars but not for anything special.
High end performance cars don't appear so much on there,usually more on here ,but for normal cars autotrader is still the king .

Lunablack

3,494 posts

164 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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AT is pretty crap now days....it costs a lot to list a car, and the pages are stuffed full of finance adds....

The last four cars I've sold were on PH, or eBay smile

yeti

10,523 posts

277 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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whoami said:
Really?

Absolutely everything about their financial performance indicates otherwise.
Oh, OK. In which case Aston Martins are just disapperaring. Aliens?

AT is for shopping cars. Costs the same to advertise a Ford Fiests as a Zonda, guess they're doing well on shopping cars smile

Gibberish

568 posts

145 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Pistonheads has around a third less DB9s for sale, than when I was searching 2 years ago.

The numbers appeared to decline throughout the summer of 2011.

yeti

10,523 posts

277 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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Gibberish said:
Pistonheads has around a third less DB9s for sale, than when I was searching 2 years ago.

The numbers appeared to decline throughout the summer of 2011.
Maybe people are hanging on to them, or they've been snapped up as they became so cheap they could no longer put off buying them?

Compared to a 575/599 they are incredible value yes

Astondb9man

2,036 posts

169 months

Saturday 2nd March 2013
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yeti said:
Maybe people are hanging on to them, or they've been snapped up as they became so cheap they could no longer put off buying them?

Compared to a 575/599 they are incredible value yes
If the AM pre-owned site is anything to go by, up to a year ago you might expect to see 5 or 6 pages of DB9's on offer, now its mostly 3, sometimes 4, noticably fewer. I speculated it's owners hanging on to them,,,,dunno.

theno23

865 posts

212 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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Could be lazy and blame the economy, but were getting a reasonable turnover of cars and people on here.

- Steve

kingstanding

43 posts

149 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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According to my dealer the reduction in the number of cars is due to people hanging on to them as they've become increasingly more desirable generally and because a lot of cars are being bought by Australians. Economy, exchange rate & RHD being the main factors.

franki68

10,478 posts

223 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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surely lack of new sales is the biggest factor,current owners are not buying new reg's = less used stock entering network.

MaverickV12

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1,084 posts

140 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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I can see the theory that the Aussies are taking them ......

Just looked on Auto Trader and found 11 Vanquishes, 2 are adverts, so 9, 2 are LHD, so 7 ......

7 Vanquishes for sale in the UK (well on AT anyway).

How much does it cost to trasport to Australia, is it cost effective? Or is it just the rarity of them in Aussie....?